The Breaking of Nathan Jones

[drysdale demon 4,837]

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Replays give you more close ups and different angles. His best shot over the last 2 years hasn’t been great. Many on here will call that harsh, but the top sides set a standard we have to get to

You have to know a bit about performing at a high level in in any particular sport to know what I mean.

[Gouga 570]

The MFC and AFL communities are soft on jones because he is perceived to be "unlucky" to have ended up at melbourne. People forget he has been extremely well paid, probably overs, for many years. Captained a club without a lot of leadership. He was never asked and still doesn't work defensively and for years only worried about his own game. Don't get me wrong, i like jones a lot and wish him well this year but if we are going to be successful we need to lift the standards we demand and that includes jones. He performs he plays. He repeats 2019 he plays it out at casey. 

Edited February 9, 2020 by Gouga

[Beetle 4,719]

Chunk is the Robbie Flower minus the sublime skill, of our era. He deserves everything that comes his way for his loyalty and commitment to the club. This bloke has seen the worst of the worst as far as an AFL football club can go yet has stuck fat. He deserves a medal. Not sure what medal...but it should be gold.

He may well be cooked...but I thank you Jonesy from the bottom of my heart.

[Sir Why You Little 37,394]

12 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

You have to know a bit about performing at a high level in in any particular sport to know what I mean.

I know enough about performing at a high level. It’s not easy, but many do it well. 
The MFC hasn’t been able to consistently hold that level. That is the core problem. 

[dworship 3,343]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I know enough about performing at a high level. It’s not easy, but many do it well. 
The MFC hasn’t been able to consistently hold that level. That is the core problem. 

Gee that wasn't in the resume.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,801]

1 hour ago, Beetle said:

Chunk is the Robbie Flower minus the sublime skill, of our era. He deserves everything that comes his way for his loyalty and commitment to the club. This bloke has seen the worst of the worst as far as an AFL football club can go yet has stuck fat. He deserves a medal. Not sure what medal...but it should be gold.

He may well be cooked...but I thank you Jonesy from the bottom of my heart.

Well said Beetle, If he plays his roll in the side he's there on merit, can't ask for much more than that.

 

[dworship 3,343]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Replays give you more close ups and different angles. His best shot over the last 2 years hasn’t been great. Many on here will call that harsh, but the top sides set a standard we have to get to

What the mk2 ?

[Sir Why You Little 37,394]

2 minutes ago, dworship said:

Gee that wasn't in the resume.

You ever worked on live TV ? without any ad breaks??

[dworship 3,343]

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You ever worked on live TV ? without any ad breaks??

Wow, now I'm really impressed. This was my first reaction.

Edited February 9, 2020 by dworship

[drysdale demon 4,837]

7 hours ago, dworship said:

Wow, now I'm really impressed. This was my first reaction.

Thanks for the laugh, that was better than the reruns of mchales navy I have just been watching.

[drysdale demon 4,837]

9 hours ago, Gouga said:

The MFC and AFL communities are soft on jones because he is perceived to be "unlucky" to have ended up at melbourne.

I just threw this line into the garbage bin which is being collected today.

[PaulRB 6,435]

Jones deserves a send off similar to what the Hawks gave Crawford.

I truely hope he gets it.

 

[Damo 3,456]

Was it Jones' idea to give up the captaincy? The script makes it look that way. I wonder.

I too believe Nathan Jones should have retired.

BTW Plenty here playing the man not the ball for their opinions on this.

[Gouga 570]

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

I just threw this line into the garbage bin which is being collected 

So by that logic jones along with all his teammates all those years arn't responsible for teams performance? They were all just unlucky? 

Oh, but your the guy that knows about high performance. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

If you have a look through other forums, groups, comments sections, you'll see that Nathan Jones is the most respected player Melbourne has, and has had for a long time.  Other supporters, from the outside looking in, have witnessed him being bashed around by their clubs for a decade and have a lot of respect for him.

His best years as a footballer were our worst years as a club, and I believe that he is looked down upon as a player and has unfairly and inaccurately been labelled as purely blue collar.  He was good through the Neeld years and excellent with Roos, when Cross, Vince and Tyson came into the team.  If he was drafted by the Cats or Hawks, he'd have 3 or 4 flags.

He has dropped off in his later years, as all players do, but that shouldn't change the player that he was. 

Round 1 spot is his to lose at this stage. 

[Demon Dude 430]

id be surprised if he's not in the team r1, but I doubt he'll be in the side at the end of the year. the struggle will come for Jones when the grind sets in after a couple of months and he struggles with the pace again. just like Vince and Lewis who both went on 1 year too many. I think he should have probably bowed out last year.

[PaulRB 6,435]

I think Jone will have a resurgent year without the “weight” of the captaincy to bear. 
Have faith. 

Edited February 9, 2020 by PaulRB

[Dockett 32 1,239]

10 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

Well said Beetle, If he plays his roll in the side he's there on merit, can't ask for much more than that.

 

Agreed. What is the decision if he finishes the season on 295 games?

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Felt for him. Spent years leading us when we were awful. Got a taste of success only to have it all go to [censored] again. 
Last year broke many of us. Imagine how much worse it would have been for the captain. 

[drysdale demon 4,837]

1 hour ago, Gouga said:

So by that logic jones along with all his teammates all those years arn't responsible for teams performance? They were all just unlucky? 

Oh, but your the guy that knows about high performance. 

Jones has performed to the best of his ability for the majority of his 15 years at the club, like all players at all clubs he has had his ups and downs during those years and like all players age will eventually catch up with him. You appear to be blaming him alone for the teams performances instead of poor coaches, poor recruiting, poor development, poor admin, poor boards for a number of his years at the club especially between 2008 and 2013.

[chook fowler 19,756]

3 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Thanks for the laugh, that was better than the reruns of mchales navy I have just been watching.

What? What? What? I could just scream.

[drysdale demon 4,837]

7 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

What? What? What? I could just scream.

Hi Captain

[Pennant St Dee 13,426]

52 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Felt for him. Spent years leading us when we were awful. Got a taste of success only to have it all go to [censored] again. 
Last year broke many of us. Imagine how much worse it would have been for the captain. 

Pretty much nailed it, I think after what he'd been through Jones felt those dark days were behind him 

[John Crow Batty 8,889]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

If you have a look through other forums, groups, comments sections, you'll see that Nathan Jones is the most respected player Melbourne has, and has had for a long time.  Other supporters, from the outside looking in, have witnessed him being bashed around by their clubs for a decade and have a lot of respect for him.

His best years as a footballer were our worst years as a club, and I believe that he is looked down upon as a player and has unfairly and inaccurately been labelled as purely blue collar.  He was good through the Neeld years and excellent with Roos, when Cross, Vince and Tyson came into the team.  If he was drafted by the Cats or Hawks, he'd have 3 or 4 flags.

He has dropped off in his later years, as all players do, but that shouldn't change the player that he was. 

Round 1 spot is his to lose at this stage. 

If other clubs supporters had true respect for Jones they would be trashing and cursing him like we and others do to the likes of Selwood, Martin, Rance, Hodge, Franklin and other players who know how to win. They would never speak of Jones like that. Jones gets soft respect because he is ineffectual and benign and they are happy to have him keep on playing forever for us.

Edited February 10, 2020 by america de cali

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

4 minutes ago, america de cali said:

If other clubs supporters had true respect for Jones they would be trashing and cursing him like we and others do to the likes of Selwood, Martin, Rance, Hodge, Franklin and other players who know how to win. They would never speak of Jones like that. Jones gets soft respect because he is ineffectual and benign and they are happy to have him keep on playing forever for us.

Not sure you understand respect if that’s how you express it...