Jump to content
  • Demonland Interviews

Demonland

Coronavirus & Other Sports

Recommended Posts

Judging by some of the total rubbish posted on this topic it's no wonder some of us just wipe our brows with our elbows and mutter, Oi Fu..ing Weh.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On 3/23/2020 at 6:05 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Interesting. I doubt Biden has any chance at this stage, but everything is changing so quickly 

No, But,  Biden and Sanders pushing on the healthcare ticket could do something Big.

 

Plenty of Americans are going to be sick,  or unemployed and sick,  or lose loved ones.  They might well find some empathy and sense in their hearts,  for a decent equal healthcare system  for all citizens.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Don't think you are going to win too many friends with that post.

Why would he change his “modus operandi” now?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

The sooner humanity is wiped out the better.

 

 

Lead on MacDuff!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Some doctors in the US are already successfully treating corona virus patients.  This will all be over soon.

Lets get back to work , life and to footy.   Lockdown is ridiculous.

Comedy gold!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/23/2020 at 7:14 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

US numbers are going gangbusters thanks to Dumb Donald’s inept attitude

There's word of a new treatment in the US,  to slow the Coronavirus.

 

Donald-Trump-Mouth-Wrapped-With-Duct-Tap

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, faultydet said:

We will see games again this year. The financials demand it.

Simply cannot see the AFL not playing any more games.

Bold call. No one knows how this plays out. If the virus can't be contained (which current evidence suggests is likely), there is absolutely no way there will be any AFL happening this year, no matter what 'the financials' demand.

And we'll have bigger problems than a lack of footy.  

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Bold call. No one knows how this plays out. If the virus can't be contained (which current evidence suggests is likely), there is absolutely no way there will be any AFL happening this year, no matter what 'the financials' demand.

And we'll have bigger problems than a lack of footy.  

We already have, people are NOT 😡listening. Both adults and children are out on the streets having a fun time.

The ice cream truck even came out this after noon.

People are stupid!!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Bold call. No one knows how this plays out. If the virus can't be contained (which current evidence suggests is likely), there is absolutely no way there will be any AFL happening this year, no matter what 'the financials' demand.

And we'll have bigger problems than a lack of footy.  

I'm confident we will see footy, albeit at a lightning-premiership pace.

No government will keep the country shut down for more than a few months.

  • Shocked 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, deebug said:

We already have, people are NOT 😡listening. Both adults and children are out on the streets having a fun time.

The ice cream truck even came out this after noon.

People are stupid!!!!!

Know what I find interesting 

The fact that we have all been happy to share the flu with our families for the past 200 years, with never a word about mass hibernation, even though it kills scores of vulnerable people every year, and will again this winter..

This is not the worst virus that has ever hit the world, so what changed?

 

And before you snap, I am asking a serious question, and not downplaying the need to stay off the streets right now, as I am following the current guidelines.

Edited by Grapeviney
Don't do that
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Know what I find interesting about this Chinese virus?

The fact that we have all been happy to share the flu with our families for the past 200 years, with never a word about mass hibernation, even though it kills score of vulnerable people every year, and will again this winter..

This is not the worst virus that has ever hit the world, so what changed?

 

And before you snap, I am asking a serious question, and not downplaying the need to stay off the streets right now, as I am following the current guidelines.

Huge difference...

Firstly there is a vaccine for the flu, it means people won't be infected in mass numbers and there won't be the amount of carriers.

Secondly because of the mass infections there will be a high number critically ill who will need intensive care and we don't have the number of intensive care beds to cater for these numbers. It means a lot of people will die, a hell of a lot more than from the yearly flu outbreak.

People who need critical care for other matters such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer, major accidents etc will struggle to get care because the beds are being used and the hospitals are full.

Thirdly the % of people dying from this is higher than from the flu, so again the risk is a lot of deaths.

...and finally, I repeat there is no vaccine. This is a big enough reason.

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Know what I find interesting about this Chinese virus?

The fact that we have all been happy to share the flu with our families for the past 200 years, with never a word about mass hibernation, even though it kills score of vulnerable people every year, and will again this winter..

This is not the worst virus that has ever hit the world, so what changed?

 

And before you snap, I am asking a serious question, and not downplaying the need to stay off the streets right now, as I am following the current guidelines.

There's a stack of info online explaining the reasons why CCOVI-19 is much worse than the flu. The fact that estimates of the number to die from it in Aus are 50k (best case) up to 150k (worst), should say it all.

I heard today from a nurse at RMH that they were briefed yesterday and told the current curve is nothing compared to what's coming, and the peak will not happen until about the beginning of June.

  • Shocked 1
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Know what I find interesting about this Chinese virus?

The fact that we have all been happy to share the flu with our families for the past 200 years, with never a word about mass hibernation, even though it kills scores of vulnerable people every year, and will again this winter..

This is not the worst virus that has ever hit the world, so what changed?

 

And before you snap, I am asking a serious question, and not downplaying the need to stay off the streets right now, as I am following the current guidelines.

This is new. Unknown. And it's putting a lot more people in intensive care than the flu does. Influenza mortality rate is something.like 0.1%. COVID19 is looking 10 or 20 times higher than that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks guys.

Nice to see everyone taking it as seriously as it deserves. Our seniors are counting on us.

 

Now we just need the rural Chinese to stop eating bats.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Thanks guys.

Nice to see everyone taking it as seriously as it deserves. Our seniors are counting on us.

 

Now we just need the rural Chinese to stop eating bats.

 

Apparently this is one of the great misconceptions relating to the virus. Studies are leaning towards the possibility that a bat passed a virus on to another animal (turtle or pangolin) and from there it mutated and was passed on to humans. There is no evidence that the virus can be passed on in food.

The short story is that it’s all guess work at this stage.

Edited by hardtack

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Apparently this is one of the great misconceptions relating to the virus. Studies are leaning towards the possibility that a bat passed a virus on to another animal (turtle or pangolin) and from there it mutated and was passed on to humans. There is no evidence that the virus can be passed on in food.

The short story is that it’s all guess work at this stage.

https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-warned-that-china-was-a-time-bomb-for-novel-coronavirus-outbreak-in-2007/

Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination, which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored

 

Still think we might have a problem.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

The ignore function is wonderful at times like these. 

Get used to it.

We wont see footy for 10 weeks and this is the reason why. It's natural that people will talk about it regardless of how boring it's going to get.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-warned-that-china-was-a-time-bomb-for-novel-coronavirus-outbreak-in-2007/

Coronaviruses are well known to undergo genetic recombination, which may lead to new genotypes and outbreaks. The presence of a large reservoir of SARS-CoV-like viruses in horseshoe bats, together with the culture of eating exotic mammals in southern China, is a time bomb. The possibility of the reemergence of SARS and other novel viruses from animals or laboratories and therefore the need for preparedness should not be ignored

 

Still think we might have a problem.

I don’t disagree that there is a problem.

I’m just pointing to the fact that the transmission was most likely not directly from a bat and most likely not from eating something.

I think the reference there to their eating habits, is probably directed at the wet markets and the contact between different species that aren’t usually together in the wild... viruses move between species, mutate and eventually make the jump to humans.

Something definitely needs to be done about the wet markets.

Edited by hardtack
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, hardtack said:

I don’t disagree that there is a problem.

I’m just pointing to the fact that the transmission was most likely directly from a bat and most likely not from eating something. 

From another very recent Telegraph U.K article

The animal source of Covid-19 has not yet been identified, but the original host is thought to be bats. Bats were not sold at the Wuhan market but may have infected live chickens or other animals sold there. 

So many conflicting stories about this thing.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry for the off topic stuff guys.

Maybe mods can move it?

 

I read that AFL teams can train in small groups.

Is anyone allowed outside in Melbourne? 

Here's hoping Harley Bennell isn't one of those blokes that "can't be left alone" as described by one AFL pundit yesterday.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, faultydet said:

Know what I find interesting about this Chinese virus?

The fact that we have all been happy to share the flu with our families for the past 200 years, with never a word about mass hibernation, even though it kills scores of vulnerable people every year, and will again this winter..

This is not the worst virus that has ever hit the world, so what changed?

 

And before you snap, I am asking a serious question, and not downplaying the need to stay off the streets right now, as I am following the current guidelines.

Realistically, the biggest problem with this virus that makes it worse than the regular flu is that it's more contagious.  That means that the number of people infected grows at a far faster rate.  Current estimates (last I checked) are that around 5% of people infected will need hospital care, possibly Intensive Care.  As of a few days ago we have around 2230 intensive care beds in Australia.  That means 50,000 is the magic number.  Once we get to there, people are unable to get into the care they need and they die from inability to access adequate medical care.  You will also see people being denied ICU access for other things such as Heart attacks because the spaces are all occupied with people unable to breath, thus there will be a lot of secondary fatalities not directly attributed to Corona.  The advantage of delaying measures is that it buys more time to prepare, meaning that we can create more spots for those patients and keep more of them alive. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I get the feeling that testing for this virus is becoming easier and we will see mass testing in the not too distant future.

I watch a few youtubers from China and the number of"nucleic acid tests" they are doing to monitor new outbreaks is phenomenal.

So would you agree to a regime that requires testing say every seven days (it's a swab stuck down the back of your throat) and in return you get a card that says you can go out and about. As I understand this is stage 2... you still have to go through the lock down process to slow the existing contagion and then you gradually let people out under the testing regime.

I left Australia on 19 January which was the weekend that the story really broke but it's now just over two months later and China is coming out the other side. (Mind you if they are lying we are in trouble). Just seems that in Oz we are more into panic than dealing with the central issue and getting a path to the other side.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Doctors are trialing an old tuberculosis vaccine which may help minimise the virus. Anyone that’s been around a long time likely has had one of these. https://www.theage.com.au/national/tuberculosis-vaccine-could-help-protect-health-workers-from-covid-19-20200326-p54e7h.html

Edited by america de cali

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    SOCIAL DISTANCING by George on the Outer

    It was good to see the MFC players practicing the directives about social distancing at the game against West Coast.  Pity was that they continued to do so after the first bounce of the ball, as they allowed numerous WCE players run around un-hindered, with not a Melbourne player within 1.5 metres of them! They then found themselves looking at nearly a 5 goal deficit at the first break, which was to be essentially the final margin for the game. It is difficult to judge exactly what is going

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    BEST IN SHOW by Whispering Jack

    I am writing this knowing that the AFL has deemed that the opening round of competition will proceed but fully believing that it should not.  The world is going through cataclysmic change as a result of the overwhelming spread of the Covid-19 virus and I agree that a distraction like sport would be good for the public. However, while the physical threat to the population is bad enough, there are other  issues to be addressed including the mental health of the community and the effects on th

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    TASSIE DEVILS by Van Demon

    If you were looking for something new from the Demons that wasn’t there last year, you didn’t have to look further than the perfectly trimmed grass surface of UTAS Stadium last night as the team steamrolled the Hawks to record a comprehensive 32-point victory to complete their Marsh Community Series commitments for 2020. One new thing was the fact that for the second Marsh game in a row, the team finished full of running and they dominated the second half without the presence or the dominan

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SOUTH OF THE BORDER by Paddy Gosch

    The Demons will go into their final Marsh Series match with a strong lineup against the Hawks in Tasmania. Both Max Gawn and Steven May, who were recovering from injuries in first Marsh Series match, have both been named. It is unclear whether Max will be on restricted minutes and will likely get breaks in the ruck with Sam Weideman and rookie Luke Jackson getting their turns in the middle. Angus Brayshaw will be getting his first taste of competitive football despite playing in last week’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    KANGAROO CAUGHT by Whispering Jack

    There was a fair amount of debate in our area as to whether the game warranted a full blown match report because it was felt that it was really an elevated version of a training session with match simulation but against a team in opposition colours. Although notionally the stronger side, North seemed to be using the occasion for the purpose of working on aspects of their game plan, one of the features of which seemed to be based on taking the longest possible route out of defence and good luck w

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    JUST AN ABERRATION by Whispering Jack

    Melbourne unveiled its top recruits with new fitness boss Darren Burgess and mid-sized bull Christian Petracca sharing top billing in the team’s Marsh Community Series opener in front of 3,095 football starved fans at Casey Fields and thousands of others watching on screens of various shapes and sizes.  What they saw was a different Melbourne to the one that failed to run out its JLT Series games last year and then crashed in a heap early in the season proper with performances lacking the z

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 4

    CROWDOWN by Paddy Gosch

    The Demons open their 2020 season account with a "home" game against the Adelaide Crows at Casey Fields. It’s been more than 5 and half agonising months for the team and supporters who are eager to atone for the disappointing 2019 season which saw the Dees go from Preliminary Finalist to 2nd bottom on the ladder. The preseason campaign has been a hard slog with the addition of respected High Performance Manager Darren Burgess. We caught a glimpse of the gut busting sessions in the Melbourne

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE YEAR THE SKY FELL by The Oracle

    After a number of years of linear movement up the ladder, the Melbourne Football Club unexpectedly went into serious decline in 2019, slumping from fourth to 17th in a season that coach Simon Goodwin described “a complete wipe-out”. Those around the club who tried to analyse the apocalyptic events that unfolded during the year were hard pressed to find a single reason for the debacle but the most plausible explanation was that the club’s troubles stemmed from a lack of fitness and injuries that

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    BACK IN STYLE by Whispering Jack

    From the moment when the Elton John character in the movie “Rocketman” burst into its opening scene dressed as a flamboyant demon on his way to an addiction rehabilitation session, the game was on. Here was yet another film about a person gifted with a meteoric rise to stardom finding coke, booze and a hedonistic lifestyle that led directly to a destructive crash into the abyss. Ultimately, these stories end in total disaster (“A Star is Born”, “Bohemian Rhapsody”, “Judy”) but this one resulted

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2019

    PART ONE - OVERTURE  I have a disclaimer at the outset. I’m not a fan of the races - be they horses or motors of any kind. Once the final siren sounds on the football season, I find the month or so that follows and corresponds roughly with the Spring Racing Carnival to be the most boring time of the year for sports fans. You turn on the radio and you’re confronted by the monotonous drone of a self-proclaimed racing expert or by the nasally twang of an ex-jockey banging on about the equine p

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 8

    CHANGES 2019 by The Oracle

    PART 1 - IT’S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THIS TIME This year’s free agency, trade and draft period will see the usual drama and upheaval as the AFL’s 18 clubs seek to better their lists in order to challenge for finals and possibly premiership honours. Long before the final siren sounded on the season just over a week ago, the maneuvering was under way with player agents and clubs discussing possible player movements and in some cases, deals had already been done.  Yesterday, the r

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 2

    HOW FAR SOUTH? by George on the Outer

    It was appropriate that Melbourne was playing its last game of season 2019 in Hobart.  After all, how much further south could the team go? And much as it has done in many of the previous 22 games, the side managed to extract a loss from a winning position by simply giving the ball back to the opposition time and time again. In fact, they gave it back to the opposition to the tune of 53 points from turnovers while, by way of contrast North Melbourne contributed  only 17 points to their oppo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

×
×
  • Create New...