3 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Think J F Kennedy & NASA.!    To the Moon & back.

They did that... We can do it, our dream ! 

All it takes is for us all,  to get in behind the dream,  and put our shoulders to the effort.

 

I love that the only comment on the thrread linking the MFC Strategic Plan to NASA and the moon came from someone calling himself My Favourite Martian. Well done, MFM.

1 minute ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I love that the only comment on the thrread linking the MFC Strategic Plan to NASA and the moon came from someone calling himself My Favourite Martian. Well done, MFM.

is this the time to bring up godwin's law and mention hitler and autobahns?

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Surely you are not suggestion that if someone says something negative on here it affects the way the team plays or the board plans!

 

politics 'od'.  

'The mood of the collective',  can push an idea forward,  or can make 'nervous-nelly',  'the director',  move  in her swiveling chair,  and rebuff said 'home base plans'.

Forgive me if i seem cynical,  regarding people in elected positions of power.

 

Courageous Cats are spread to thinly these days in positions of power.   And sadly the few that are, are on the wrong/right side of the political spectrum,  trying to make wealth instead of health, and well-being.

11 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I love that the only comment on the thrread linking the MFC Strategic Plan to NASA and the moon came from someone calling himself My Favourite Martian. Well done, MFM.

Ours is as big a ask as was kennedy's for the then USA.  They had the Russians breathing down their necks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VFL/AFL_premiers#Premierships_by_club

Well, our Russians and Chinese and Indians and Dawks have all left us behind,  and the Tiges are breathing hot breath down our backs. Licking their feline lips, readying to deevour us.

27 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

is this the time to bring up godwin's law and mention hitler and autobahns?

you mean

him la dc.?

59 minutes ago, Demonland said:

The Demons were right to challenge themselves with their four-season plan, but the acid is mainly on the coaches and football staff, writes Jake Niall.

Demon targets pile extra pressure on coach Simon Goodwin

Good article 

The Club has finally got tough on itself

Winning is the key to everything 

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Good article 

The Club has finally got tough on itself

Winning is the key to everything 

Sure is SWYL. Win consistently and most of the other plans tend to fall into place. 

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Sure is SWYL. Win consistently and most of the other plans tend to fall into place. 

Absolutely if we can start winning consistently 16-17 games per year thus making top 4 reguliarly, The State Goverment will make sure we have a 21st Century Training Facility near to the MCG. 

Winning fills stadiums. Tourists go to a game at The MCG, so i want that Game to be a Melbourne game

It’s what Bartlett first said when he took over

4 hours ago, chookrat said:

I question how much influence the East Melbourne residents really have in this. Surely any local or state government would laugh at them, like they do the rest of us 

A few influential figures involved in those groups, with political and media klout. Lots of "old money" in East Melbourne with influence in the Yarra and Melbourne councils. I lived there for 5 years and saw it first hand. There's a reason why the suburb -- on the doorstep of the CBD to one side, and junkie ice heaven in Abbottsford to another -- is enclosed in its own elite bubble with no crime or over development. Unless you're developing apartments that service a very high class buyer, you're not building anything in East Melbourne or Jolimont. You also have the chardonnay sipping socialists like Stephen Jolly who thumb their nose at sports and private enterprise and would like the streets for weeks should anything further infringe on Yarra Park. I was at a council meeting when they were pushing hard to ban cars from the park, citing "irreversible" damage to the park. Mind you cars have been parking there for half a century and it's still one of the greener parks in the city.

50 minutes ago, praha said:

A few influential figures involved in those groups, with political and media klout. Lots of "old money" in East Melbourne with influence in the Yarra and Melbourne councils. I lived there for 5 years and saw it first hand. There's a reason why the suburb -- on the doorstep of the CBD to one side, and junkie ice heaven in Abbottsford to another -- is enclosed in its own elite bubble with no crime or over development. Unless you're developing apartments that service a very high class buyer, you're not building anything in East Melbourne or Jolimont. You also have the chardonnay sipping socialists like Stephen Jolly who thumb their nose at sports and private enterprise and would like the streets for weeks should anything further infringe on Yarra Park. I was at a council meeting when they were pushing hard to ban cars from the park, citing "irreversible" damage to the park. Mind you cars have been parking there for half a century and it's still one of the greener parks in the city.

Never let the truth get in the road of a góod story Praha.

This is exactly what a club that has been starved of success needs ?

Just as he played football with a dashing abandon, Melbourne CEO Gary Pert sets no limits when predicting on-field success.

Melbourne throwing caution out the window with ambitious flag call

I think the 4 year horizon with finals each year and a flag is very reasonable looking at our list age profile. 

I've tried to make a graphic representation below of the age of players at the start of the 2020 season. I used 5 characters per player name so it works like a graph (yes I know it's not exact because it's not a mono-spaced font).  I have also bolded (who I believe) are locked in best 22.

I think this data shows that we've definitely entered the window now and the current group has 4 years to deliver.

Nev is the only lock who is guaranteed to be gone.  The next set of Melksham, Gawn, TMac and May have 3-4 good years left - at the start of year 4 none will be older than 31. We've got an absolutely fat line now at 24 that is going to move through to 27 across this period. It's also reasonable to expect that some best 22 locks will emerge from the 18-21 set e.g. Petty, Jackson, Kozzie.

32|Jones
31|
30|Jetta,Hibbo
29|Brown
28|Melks,Gawn-,May--,VdB--
27|TMac-,Benne
26|Tomli,Hanna
25|Viney,JWagn,
24|Salem,Harme,Petra,Brays,Langd,Lever,Hore-,OMac-,Hunt-,Preus,Kolod,Neal-,Lockh,Smith
23|Frits
22|Olive,CWag-,Weide
21|Baker
20|Petty,Sparg,Chand
19|Niets,Bedfo,Bradt,Sparr,Dunkl,Jordo
18|Jacks,Picke,River

Data source: https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2020&sby=15

Edited February 19, 20205 yr by Fifty-5

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

I think the 4 year horizon with finals each year and a flag is very reasonable looking at our list age profile. 

I've tried to make a graphic representation below of the age of players at the start of the 2020 season. I used 5 characters per player name so it works like a graph (yes I know it's not exact because it's not a mono-spaced font).  I have also bolded (who I believe) are locked in best 22.

I think this data shows that we've definitely entered the window now and the current group has 4 years to deliver.

Nev is the only lock who is guaranteed to be gone.  The next set of Melksham, Gawn, TMac and May have 3-4 good years left - at the start of year 4 none will be older than 31. We've got an absolutely fat line now at 24 that is going to move through to 27 across this period. It's also reasonable to expect that some best 22 locks will emerge from the 18-21 set e.g. Petty, Jackson, Kozzie.

32|Jones
31|
30|Jetta,Hibbo
29|Brown
28|Melks,Gawn-,May--,VdB--
27|TMac-,Benne
26|Tomli,Hanna
25|Viney,JWagn,
24|Salem,Harme,Petra,Brays,Langd,Lever,Hore-,OMac-,Hunt-,Preus,Kolod,Neal-,Lockh,Smith
23|Frits
22|Olive,CWag-,Weide
21|Baker
20|Petty,Sparg,Chand
19|Niets,Bedfo,Bradt,Sparr,Dunkl,Jordo
18|Jacks,Picke,River

Data source: https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2020&sby=15

Hi55.

Please,  would you mind progressing this current graph, with the names, 3 years on.?

On 2/17/2020 at 11:49 PM, Mach5 said:

I’d love some detail on how the club plans to achieve these lofty targets.

At the moment I have no confidence in them getting even close, based on what I know they think will get them there.

Just more fluff sadly.

Ok mister negative, the club just should know it's place and set a low target for success. That way they can't disappoint people like you 

On 2/17/2020 at 11:49 PM, Mach5 said:

I’d love some detail on how the club plans to achieve these lofty targets.

At the moment I have no confidence in them getting even close, based on what I know they think will get them there.

Just more fluff sadly.

We all heard you the first time. I am starting to realize where all the fluff is coming from.

Edited February 19, 20205 yr by drysdale demon
more detail

46 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Hi55.

Please,  would you mind progressing this current graph, with the names, 3 years on.?

notsureifserious?

• just add 3 to the age at the start of each line.
• delist any of the non bolded players you definitely don't rate
• bold Petty, Jackson and Pickett, some love Jordon too but all are early calls
• who knows who else we might add via trade, FA and draft 

Edited February 19, 20205 yr by Fifty-5

On 2/18/2020 at 2:17 PM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

interesting that we're continuing to invest time and resources into casey; at least from a "will continue to develop Casey Fields as our secondary high-performance facility. We will play our AFLW, VFLW and VFL home games as well as an AFL pre-season game at Casey Fields" standpoint

i have no idea what the facility is like out there now - i've been out there i reckon three times in the last seven years and it's just way too far away for me to be that interested in going out there, plus parking was a nightmare

i'm told that signing the 30-year agreement with the city of casey was done by cameron schwab and paul gardiner?

here's a tangential case study on the tigers leaving their green site of craigieburn behind: https://home.id.com.au/case-studies/richmond-football-club/

i wonder how much benefit we get out of the casey alignment other than monetarily from the city of casey - as a matter of interest, did schwab / gardiner do the deal with the corrupt council that is apparently in place there now?

The way global warming is melting the  ice caps Melbourne City might be underwater Casey will be a Harbour City

23 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Good article 

The Club has finally got tough on itself

Winning is the key to everything 

It is that simple, shush don't tell all those  that say where's the plan, to achieve those goals, winning solves  everything. You like being under pressure how come you stayed at the ABC no ratings pressure there

16 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

. You like being under pressure how come you stayed at the ABC no ratings pressure there

Wow. You have really have no idea. I made most of my salary doing Nightshift and overtime

So keep your pathetic insults to yourself 

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Wow. You have really have no idea. I made most of my salary doing Nightshift and overtime

So keep your pathetic insults to yourself 

is that why you're a grumpy old man, not enough sleep. wasn't an insult just joking. Even though the ABC has no advertising I know if shows don't rate they get cancelled.

Four year wriggle room for Pert

On 2/17/2020 at 7:40 PM, Engorged Onion said:

By going on the MFC website you can access the plan. Here is a snippet.

A great introduction.

I look forward to consuming the greater detail.

A problem we had in the past that we would declare a 3,5,7 year strategy and abandon them half way through.

I hope there is enough content to ensure we can progress to meet and exceed the outlined strategy achievements.

On 2/17/2020 at 7:40 PM, Engorged Onion said:

By going on the MFC website you can access the plan. Here is a snippet.

Is this it? It's not a joke question.

2 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

is that why you're a grumpy old man, not enough sleep. wasn't an insult just joking. Even though the ABC has no advertising I know if shows don't rate they get cancelled.

People always shitcan the ABC, but when the fires ? were burning we were the only source right there 24/7

Don’t forget that

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Is this it? It's not a joke question.

There's a pdf you can download.. it gives a bit more detail.

I noticed we didn't call it a five year plan....nothing resembling socialism on our Board !