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If Viney goes it's because he wants to leave; not because the club doesn't want him.

 

 
2 hours ago, A F said:

You mean like pushing Watts and Hogan out the door and playing Frawley forward after letting him explore his options, ensuring we could train up a new key back and still get maximum compensation, which led to Brayshaw's pick?

We've shown plenty of ruthlessness. There's a difference between being ruthless and careless with knee-jerk decision making.

Further, Zac Williams is a FA, we don't need to trade for him...

Who was the key back we trained up.

59 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Who was the key back we trained up.

We played a defensive system with players who we knew would be there the following season...

 
9 minutes ago, A F said:

We played a defensive system with players who we knew would be there the following season...

Well, you said we trained up a key back. Who was he? Even who were they if you cant as is obvious name the one who replaced Frawley.

31 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Well, you said we trained up a key back. Who was he? Even who were they if you cant as is obvious name the one who replaced Frawley.

It would have been Garland and Tom McDonald in those years.


2 hours ago, pitmaster said:

And furthermore, why would a club that chronically lacks physical presence, mongrel, bruising footballers surrender a competitive beast like Jack Viney.

I agree with G Lyon. You know what you're getting with Jack. A first round draft pick? Huh, this is supposed to be the most compromised draft for a decade. A first round pick ain't worth as much this year. And who's to say we don't end up with another Jimmy Toumpas?

Finally, the fact that a mob like Geelong is considering him is confirmation enough that we should keep him. The forwards need to connect better and play to his strengths as much as he tries to play to theirs.

Don't agree with the Geelong point.

Good clubs make poor drafting/trading decisions all the time.

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

If Viney goes it's because he wants to leave; not because the club doesn't want him.

 

I think this is what is being missed in the current discussion.

Right now, the only suggestion is that Viney's considering his options. Not that the club is shopping him around or not offering him a contract.

Yet many on here are arguing the club is making a bad decision.

On 9/11/2020 at 4:14 PM, picket fence said:

A RUTHLESS club would!! J.V for a first rounder?? Yes please!

Compensation pick would be 19. From last 2 drafts, Sam de Koning and Liam Stocker. Would you like to reconsider?

If Viney goes and we then manged to land Williams would our compensation be erased or diluted? 

 
2 hours ago, pitmaster said:

And furthermore, why would a club that chronically lacks physical presence, mongrel, bruising footballers surrender a competitive beast like Jack Viney.

I agree with G Lyon. You know what you're getting with Jack. A first round draft pick? Huh, this is supposed to be the most compromised draft for a decade. A first round pick ain't worth as much this year. And who's to say we don't end up with another Jimmy Toumpas?

Finally, the fact that a mob like Geelong is considering him is confirmation enough that we should keep him. The forwards need to connect better and play to his strengths as much as he tries to play to theirs.

We are not going to the draft with any potential first rounder though, it will be to land a readymade player who improves our balance.

Viney out and Williams in is a win-win for us.


13 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Rubbish and you know it. 

What are you talking about? And what are you even arguing?

My point was we let Frawley explore his free agency and set up our defence without him. How is that rubbish?

I'll pack his bags for him. Ridiculously overrated.

4 disposals to half time..

Having a shocker. May have made a decision and checked out.

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How many times does he have to realise he ain't the only player on the field. Gets caught constantly, never uses the first option. 

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

 

What a strange way of putting it. It's very rare a quote sounds awkward and avoidant, but he's nailed it with that one.

He's gone I'd say. Question is are we pushing him or has he made his own decision?


7 minutes ago, A F said:

What a strange way of putting it. It's very rare a quote sounds awkward and avoidant, but he's nailed it with that one.

He's gone I'd say. Question is are we pushing him or has he made his own decision?

Jack almost seemed to deliberately avoid giving it off to certain people in the game. Maybe I’m just reading too much into it! 

First play of the final quarter, season on the line, Viney tries to take on the whole world and gets pinged holding the ball as is his trademark.

12 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

Compensation pick would be 19. From last 2 drafts, Sam de Koning and Liam Stocker. Would you like to reconsider?

And Rivers was pick 32. Another like him would be a win imv.

 

It’s probably extremely harsh, but that wasn’t a finals like performance from Jack with our season on the line.

He tries out do too much and it’s often to the detriment of our team.

Wish him well in the future and hope we get something useful from the transaction 

Viney has been a great player losing captaincy was a kick in the guts. I think that has never sat well with him. To me losing him confirm a cultural problem at the club. Beyond football has given his all for the club.


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