22 hours ago, 3KZ is Football said:

If we are at this crossroad after 2 years of negotiations, then it all seems fairly flimsy to me. It wouldn’t take 12 months to build a short tunnel.

Road Construction Companies can build a short tunnel over a weekend with the right equipment.

It’s clear the MRC are not interested in having the MFC as a neighbour.

BANG, Thats the issue right there!

14 hours ago, picket fence said:

BANG, Thats the issue right there!

Correct pf. Also the racecourse track would be unusable for a considerable amount of a year. They simply don’t want the problems of creating ovals in the centre of their course. IMO heavy equipment would be needed in the creating the playing ovals. The only way to do that is to cross the racing track meaning repair work after the machinery is finished. So no racing for a considerable time. Sadly we will never IMO get a home there.

22 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Some of the “problems” seem blown out of proportion in the article.

So is this some sort of MRC leak to scupper the plan?

Are we cooked?

Yes.

22 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

On 21/02/2026 at 11:08, Fritta and Turner said:

and dog walkers are already crossing the track nearly every day

Some of the “problems” seem blown out of proportion in the article.

So is this some sort of MRC leak to scupper the plan?

Are we cooked?

Yes.

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Correct pf. Also the racecourse track would be unusable for a considerable amount of a year. They simply don’t want the problems of creating ovals in the centre of their course. IMO heavy equipment would be needed in the creating the playing ovals. The only way to do that is to cross the racing track meaning repair work after the machinery is finished. So no racing for a considerable time. Sadly we will never IMO get a home there.

Incorrect.

Trucks and machinery come through the existing tunnel to the car park at the end of Glen Eira Rd. That’s where the MRC bring their equipment through.

Also the heavy starting stalls are moved on and off the track for each race and they would do far more damage than footballers walking across one section in runners.

Constructing ovals inside the track in the the jungle area will not affect racing and the Buildings will be outside the track on land with its own access.

This is BS.

This will get done as it is the Trust not the MRC who call the shots.

Edited 15 hours ago15 hr by Redleg

On 13/02/2026 at 18:44, rjay said:

We have no cards to play if we move 'Distr'...the only cards we hold are if we stay.

If they are so interested in Gosch's let the Government push through the Caulfield deal & get it moving for us then we can shift to Waverley for the interim couple of years.

Everyone Happy...

it was one of the factors that i included in the early promotion of Fishermans Bend option.

Standard negotiating tactic.

10 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Incorrect.

Trucks and machinery come through the existing tunnel to the car park at the end of Glen Eira Rd. That’s where the MRC bring their equipment through.

Also the heavy starting stalls are moved on and off the track for each race and they would do far more damage than footballers walking across one section in runners.

Constructing ovals inside the track in the the jungle area will not affect racing and the Buildings will be outside the track on land with its own access.

This is BS.

This will get done as it is the Trust not the MRC who call the shots.

Sadly those here sufferring from MFCSS will instantly believe anything negative without checking the facts. To be fair, unless one has detailed knowledge about the operations of the racecourse, it is difficult to check the facts.

On 20/02/2026 at 14:39, sue said:

I'm no engineer, but I can't for the life of me see why construction of a tunnel would mean no racing for a year no matter how it was done.

But if true, how about an overpass - extra exercise for the players going up and down.

Sue after construction is finished you have to then replace the turf on the track. It then takes time for the surface that has been dug up to assume the character as the rest of the track. Believe me it would mean a considerable amount of time with no racing on the track. On to top of that they simply don’t want us there. End of story.

23 minutes ago, old dee said:

Sue after construction is finished you have to then replace the turf on the track. It then takes time for the surface that has been dug up to assume the character as the rest of the track. Believe me it would mean a considerable amount of time with no racing on the track. On to top of that they simply don’t want us there. End of story.

OD, there are ways of making tunnels that are not ditch & fill. But as many earlier posts state, there are other ways of getting players across the track without a tunnel. I prefer shooting players out of cannons. We'd have massive crowds at training sessions.

Now maybe your last 2 sentences are true - but all we can do from the outside is guess if that is true. And then guess whether their supposed opposition would be enough to scuttle things. But I see no point in guessing on the gloomy side at this point.

This notion of needing to close the track for a year begins with horses.

It ends with hit.

On 20/02/2026 at 14:39, sue said:

I'm no engineer, but I can't for the life of me see why construction of a tunnel would mean no racing for a year no matter how it was done.

But if true, how about an overpass - extra exercise for the players going up and down.

There is no way in hell you need to shut down for a year for a piddly [censored] tunnel.

We're not talking the bloody Metro Loop here.

Maybe a dozen sections of precast roof/walls and a poured floor.

[censored] .. 2 weeks

They dont race there all year.

Someone's peddling bu11**** bigtime

44 minutes ago, old dee said:

Sue after construction is finished you have to then replace the turf on the track. It then takes time for the surface that has been dug up to assume the character as the rest of the track. Believe me it would mean a considerable amount of time with no racing on the track. On to top of that they simply don’t want us there. End of story.

Disagree .. You'd cut and store the sods. Just like pre grown turf. That can't be the real issue.

Not wanting us there... hmm.. some certainly don't.

If the Caulfield proposal falls flat then I don't know why we couldn't embrace Casey, lock stock and barrel

There's a huge community of more than half a million people in that area and improvements to the facility could be made at a much lower cost than say, Caulfield

A stand or 2 could be built over time and do we really need the Admin close by? Why? So they can watch training?

And hang on to Gosch's for the foreseeable future

I or (at the most) 2 training sessions per week at Casey shouldn't be an issue travel wise (it's not like the travel would be at peak-hour)

15 or 16 contact hours at training (or for meetings) for the players is part time hours anyway

To my way of thinking, there's nothing wrong with Casey especially if we embrace the area

47 minutes ago, old dee said:

Sue after construction is finished you have to then replace the turf on the track. It then takes time for the surface that has been dug up to assume the character as the rest of the track. Believe me it would mean a considerable amount of time with no racing on the track. On to top of that they simply don’t want us there. End of story.

There are several methods of building a tunnel under a racetrack without disturbing the surface track.

They are commonly used and are very suitable, but if you would rather believe the BS, so be it.

Other solutions could be zip liners, helicopters, a zeppelin, air balloons, a giant slingshot, magicians to float them across, hovercrafts, witches broomsticks, gliders, army tanks running on belts, players rolling from one side of the track to the other, a huge safety net strung over the track, trained eagles to carry players, a crane with a rope to swing across the track, rocket ships and other assorted space craft, if you don’t like Sue’s idea of shooting them across from cannons.

Why can't they just put mats over the track to make a walkway for the duration of training.

Reckon horse's hooves do more damage to a track than people walking on it a few times a week.

And by Caulfield Cup day our training is over for the year so plenty of time to allow the track to heal. Movement on the track can be managed in other ways before other race meetings.

And if this is to be a community, walk the dog space how do they manage their impact on the track !!!!

The whole damage to the track and a year of non-racing seem to be 'red herrings'. Not sure why our Board is pushing so hard for a tunnel if it is a deal breaker as there are other simpler alternatives.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by Lucifers Hero

You will find that the Act calls for ramps at a certain gradient both ends to allow for disabled access.

Power and lighting.

Fire sprinklers.

Emargency phones.

Air vented in by fans.

Fire extinguishers and first aid points.

Exhaust fans to vent fumes out..

Escape hatch.

Pumps large enough to disperse flooding.

Signage and access for emergency services.

Yep, a Chunnel is a big deal taking into building codes and OH&S into account.

59 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Why can't they just put mats over the track to make a walkway for the duration of training.

Reckon horse's hooves do more damage to a track than people walking on it a few times a week.

And by Caulfield Cup day our training is over for the year so plenty of time to allow the track to heal. Movement on the track can be managed in other ways before other race meetings.

And if this is to be a community, walk the dog space how do they manage their impact on the track !!!!

The whole damage to the track and a year of non-racing seem to be 'red herrings'. Not sure why our Board is pushing so hard for a tunnel if it is a deal breaker as there are other simpler alternatives.

What if a player is injured during training and needs to leave in the cart? The cart would need to cross the track which could be more of an issue than players walking across.

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Sue after construction is finished you have to then replace the turf on the track. It then takes time for the surface that has been dug up to assume the character as the rest of the track. Believe me it would mean a considerable amount of time with no racing on the track. On to top of that they simply don’t want us there. End of story.

Yep thats it in a nutshell!

4 hours ago, sue said:

OD, there are ways of making tunnels that are not ditch & fill. But as many earlier posts state, there are other ways of getting players across the track without a tunnel. I prefer shooting players out of cannons. We'd have massive crowds at training sessions.

Now maybe your last 2 sentences are true - but all we can do from the outside is guess if that is true. And then guess whether their supposed opposition would be enough to scuttle things. But I see no point in guessing on the gloomy side at this point.

The one thing that is clear to me us that the racing club don't want us or anyone else in the middle.

4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

This notion of needing to close the track for a year begins with horses.

It ends with

hit.

Very good D, my comment of the day.

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

The one thing that is clear to me us that the racing club don't want us or anyone else in the middle.

Might be true. But maybe they are in no position to insist. Let's hope.

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

There are several methods of building a tunnel under a racetrack without disturbing the surface track.

They are commonly used and are very suitable, but if you would rather believe the BS, so be it.

Other solutions could be zip liners, helicopters, a zeppelin, air balloons, a giant slingshot, magicians to float them across, hovercrafts, witches broomsticks, gliders, army tanks running on belts, players rolling from one side of the track to the other, a huge safety net strung over the track, trained eagles to carry players, a crane with a rope to swing across the track, rocket ships and other assorted space craft, if you don’t like Sue’s idea of shooting them across from cannons.

My Leg the one thing that is very clear to me is the racing club do not want us or anyone else in the middle of their track. They are holding out till the change of government at the end of the year. IMO the current government don't really care about a conservative football club in their current broke position. They are also happy to let it drift. Time is on their side.

2 minutes ago, sue said:

Might be true. But maybe they are in no position to insist. Let's hope.

They have been stalling for a year or more. I have never seen any comment from them with even a hint of support for the idea.

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

They have been stalling for a year or more. I have never seen any comment from them with even a hint of support for the idea.

Not their land OD. I’m sure they obviously have some sway in meetings with the CRRT, but end of the day they will have the final decision, which will also include benefits to the Glen Eira community. Having a hugely upgraded public space would be a big draw card I would think.

Every thread - the same negative posters bring negative. Not sure how they find the energy.