3 minutes ago, binman said:

To be fair to me.

I've always been a bit of a smart [censored], dipire agreeing with maxim  sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

And I really struggle to contain my smart assery when rationale argument seems not to work against crazy logic. 

As that correctly suggest 2019 has tested my patiencevon dl.

*Grammarly* just has a heart attack

 

 

Thats a lol in case you didnt know.

Collingwood have offered him 3 years and just by coincidence he starts his internship at CGU on Monday which pays 500k a year. 

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

I still maintain we were used as a pawn in their negotiations with Collingwood. Now that Collingwood don’t appear to be blinking they are looking at serious alternatives. I’m not sure we were ever a genuine chance but that could just be the MFCSS talking. 

The truth is out there somewhere Andy.  You may be correct.

I'm just reading the tea leaves and for anyone to head all the way to Brissy the very next morning after a big B&F shindig.  Has 'eager' written allover it.  Would be stunned if he decides otherwise.

This is also why Chicken has attempted the rewrite of his own crow.  I call BS on the Alzheimers but being an ex in the game he would have seen the writing once he got wind he was on a meet & greet and has jumped on board the Brissy wagon post the event.

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Collingwood have offered him 3 years and just by coincidence he starts his internship at CGU on Monday which pays 500k a season. 

Let me guess, it's a work from home gig where he just has to populate a spreadsheet every week with what he's had for breakfast.

Ricky Nixon i believe is the report that Collingwood have trumped up 500k per year over 3. Interestingly he has also tweeted that Gus Brayshaw toured Freo today. Hopefully he is 0/2 there. 

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Collingwood have offered him 3 years and just by coincidence he starts his internship at CGU on Monday which pays 500k a season. 

Not sure where you’re getting your information from ET but I heard he was doing work experience as a flight attendant on Emirates. 

1 minute ago, Rusty Nails said:

The truth is out there somewhere Andy.  You may be correct.

I'm just reading the tea leaves and for anyone to head all the way to Brissy the very next morning after a big B&F shindig.  Has 'eager' written allover it.  Would be stunned if he decides otherwise.

This is also why Chicken has attempted the rewrite of his own crow.  I call BS on the Alzheimers but being an ex in the game he would have seen the writing once he got wind he was on a meet & greet and has jumped on board the Brissy wagon post the event.

I don’t see the Brissy meeting as eager. He was going on holidays on Saturday so took a quick detour which is either all part of due diligence or optics in his negotiations with Collingwood. Don’t discount the optics. 

3 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

Ricky Nixon i believe is the report that Collingwood have trumped up 500k per year over 3. Interestingly he has also tweeted that Gus Brayshaw toured Freo today. Hopefully he is 0/2 there. 

Yeh i saw that also.  He does have bro there of course.  Next up Chicken will be tweeting we're doing a swap for Fyfe.

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails

4 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

Ricky Nixon i believe is the report that Collingwood have trumped up 500k per year over 3. Interestingly he has also tweeted that Gus Brayshaw toured Freo today. Hopefully he is 0/2 there. 

Nixon’s been reading Demonland. 

Just now, Rusty Nails said:

Yeh i saw that also.  He does have bro there of course.  Next up Chicken will be tweeting we're doing a swap for Fyfe.

There's some talk that Angus' father may take over Fremantle's vacant CEO position. Would be the worst possible time to sell Gus, as we obviously won't be getting Freo's two top 10 picks

3 minutes ago, Richard Tionary said:

There's some talk that Angus' father may take over Fremantle's vacant CEO position. Would be the worst possible time to sell Gus, as we obviously won't be getting Freo's two top 10 picks

I think his 2019 form put paid to that

We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if we're putting any credence into what Ricky Nixon has to say.  The bloke struggles to sit the right way on toilet seat.

19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I don’t see the Brissy meeting as eager. He was going on holidays on Saturday so took a quick detour which is either all part of due diligence or optics in his negotiations with Collingwood. Don’t discount the optics. 

And a film crew just happened to be there when he arrived at their facilities....

Got a heads up by his manager, or what?

18 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Nixon’s been reading Demonland. 

Nixon = Range Rover/Matsuo Busho/ GetPatton/blah, blah, blah ?????

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if we're putting any credence into what Ricky Nixon has to say.  The bloke struggles to sit the right way on toilet seat.

That’s probably because he’s not going to the toilets to use them.

1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

 Everyone in footy knows why we faltered this year and how easily fixed it is.

Whoo. I was worried there for a bit.

21 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

And a film crew just happened to be there when he arrived at their facilities....

Got a heads up by his manager, or what?

That was my conspiracy theory yesterday. 

 If the Pies cave and offer a third year then that gambit worked.  

This thread is a good example of why list decisions aren't generally made public,

Talk about jumping at shadows

2 hours ago, A F said:

I reckon he decided on us a few weeks ago.

You've been pretty confident right through AF. Any reason?

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if we're putting any credence into what Ricky Nixon has to say.  The bloke struggles to sit the right way on toilet seat.

Please don't tell us how you know that, mate.

Lol @praha

16 hours ago, praha said:

Won't be leaving Collingwood.

6 hours ago, praha said:

If Elliot signs with Brisbane, it would be another indictment on Goodwin and co at the hands of Brisbane. Their progression and performance this year across the season showed up Goodwin and the club, and now we may lose a free agency race against a team that started 2018 at 0-8. I know we've really been no better than Brisbane over the past decade but 2019 has been an absolute dagger into our reputation and appeal to players, fans and media alike. Even Richmond was able to get Prestia and Caddy over the line after their pathetic 2016 season. We stand to get Langdon and overpay for a Frost replacement in Tomlinson, when the former probably would have been cheaper to keep.

You're just posting whatever suits your doomsday, hyperbolic, OTT negative outlook.

No Brisbane in the frame = we can't prise him out of Collingwood. Then Brisbane show up = Brisbane has "gone past us".

If we were Brisbane you'd be critical of our 0-2 straight sets home finals exit. You'd note that we had no injuries all year (which probabilities suggest won't happen again in 2020), and you'd note that our fixture only had one repeat game against the top 8 and in our 9-game winning streak we only beat two top 8 sides, one of which was a faltering Geelong by 1 point.

Brisbane looked good this year. We looked just as good last year. Both young, both taken ages to make finals. 

Never mind the inaccuracy of calling Tomlinson a Frost replacement (by the way, if the media reports are true we'll be paying Tomlinson less than what Frost wants, and we get a draft pick out of trading Frost with no pick needed to get Tomlinson).

59 minutes ago, loges said:

You've been pretty confident right through AF. Any reason?

I can't think of a single time Mahoney has come out and said anything about a player we've been targeting without them already being on board. We don't tend to release who we're going after, despite often going fishing (contrary to the seeming Demonland belief that we rarely have a crack at players). The fact we have mentioned Elliott this time, leads me to deduce that he's already committed to us. Clearly not contractually, but probably verbally. 

It doesn't look good if you come out and do a North and then not land the player. Of course that happens from time to time, but as Andy suggests, optics are important. To managers and to clubs. 

It could be wishful thinking, but it reminds me of Judd touring our facilities before he came back from the West. Was already signed, sealed and delivered by all reports, but he still went through the facade of touring the facilities, if for nothing else, ego. 

I'm not suggesting that Elliott's is necessarily about ego, but that could come into it.

I reckon it's between Collingwood and Melbourne, and we're in the box seat unless they up their offer and he does a backflip.

Yes, this is all compete speculation.

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by A F

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

Darwin gone.

On a side note, Lions brought in 4 players in last  couple of years who finished top 10 in B & F and 2 last year who won and finished 4th. Good recruiting.

Has this been announced? Did I miss this?

6 minutes ago, A F said:

I can't think of a single time Mahoney has come out and said anything about a player we've been targeting without them already being on board. We don't tend to release who we're going after, despite often going fishing (contrary to the seeming Demonland belief that we rarely have a crack at players). The fact we have mentioned Elliott this time, leads me to deduce that he's already committed to us. Clearly not contractually, but probably verbally. 

It doesn't look good if you come out and do a North and then not land the player. Of course that happens from time to time, but as Andy suggests, optics are important. To managers and to clubs. 

It could be wishful thinking, but it reminds me of Judd touring our facilities before he came back from the West. Was already signed, sealed and delivered by all reports, but he still went through the facade of touring the facilities, if for nothing else, ego. 

I'm not suggesting that Elliott's is necessarily about ego, but that could come into it. I reckon it's between Collingwood and Melbourne, and we're in the box seat unless they up their offer and he does a backflip.

Whilst I agree that Mahoney is usually tight lipped during trade negotiations I got the impression that he was backed into a corner (for want of a better phrase) and didn’t mean to mention the 3 years on the table. He muttered it and I got the feeling he immediately regretted saying it. That’s my take anyway. 

I didn’t take it as a done deal at all but I’m a glass is half empty kinda guy. 

42 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Whilst I agree that Mahoney is usually tight lipped during trade negotiations I got the impression that he was backed into a corner (for want of a better phrase) and didn’t mean to mention the 3 years on the table. He muttered it and I got the feeling he immediately regretted saying it. That’s my take anyway. 

I didn’t take it as a done deal at all but I’m a glass is half empty kinda guy. 

Yep, you could well be right, mate, but he must have known he'd be asked about Langdon, Tomlinson and Elliott. The three guys we've clearly been linked to throughout this period. He'd have had mapped out responses to these questions and there's no reason for him to provide any information that we don't want out there.

Say what you like about Mahoney (most of it completely uninformed), but he's a very well regarded figure in the industry. We had an unacceptable 2019, but he's earned my trust as a supporter by landing the two biggest traded recruits on the market, two years running. What's also notable is that in that time, the club hasn't leaked and has only come clean once Lever and May were clearly committed to us.

Now perhaps there's further politicking at play in this situation (ie. an ulterior strategy for coming out and discussing the Elliott trade in any detail at all), but if not, I think there's a reason to be still optimistic about us landing Elliott.