On 06/02/2020 at 23:41, AllMyTeamsAreWank said:

This is something that really annoys me about Australian "culture". No one is allowed to seen as confidently backing their abilities or plans otherwise they are chopped straight down. Even being quietly confident is looked down on. It's also a serious issue with Australia in the business space. We really are a society of crabs sometimes. 

It's amazing the different sporting cultures in different countries, if this was the USA a video talking yourself up would hardly rate a mention.

Where's that picture of a storm in a tea cup? Needed here IMO.

  On 06/02/2020 at 13:07, Fanatique Demon said:

I recently watched all of last year's Melbourne games again. That was painful. I came away thinking that it's going to take a lot more than we're doing or have done to turn it around. Are we the only ones who recruited a couple of players from other clubs? Or took quality young players from the draft? Other clubs have done the same or better. Sure, we should be fitter this year and hopefully have fewer injuries, but other clubs won't have stood still. I really want to believe we'll perform, but we will just have to wait and see. As for the video, why reinforce failure? Because unless we do return from hell, that's all it will be doing. 

You Did what????????

Watched all last years games??

I would call that PURE UNADULTERATED TORTURE!!

  On 06/02/2020 at 05:12, pewpewpew said:

do all your talking on the footy field.

Yeah sell some hope but sell it on the [censored] footy field.

It is a concept that we have failed to grasp since 64 and until we do, i doubt we're going to make any effective inroads.

And of course the Bullies should never allowed the production of the "Year of the Dogs" at arguably one of the worst times in its history.

 

  On 07/02/2020 at 02:31, picket fence said:

You Did what????????

Watched all last years games??

I would call that PURE UNADULTERATED TORTURE!!

I found it hard enough re-watching the ones we won.

  On 07/02/2020 at 03:07, Demon Disciple said:

It is a concept that we have failed to grasp since 64 and until we do, i doubt we're going to make any effective inroads.

Despite the overall demise of good football on a consistent basis from the MFC, when - even in recent and very recent times - we have played allegedly 'above ourselves' and have been extremely competitive, leading games by margins that others would regard as comfortable on the day, we have fallen to the good grace of the green snot goblins affecting the final outcomes of those near victories and so, there is something grossly dismissive in the parcity of football talent across the field that both the public and AFL opinion cannot wear - and do not acknowledge. We are left as the chopping block for the butchering of games that we play. Watching the replays, this is a sad, time-recurrent outcome. A little sensationalism, nay, grandstanding, may well address the lowering expectations that we 'make up the numbers' for the rest of the competition wherein our scorecard never matters.

Far too many on here still believe that showing any form of confidence equates to complacency.

  On 07/02/2020 at 04:52, loges said:

Far too many on here still believe that showing any form of confidence equates to complacency.

Far from it. 
i just want see it actually occuring in front of my eyes

anyone can be confident before the event

All of our detractors are right ALL of the time.

There is no doubt about that.

We are a joke until proven otherwise on -field.

The end.

I feel sorry for people who don't wholeheartedly support a footy team, consequently i am never complacent, and always quietly confident. This year, more so............ 

Four years ago Richmond were brazenly talking the talk saying they will win 3 premierships and get 90 thousand members and copped a lot  of criticism.

We aren’t spruiking to that extent but still copping flak mainly from Cornes who no one takes seriously anyway as he always has a Bee in his bonnet about something.

For me , I just can’t wait for the season to start and all this noise to disintegrate , so we can watch the mighty Dees shut losers like Cornes up.  

Edited February 7, 20205 yr by DeeZee

Cornes also rated the May trade as the 2nd worst trade in the last 3 years, before Gibbs, Lachie Weller and Beames.

 

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/theyd-like-to-have-that-one-back-cornes-names-worst-five-trades-of-last-three-years/news-story/1c2999e89c1c4b901ea8be2b3ebd8806

Cornes is a waste of space but he's right about this Doco. There are other ways to get the word out but putting out a Doco about returning from Hell when your still in the furnace is premature and smacks of the club having to spend money that could be put to good use elsewhere. Show us results and then pat yourselves on the back.

  On 07/02/2020 at 05:51, Good Lord George said:

Cornes also rated the May trade as the 2nd worst trade in the last 3 years, before Gibbs, Lachie Weller and Beames

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/theyd-like-to-have-that-one-back-cornes-names-worst-five-trades-of-last-three-years/news-story/1c2999e89c1c4b901ea8be2b3ebd8806

It's a bit early to be labelling the May trade as the worst. Given the Jesse situation I agree with that assesment but May can still prove his worth. If he keeps getting injured then Cornes will be correct but at the moment he's missed the mark.

  On 06/02/2020 at 09:36, Sir Why You Little said:

The Club needs to get mentally tough and not jump the gun. 
“To Hell & Back” is a dangerous road right now. We haven’t come back from anywhere yet. 
I agree with Cornes 100% Just shut up and work

To Hell & Back should come out after Round 23 if we are inside the 8 and not before. 

It's all about perspective and opinion isn't it. I've thought this promotion (and that's what it is), is about the road back and not a statement that we are back. It's about how hard the Club is working at redemption. If that work is not enough and we are not redeemed at the end of the season then there will be further changes. You say "just shut up and work" but it's not the players promoting this. It is the Club and it's media department trying to show how hard the players are working at redemption.

I'm a little confused about this attitude of yours and others. Why do you come on this site if it's not to glean the positives? Would you rather hear nothing from the Club?

I can see the Media release you appear to want to write, it starts; "Nothing to see here"

  On 07/02/2020 at 07:59, dworship said:

It's all about perspective and opinion isn't it. I've thought this promotion (and that's what it is), is about the road back and not a statement that we are back. It's about how hard the Club is working at redemption. If that work is not enough and we are not redeemed at the end of the season then there will be further changes. You say "just shut up and work" but it's not the players promoting this. It is the Club and it's media department trying to show how hard the players are working at redemption.

I'm a little confused about this attitude of yours and others. Why do you come on this site if it's not to glean the positives? Would you rather hear nothing from the Club?

I can see the Media release you appear to want to write, it starts; "Nothing to see here"

Media releases like the Boys in the Gym working hard in Maroochydore are fantastic. 
a glossy documentary called “To Hell & Back” is extremely premature in my view. 
we haven’t come back from anywhere yet. 
 

maybe it’s just a bad title, but i would release it at seasons end IF we are in September action. 
then i am all for it, but not before the season starts

Edited February 7, 20205 yr by Sir Why You Little

  On 07/02/2020 at 08:06, Sir Why You Little said:

Media releases like the Boys in the Gym working hard are fantastic. 
a glossy documentary called “To Hell & Back” is extremely premature in my view. 
we haven’t come back from anywhere yet. 
 

maybe it’s just a bad title, but i would release it at seasons end IF we are in September action. 
then i am all for it, but not before the season starts

So your of the opinion that the promo is saying we are already back?

  On 07/02/2020 at 08:08, dworship said:

So your of the opinion that the promo is saying we are already back?

That’s what the title says

Titles are very important, they set the tone. 

  On 07/02/2020 at 08:17, Sir Why You Little said:

That’s what the title says

Titles are very important, they set the tone. 

As I said,  all about perception. Someone here has already made an outrageous statement that anyone who was going to buy a membership this year has already done so. They may have missed the bigger point that we need to promote the Club for our sponsors as well. So, what would be your promo this year? "Almost back", "Wait until September, we might be there"

  On 07/02/2020 at 08:35, dworship said:

As I said,  all about perception. Someone here has already made an outrageous statement that anyone who was going to buy a membership this year has already done so. They may have missed the bigger point that we need to promote the Club for our sponsors as well. So, what would be your promo this year? "Almost back", "Wait until September, we might be there"

Win Allan Jeans style. 
moment by moment. Contest by Contest

Round 1 over there

Membership sales will be fine if the players are ready to win

Not by telling how good they have been. 
we are rubbish after 2019 in the eyes of all our oponents. The only way to redemption is to beat them. 
then it is “To Hell and Back”

Edited February 7, 20205 yr by Sir Why You Little

LOL has the doco even come out yet ?

  On 07/02/2020 at 04:55, Sir Why You Little said:

Far from it. 
i just want see it actually occuring in front of my eyes

anyone can be confident before the event

Honest question: why do you pay any attention to what happens in the off season if all you want is to “see it happen in front of you“? Literally all that happens at this time of year is hope gets sold, words get said and houses get trained down.

  On 07/02/2020 at 09:10, Nasher said:

Honest question: why do you pay any attention to what happens in the off season if all you want is to “see it happen in front of you“? Literally all that happens at this time of year is hope gets sold, words get said and houses get trained down.

Nasher, we should both know better that get involved in a game of tennis with SWYL, we will end up being perplexed.

  On 07/02/2020 at 09:10, Nasher said:

Honest question: why do you pay any attention to what happens in the off season if all you want is to “see it happen in front of you“? Literally all that happens at this time of year is hope gets sold, words get said and houses get trained down.

I watch Training Videos and keep an eye on injuries 

i don’t need to see a video of how we have come back from hell. We are still there until we win consistently. 
what i am sick and tired of is hollow promises. 
be quiet, lie low and DO what needs to be done.