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2020 Contracts and List Details

Lucifers Hero
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On 11/20/2020 at 12:33 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

So am I correct in saying that Bedford, Jordan, Chandler (® A), Lockhart (® A) and Bradtke (® B) are uncontracted at present.

What is the list lodgement cut off day for them to be contracted? Today or next Friday?

Yes, they are the OOC players altho I haven't seen an mfc confirmation of M. Browns re-contracting as a rookie.

I don't know the cut off date for them to be contracted.  I would guess next Friday Nov 27 leaving a few days to nominate for the Draft which close on Nov 30.  Could be wrong.

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    1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Yes, they are the OOC players altho I haven't seen an mfc confirmation of M. Browns re-contracting as a rookie.

    I don't know the cut off date for them to be contracted.  I would guess next Friday Nov 27 leaving a few days to nominate for the Draft which close on Nov 30.  Could be wrong.

    1st list lodgement on Wednesday

     

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    On 11/20/2020 at 12:33 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

    So am I correct in saying that Bedford, Jordan, Chandler (® A), Lockhart (® A) and Bradtke (® B) are uncontracted at present.

    What is the list lodgement cut off day for them to be contracted? Today or next Friday?
     

    also worth noting Bradtke wasn't listed in an official afl.com.au website about every clubs OOC around grand final week, its been linked in here before so might not expect any formal announcement about it

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    52 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    Does that mean we will have a list 0f 43 because we only have 1 b grade rookie?

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    21 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    So am I correct in saying that Bedford, Jordan, Chandler (rA), Lockhart (rA) and Bradtke (rB) are uncontracted at present.

    What is the list lodgement cut off day for them to be contracted? Today or next Friday?

    The AFL has issued a new schedule of dates which I've posted in that thread.  The answer to your 2nd question:

    Monday 30 November
    •    List Lodgement 2
    •    Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL
    •    Final date for Primary List delistings

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    2 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    This article on who gets an AFL lifeline states that “Melbourne has re-signed a number of players it is yet to make public including Mitch Brown, Jay Lockhart, Kade Chandler and James Jordon,” and suggests that Toby Bedford is our only player currently in limbo. 

     

    so other than Bedford Is Bradke uncontracted?

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    2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    This article on who gets an AFL lifeline states that “Melbourne has re-signed a number of players it is yet to make public including Mitch Brown, Jay Lockhart, Kade Chandler and James Jordon,” and suggests that Toby Bedford is our only player currently in limbo. 

     

    There aren't two players in the entire football playing population of Australia who are better prospects than Chandler & Jordon?

    I find that absolutely extraordinary, particularly given that neither plays a role that can't be easily replaced.

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    37 minutes ago, poita said:

    There aren't two players in the entire football playing population of Australia who are better prospects than Chandler & Jordon?

    I find that absolutely extraordinary, particularly given that neither plays a role that can't be easily replaced.

    It could be the reduced sal cap and the way the AFL is implementing it. 

    Even renewing those players we have vacant spots on our playing list to add a DFA and a rookie or two (in addition to the 3 draftees we are reportedly to take).

    Perhaps the club thinks that unless we can afford a player that will be best 30 then we are no worse off keeping the players we have whose strengths and weaknesses are known.

    Edited by Lucifer's Hero

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    Where we stand: 

    35 players on the senior list (max 38) 
    3 on the Rookie A list (maximum 6) 
    1 on the Rookie B list (max 2) 

    We can have up to 44 players, we have 39, so 5 spots open - 3 senior list (3 draft picks?), and then 2 rookies. But we can just take one player in the draft and then we have hit our minimum number. 

     

    The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up by as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.  To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four-to-six Category A rookies and two Category B rookies.

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    5 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

    Where we stand: 

    35 players on the senior list (max 38) 
    3 on the Rookie A list (maximum 6) 
    1 on the Rookie B list (max 2) 

    We can have up to 44 players, we have 39, so 5 spots open - 3 senior list (3 draft picks?), and then 2 rookies. But we can just take one player in the draft and then we have hit our minimum number. 

     

    The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up by as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.  To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four-to-six Category A rookies and two Category B rookies.

    With 18, 19, 28, 50 but only 3 spaces, we may well look to upgrade our picks or swap into next year in the lead up to the draft. That being said, not using pick 50 isn't a big deal.

     

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    13 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

    Where we stand: 

    35 players on the senior list (max 38) 
    3 on the Rookie A list (maximum 6) 
    1 on the Rookie B list (max 2) 

    We can have up to 44 players, we have 39, so 5 spots open - 3 senior list (3 draft picks?), and then 2 rookies. But we can just take one player in the draft and then we have hit our minimum number. 

     

    The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up by as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.  To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four-to-six Category A rookies and two Category B rookies.

    only 1 live rookie pick assuming we re-list nietschke until KK is made inactive that is and then we will have a SSP spot available 

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    Updates:

    • No more players OOC.
    • Re-contracting of Jackson, Bedford, Jordon, Chandler, Brown
    • Well deserved promotion of Lockhart to the senior list
    • Final List sizes confirmed
    • 'Used' draft pick 89 for Lockhart promotion

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    Heading into the draft we have 35 senior players and 4 rookies (total 39) giving 3 senior and 2 rookie list spots.  3 Draftees will take us to the max allowed 38 senior players.  The 2 rookie spots can be used for a PSSP or (multiple) mid-season drafts.  And extra senior list spot can be created if we put KK onto a L-T injury list.

    At this stage it looks like we won't be adding a DFA to the senior list.  A DFA will need to come as a rookie via the PSSP.

    I feel confident there will be a draft pick change that involves pick 50 otherwise it is wasted as we don't have a list spot for it.  Reckon it will be #28 + 50 for a pick in the low 20's giving us the 3 picks at the draft.

    I will update the games played when I do the final list post drafts.  

    Edited by Lucifer's Hero

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    I think the club will be watching the State league comps closely and get a player in Mid season draft when we remove KK off the list.  Not a bad idea I'm sure there will be a number of players that will not be drafted due to the fact that no one saw them in 2020.

    Edited by drdrake

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    1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Updates:

    • No more players OOC.
    • Re-contracting of Jackson, Bedford, Jordon, Chandler, Brown
    • Well deserved promotion of Lockhart to the senior list
    • Final List sizes confirmed
    • 'Used' draft pick 89 for Lockhart promotion

    image.png.72a1bd94489cedcf84389934c47aa53e.png

    Heading into the draft we have 35 senior players and 4 rookies (total 39) giving 3 senior and 2 rookie list spots.  3 Draftees will take us to the max allowed 38 senior players.  The 2 rookie spots can be used for a PSSP or (multiple) mid-season drafts.  And extra senior list spot can be created if we put KK onto a L-T injury list.

    At this stage it looks like we won't be adding a DFA to the senior list.  A DFA will need to come as a rookie via the PSSP.

    I feel confident there will be a draft pick change that involves pick 50 otherwise it is wasted as we don't have a list spot for it.  Reckon it will be #28 + 50 for a pick in the low 20's giving us the 3 picks at the draft.

    I will update the games played when I do the final list post drafts.  

    psst, u left the ('A') status on lockhart ;)

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    2 minutes ago, Turner said:

    psst, u left the ('A') status on lockhart ;)

    Too bad...I'll change it next time :-)

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    Thanks Lucifer's Hero for the update, Very happy with the management of the list by the Dee's, put's the trust and ownership back onto our existing list and still have the ability to pick up 5 additional players to potentially strengthen the group. We have learnt from our previous experiences that the grass is not always greener....etc, etc

    Well done MFC.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    On 11/23/2020 at 2:32 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Updates:

    • No more players OOC.
    • Re-contracting of Jackson, Bedford, Jordon, Chandler, Brown
    • Well deserved promotion of Lockhart to the senior list
    • Final List sizes confirmed
    • 'Used' draft pick 89 for Lockhart promotion

    image.png.72a1bd94489cedcf84389934c47aa53e.png

    Heading into the draft we have 35 senior players and 4 rookies (total 39) giving 3 senior and 2 rookie list spots.  3 Draftees will take us to the max allowed 38 senior players.  The 2 rookie spots can be used for a PSSP or (multiple) mid-season drafts.  And extra senior list spot can be created if we put KK onto a L-T injury list.

    At this stage it looks like we won't be adding a DFA to the senior list.  A DFA will need to come as a rookie via the PSSP.

    I feel confident there will be a draft pick change that involves pick 50 otherwise it is wasted as we don't have a list spot for it.  Reckon it will be #28 + 50 for a pick in the low 20's giving us the 3 picks at the draft.

    I will update the games played when I do the final list post drafts.  

    Love your hard work LH

    So KK is off and we have another vacancy on the main list right? ie 38  34 plus 3A and1B

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    5 minutes ago, Kent said:

    Love your hard work LH

    So KK is off and we have another vacancy on the main list right? ie 38  34 plus 3A and1B

    Thank you.

    Yes.  38 on the list. 34 + 3'A' + 1'B' as you describe.

    Gives us 4 senior list vacancies and 2 Rookie vacancies.

    Chart updated for KK's retirement:

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    4 senior vacancies and 4 draft picks.  We may use pick #50, afterall.

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    4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Thank you.

    Yes.  38 on the list. 34 + 3'A' + 1'B' as you describe.

    Gives us 4 senior list vacancies and 2 Rookie vacancies.

    Chart updated for KK's retirement:

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    4 senior vacancies and 4 draft picks.  We may use pick #50, afterall.

    4 senior vacancies and 2 rookie spots.  
    bWe might draft 3 plus a DFA ... or ... as you say use 4 draft picks. 

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    5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Thank you.

    Yes.  38 on the list. 34 + 3'A' + 1'B' as you describe.

    Gives us 4 senior list vacancies and 2 Rookie vacancies.

    Chart updated for KK's retirement:

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    4 senior vacancies and 4 draft picks.  We may use pick #50, afterall.

    That or we use to sign a delisted free agent.

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    update for the news jordon is to be a rookie?

    Edited by Turner

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