Yep, that's a more realistic figure, ManDee.  But it also assumes that the infection rate won't keep increasing day by day.

Personally, I'd call the whole thing off but I can understand the opposite point of view and the fans thirst for some football.

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

Like Nero, the AFL fiddles whilst Rome burns. 

Really

 

3 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Thanks Binman.  As ScoMo said yesterday, ignore anything on social media putting forward 'facts'.

Take note SWYL please

Fair call. I was told he was an NRL player. 
 

Still a game of contact sport though

 

I have this horrible feeling Richmond will tonk Carlton and then the whole thing will get called off - with Richmond forever sitting atop of the 2020 AFL ladder with a % of 300. A current google ladder search has us sitting second to bottom for some reason, with Port on top (maybe because they get to play Gold Coast in the first round and Google have done some sort of AI modelling?) 

Edited March 19, 20205 yr by Skuit

4 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Yep, that's a more realistic figure, ManDee.  But it also assumes that the infection rate won't keep increasing day by day.

Personally, I'd call the whole thing off but I can understand the opposite point of view and the fans thirst for some football.

Yes I got my first figure wrong, thanks. I am interested in your opinion and why you would call off AFL matches now, as I can see no correlation between AFL matches going ahead and increased risk to society. I may be wrong, happy to be corrected.

Fear not Skuit, we're equal top of the ladder at the moment.  (For MFCSS sufferers, we're equal bottom)

Just now, Skuit said:

A current google ladder search has us sitting second to bottom for some reason, with Port on top (maybe because they get to play Gold Coast in the first round and Google have done some sort of AI modelling?) 

Scratch that. I refreshed the Google ladder and it seems to be randomised. Melbourne just moved up to 10th! Maybe this is how we can follow the footy this year if it's cancelled - just google the ladder every Sunday night until the last weekend in September.  

2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Yes I got my first figure wrong, thanks. I am interested in your opinion and why you would call off AFL matches now, as I can see no correlation between AFL matches going ahead and increased risk to society. I may be wrong, happy to be corrected.

36 players plus officials having prolonged close contact 

exactly how the virus is exchanged

1 minute ago, ManDee said:

I am interested in your opinion and why you would call off AFL matches

I'm probably influenced by all the other major sporting organisations cancelling their games and don't see why AFL would be the exception.  I guess I'm also taking a cautious approach to the whole virus scenario.  Like you, I would be happy to be proven wrong.

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

36 players plus officials having prolonged close contact 

exactly how the virus is exchanged

I guess,  that cancels out sauna's and bath houses then SWYL.   ?

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

36 players plus officials having prolonged close contact 

exactly how the virus is exchanged

I understand, but why is public transport ok? Why are schools OK? If it is as bad as some say then close the schools and public transport and public places. If any player tests positive then I fully agree shut it down.  

5 minutes ago, ManDee said:

I understand, but why is public transport ok? Why are schools OK? If it is as bad as some say then close the schools and public transport and public places. If any player tests positive then I fully agree shut it down.  

Schools should be closed down 

England is closing schools tomorrow. Kids are beginning to show up as becoming sick. 
Australia is merely slow to react. It is inevitable, but the sooner the better

This is just my opinion, but I don't see the AFL getting far beyond round 1. The rate of infection is increasing exponentially at a rate of about 20% per day with confirmed cases doubling every 3-5 days (and that is only cases that meet their criteria for testing. The total number of cases could 10, 100, or even 1000 times more).

With the rate of infection, we'll have the same as the UK this time next week, the schools will be closed (should be closed now), and probably within 2-3 weeks of that we'll be in full lockdown.

The government has no true indication of how far this virus has spread as they can't test for it as they only have a limited number of tests. 2 People at my work have come down with a severe fevor, and are told they can't be tested.

Edited March 19, 20205 yr by AshleyH30

35 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Fear not Skuit, we're equal top of the ladder at the moment.  (For MFCSS sufferers, we're equal bottom)

A pessimist sees the glass half empty, and optimist half full. But an engineer asks why the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

 

 

I'll see myself out....

22 minutes ago, AshleyH30 said:

This is just my opinion, but I don't see the AFL getting far beyond round 1. The rate of infection is increasing exponentially at a rate of about 20% per day with confirmed cases doubling every 3-5 days (and that is only cases that meet their criteria for testing. The total number of cases could 10, 100, or even 1000 times more).

With the rate of infection, we'll have the same as the UK this time next week, the schools will be closed (should be closed now), and probably within 2-3 weeks of that we'll be in full lockdown.

The government has no true indication of how far this virus has spread as they can't test for it as they only have a limited number of tests. 2 People at my work have come down with a severe fevor, and are told they can't be tested.

BBC news are predicting 20% unemployment in the UK within months. 

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

You do know that they use many more than one football at every game???

I worked as the trainer for the MFC for 10 years and did some time with the property steward and although they have multiple balls once a ball has been used the ball becomes part of the training stock so the AFL will run out of match balls and will be forced to use training stock which on wet days will get very heavy because the leather will crack allowing more moisture into the ball.

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

BBC news are predicting 20% unemployment in the UK within months. 

Won't fare much better here. Aus dollar already at 55c. Recession will not be avoided now, the government must understand that and realise playing the economy vs. health balancing game is now doomed to fail.

6 minutes ago, durango said:

I worked as the trainer for the MFC for 10 years and did some time with the property steward and although they have multiple balls once a ball has been used the ball becomes part of the training stock so the AFL will run out of match balls and will be forced to use training stock which on wet days will get very heavy because the leather will crack allowing more moisture into the ball.

Eh? Is there some two balls per customer limit that I'm not aware of?

2 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

What, Daisy, a state not honouring its commitment.?    This isn't Chyna.  Is It.?

there is a commitment in both directions. if it happened it would be the afl contractually breaking their commitment first. It's not a question of a state honouring a commitment but one of whether a contract has been breached.

major effected place is obviously tasmania  and their new confinement rules means it won't get to that stage. this leaves darwin, alice springs and i think bendigo.

20 hours ago, Seraph said:

Shorter quarters will favor less-fit clubs, bad for Melbourne unfortunately.

Thought we went overs pre-season and would peter out too early (Rnd 16 - 20ish).  You don't think a shortened season won't benefit us?  If we get there that is....might take 34 weeks plus.

Edited March 19, 20205 yr by Rusty Nails

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23 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Eh? Is there some two balls per customer limit that I'm not aware of?

I can only speak for myself, but that's always been my quota.

56 minutes ago, AshleyH30 said:

This is just my opinion, but I don't see the AFL getting far beyond round 1. The rate of infection is increasing exponentially at a rate of about 20% per day with confirmed cases doubling every 3-5 days (and that is only cases that meet their criteria for testing. The total number of cases could 10, 100, or even 1000 times more).

With the rate of infection, we'll have the same as the UK this time next week, the schools will be closed (should be closed now), and probably within 2-3 weeks of that we'll be in full lockdown.

The government has no true indication of how far this virus has spread as they can't test for it as they only have a limited number of tests. 2 People at my work have come down with a severe fevor, and are told they can't be tested.

I'm friends with a couple in New York who are reporting the same thing. Have had mix of fever, sore throat, body aches and headahces for over a week. They otherwise feel relatively fine (except for the guy who has a fever. his wife who just has some headaches and body aches is otherwise fine). Other Aussies and Americans they have been in contact with in the past week prior to the more "stringent" measures in place now report  similar ailments. None of the them can be tested and they've tried very hard. They just don't fall into the category that can be tested.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Most likely they will be fine and recover but the numbers reported are probably not even in the same  ballpark as what the infection rate actually is.

We should be testing, testing, testing.

To bring this back on topic and relating to the tale of my friends in NYC you can be relatively fine and still pass this thing on. We all should be being a lot more careful than what I am witnessing (myself included) in everyday life. I consider myself relatively fit, not elite professional sportsmen fit but fit nonetheless and I would warned against playing a contact sport. Not sure why it's ok for the AFL.

I have to agree with Optics crowd. It send completely the wrong message to what we should be preaching to everyone in this society to stop or slow the spread.

I love that we can watch footy. We've been dreaming about 2020 since about Round 9 last year (probably since 20 mins in the 4th quarter of Round 1). I just think they are making a big mistake in what this is telling the public.

Stay safe Demonlanders.

we should be testing, testing, testing,

but there aren't enough tests.

I had a sore throat and some fatigue and what not during this week, and if i wanted to get tasted i'd have been told i'm not eligble to receive one. 

But yes it is crazy that a lot of sport is being suspended and we're seemingly happy to go for it. 

 

49 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

there is a commitment in both directions. if it happened it would be the afl contractually breaking their commitment first. It's not a question of a state honouring a commitment but one of whether a contract has been breached.

major effected place is obviously tasmania  and their new confinement rules means it won't get to that stage. this leaves darwin, alice springs and i think bendigo.

No need to take My FavouriteAlien seriously on this. He just can't let a chance go by to put the boot into China.

Edited March 19, 20205 yr by sue