Levi Casboult

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Potentially available due to an 'awkward' contract situation at Carlton.

Short version is he played enough games to trigger another year (2020) but given his form this year he's gunning for 2 years. Would be 30 when next season starts (birthday is in March), so 2 years doesn't seem crazy as far as we go.

The problem could be the trade and wage cost given his lift this year, but for the right price in both regards he could be a handy pair of hands and back up ruck for us. The attractions as far as the club goes would be his versatility and that it gives us more options to play 3 tall forwards, which seemed to be the initial plan this year.

Thoughts?

AFL trade whispers 2019: Levi Casboult wants Carlton to extend contract

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Thoughts?

Massive no from me.  I don't think we need to recruit key position players unless it's someone of high quality to play alongside T Mac.  Outside run and small forwards should be our focus.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

9 contested marks in last round.

Can mark it. Can't kick it.

Is he a better forward option than Preuss with a tank?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Thoughts?

Massive no from me.  I don't think we need to recruit key position players unless it's someone of high quality to play alongside T Mac.  Outside run and small forwards should be our focus.

Yeah fair enough, don't see why we couldn't have more than one 'focus' though? Would hope we'd be more active in the offseason than that given the year we had.

With T.Smith apparently gone, J.Smith no guarantee, Preuss a couple of preseaeons away, Keilty gone, we'd be going into next season with TMac (iffy proposition given this year), Weid (still a while off) and Petty (hardly proven) as our key forwards. I'm not saying it's our biggest priority, I agree outside run is, but it 100% is a need IMO.

 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,165]

We need match winners now, it’s not 2012-2013 anymore. It’s a no. 

[Fat Tony 5,291]

His goal kicking was much improved this year. Levi could be Earl Spalding in reverse. Is he a free agent?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

14 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We need match winners now, it’s not 2012-2013 anymore. It’s a no. 

How many "match winners" do you think we can get in 1 trade period?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

21 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Yeah fair enough, don't see why we couldn't have more than one 'focus' though? Would hope we'd be more active in the offseason than that given the year we had.

With T.Smith apparently gone, J.Smith no guarantee, Preuss a couple of preseaeons away, Keilty gone, we'd be going into next season with TMac (iffy proposition given this year), Weid (still a while off) and Petty (hardly proven) as our key forwards. I'm not saying it's our biggest priority, I agree outside run is, but it 100% is a need IMO.

 

Well we do have more than one focus - outside run through the middle of the ground and small forwards.  We've seen teams get by without much of a key forward this year at different times, so I think it's further down the list from me.  However, if someone of quality is up for grabs then I'd be all for it.  I just don't think Casboult is that player.

I think a forward line with Tom Mac, Weid and Fritsch as those marking type forwards works well, and then you have Petty waiting in the wings.  Melksham has also shown the capability to play as 'key' forward when given the chance to be one out with his opponent.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

His goal kicking was much improved this year. Levi could be Earl Spalding in reverse. Is he a free agent?

He's not. If he hadn't played 30 games in the last 2 years he would be, but because he reached that number it triggered another year on his contract.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Well we do have more than one focus - outside run through the middle of the ground and small forwards.  We've seen teams get by without much of a key forward this year at different times, so I think it's further down the list from me.  However, if someone of quality is up for grabs then I'd be all for it.  I just don't think Casboult is that player.

I think a forward line with Tom Mac, Weid and Fritsch as those marking type forwards works well, and then you have Petty waiting in the wings.  Melksham has also shown the capability to play as 'key' forward when given the chance to be one out with his opponent.

Yeah can totally understand all of that mate. Wonder if we'd look at one in the draft then? Just feel that TMac, Weid, Petty and Preuss isn't much in the way of key forward stocks.

IMO our 'quality' trading will go into the outside mids, so couldn't see us adding a gun key forward and players like Casboult and Jenkins seem the more realistic options.

[Swooper1987 3,322]

I rate this guy.  He's one of the best "down the line" marks in the comp.  Other than Gawn, since we lost Hogan we don't have anyone else who  does this role. I'd certainly look at it.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Yeah can totally understand all of that mate. Wonder if we'd look at one in the draft then? Just feel that TMac, Weid, Petty and Preuss isn't much in the way of key forward stocks.

IMO our 'quality' trading will go into the outside mids, so couldn't see us adding a gun key forward and players like Casboult and Jenkins seem the more realistic options.

Well if you look at the Top 4 right now, you'll see that their key position stocks up forward aren't a whole lot better than ours.

Geelong relies heavily on Hawkins, and gets plenty of goals from their smalls.

Brisbane has Hipwood and, to an extent, Dan McStay, but rely heavily again on Charlie Cameron and their mids to hit the scoreboard.

Richmond do have Riewoldt and Lynch, but don't have a whole lot in reserve after that.

The Pies have Mihocek and Cox, but get more of their goals from mid sized forwards like De Goey, Stephenson and Elliot.

That's a small sample size, but I think with the above talls to go with Fritta, Melksham and to a lesser extent Petracca, then we're not too bad in the tall forward stocks.  The other teams have a few but not much else after that, but are creative enough to get goals from more players than we did this year.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

Well if you look at the Top 4 right now, you'll see that their key position stocks up forward aren't a whole lot better than ours.

Geelong relies heavily on Hawkins, and gets plenty of goals from their smalls.

Brisbane has Hipwood and, to an extent, Dan McStay, but rely heavily again on Charlie Cameron and their mids to hit the scoreboard.

Richmond do have Riewoldt and Lynch, but don't have a whole lot in reserve after that.

The Pies have Mihocek and Cox, but get more of their goals from mid sized forwards like De Goey, Stephenson and Elliot.

That's a small sample size, but I think with the above talls to go with Fritta, Melksham and to a lesser extent Petracca, then we're not too bad in the tall forward stocks.  The other teams have a few but not much else after that, but are creative enough to get goals from more players than we did this year.

So if Weid and TMac get injured again, like this year, then we have Petty and Preuss as our key forwards? Not convinced by that.

The current reigning premiers have a pretty good tall forward setup.

I'm not saying we invest heavily in gun key forwards, I've already stated that a few times, I'm saying our depth in that important area is now very poor.

Surely we saw in the Sydney game how much a lack of tall forwards hurts us? And that was with all of Trac, Fritsch and Melksham playing. In that game we had 55 inside 50s, but only 11 marks inside 50, and a total of 5 goals.

[chookrat 4,268]

45 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Potentially available due to an 'awkward' contract situation at Carlton.

Short version is he played enough games to trigger another year (2020) but given his form this year he's gunning for 2 years. Would be 30 when next season starts (birthday is in March), so 2 years doesn't seem crazy as far as we go.

The problem could be the trade and wage cost given his lift this year, but for the right price in both regards he could be a handy pair of hands and back up ruck for us. The attractions as far as the club goes would be his versatility and that it gives us more options to play 3 tall forwards, which seemed to be the initial plan this year.

Thoughts?

AFL trade whispers 2019: Levi Casboult wants Carlton to extend contract

 

With Pruess developing nicely, his ruck craft is good and he will build his tank and forward craft into next season, and Gawn becoming more versatile up forward/back etc, I'd rather we stick with TMac and Weid as our key forwards and have the flexibility to swing May forward. To bring in Casboult would mean Preuss plays VFL unless there are injuries.

We desperately need pace on the wing and small forward/s who can bring pressure at ground level and kick goals.

A no for me. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Surely we saw in the Sydney game how much a lack of tall forwards hurts us? And that was with all of Trac, Fritsch and Melksham playing. In that game we had 55 inside 50s, but only 11 marks inside 50, and a total of 5 goals.

I think that speaks more about our usage going forward than our lack of targets.

But I'm happy to agree to disagree.  I don't see him as someone we need to even glance at, but if the club sees it as an area of need then there isn't much I can do about that.

[picket fence 17,729]

A big YES from me!!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I think that speaks more about our usage going forward than our lack of targets.

But I'm happy to agree to disagree.  I don't see him as someone we need to even glance at, but if the club sees it as an area of need then there isn't much I can do about that.

Yep, all fair enough mate, you raise some good points. I'm not super duper keen on him, but for the right price I feel some kind of mature KPF depth would be handy. Cheers!

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Yep, all fair enough mate, you raise some good points. I'm not super duper keen on him, but for the right price I feel some kind of mature KPF depth would be handy. Cheers!

And I'll agree re: the price.  If he came super cheap then I can't complain.  If he fails then we've lost nothing, and if he nails a second or third tall spot down for us, then we've gained plenty.

I just have a feeling the FD won't be looking at talls in this trade period, but then I know nothing and could be totally wrong!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

And I'll agree re: the price.  If he came super cheap then I can't complain.  If he fails then we've lost nothing, and if he nails a second or third tall spot down for us, then we've gained plenty.

I just have a feeling the FD won't be looking at talls in this trade period, but then I know nothing and could be totally wrong!

Yeah, look talls are 3rd down my list behind winger/outside runners and small forwards, but we definitely have a lot of work to do on our list this offseason I reckon.

[Demonland 73,265]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Can mark it. Can't kick it.

Except against us he couldn't miss from anywhere. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,522]

He’s a free agent:

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-free-agents-2019-updated-list-of-restricted-and-unrestricted-free-agents-revealed/news-story/34a03922d5f74bd43177e70f9b4c027b

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-04/former-free-agents-among-50-names-added-to-2019-list

[Demon3 2,541]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Potentially available due to an 'awkward' contract situation at Carlton.

Short version is he played enough games to trigger another year (2020) but given his form this year he's gunning for 2 years. Would be 30 when next season starts (birthday is in March), so 2 years doesn't seem crazy as far as we go.

The problem could be the trade and wage cost given his lift this year, but for the right price in both regards he could be a handy pair of hands and back up ruck for us. The attractions as far as the club goes would be his versatility and that it gives us more options to play 3 tall forwards, which seemed to be the initial plan this year.

Thoughts?

AFL trade whispers 2019: Levi Casboult wants Carlton to extend contract

 

Yep, would have him, offer him 2 years. We need another player in the Fwd line that can help T-Mac and Weid (possibly) He takes a big defender to play on him, and form considered, he probably takes the 1 02 defender, frees up others. Why not.

Nothing should be shot down without proper investigation and thought.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

6 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

He’s a free agent:

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-free-agents-2019-updated-list-of-restricted-and-unrestricted-free-agents-revealed/news-story/34a03922d5f74bd43177e70f9b4c027b

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-04/former-free-agents-among-50-names-added-to-2019-list

He's not anymore.

He had a contract clause that said if he played 30 games in 2 years he gets an automatic extra year.

He's ended up playing those 30 so he's now automatically contracted for 2020.

The sticking point is he's pushing for 2 years as an extension, and Carlton just want to stay with the 1.

 

[Wrecker45 3,378]

I’d do it just for Goodies press conferences. We’d “transition” from not being able to connect to not being able to convert.

Edited August 28, 2019 by Wrecker45

[DubDee 26,191]

I was going to start a Billy Longer thread but was worried about the abuse I might cop but now we have a Levi thread I might go for it!

haha