6 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

They will give GC top two picks for Rowell and Anderson - those kids are best mates and so will be more likely to stick it out up there together.

Or leave together. Or leave separately. 

Retention is their problem not picks. Get them senior players or a retention allowance, not more kids.

Edited September 23, 20196 yr by ManDee

2 hours ago, Macca said:

It must also be pointed out that we have used our last 3 first round picks on Lever & May

Prior to that we used 2nd round picks on Frost,  Melksham & Hibberd

All good moves in my book regardless of the injuries. 

Draftees like Brayshaw,  Petracca & Hogan all suffered major injuries or setbacks so it works both ways

So what I'm advocating is actually happening. 

Yep, that's what I was saying too.

1 hour ago, A F said:

Yep, that's what I was saying too.

So what do we differ on?

Does anybody know when today, we will know if gc gets our pick 2?

2 hours ago, deebug said:

Does anybody know when today, we will know if gc gets our pick 2?

right around time the brownlow coverage starts, via a press release

20 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

right around time the brownlow coverage starts, via a press release

Thank you. 

27 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

right around time the brownlow coverage starts, via a press release

Yep, the age old release important information/news when everyone is distracted by something else so there's little to no backlash.

Edited September 23, 20196 yr by AshleyH30

If it was ever in doubt, then after the NAB League U/18 GF it wont be. Rowell was amazing and they will make sure they deliver his mate with him to make sure they stay together.

Lock it in Ed.

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

right around time the brownlow coverage starts, via a press release

 

During the red carpet fluff-fest.

6 hours ago, Macca said:

So what do we differ on?

I was saying you couldn't build a list from scratch with only trading away first rounders. But if you plan for it at the top (like say 2004-2005), you have a few decent players around when you get ordinary picks in 2007, 2008 etc.

4 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

right around time the brownlow coverage starts, via a press release

Won't be until a few days after the granny, the AFL know how to manage the media so after the results have died down a bit they'll bank on a heap of uproar/talk about the PP

1 hour ago, A F said:

I was saying you couldn't build a list from scratch with only trading away first rounders. But if you plan for it at the top (like say 2004-2005), you have a few decent players around when you get ordinary picks in 2007, 2008 etc.

I believe it was RPFC who stated that our recruiting woes started from the early 2000's and I reckon he's right.

Hard to remember back that far but you build for the super-list from a position of strength.

But we sat back,  our good players got old and before you know it we were in for a total rebuild with a rookie coach and a meddling CEO.

A recipe for disaster.  We went all-in with drafting and the rest is history

Think I'm right in saying that only 2 players remain who were drafted before 2010

 An ageing Jones and Jetta who is now struggling with injury

We actually need some more experienced talent who could help out for a few years.  Free agents & RFA's who can actually play AF.

1 hour ago, Macca said:

I believe it was RPFC who stated that our recruiting woes started from the early 2000's and I reckon he's right.

Hard to remember back that far but you build for the super-list from a position of strength.

But we sat back,  our good players got old and before you know it we were in for a total rebuild with a rookie coach and a meddling CEO.

A recipe for disaster.  We went all-in with drafting and the rest is history

Think I'm right in saying that only 2 players remain who were drafted before 2010

 An ageing Jones and Jetta who is now struggling with injury

We actually need some more experienced talent who could help out for a few years.  Free agents & RFA's who can actually play AF.

Fair enough and agree with all of that.

1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Won't be until a few days after the granny, the AFL know how to manage the media so after the results have died down a bit they'll bank on a heap of uproar/talk about the PP

Would seem that they’re going down this path if they don’t announce it today

Generally speaking it’s always been announced as a ‘no’ on brownlow night, so maybe if it’s a ‘yes’ to the pointy end priority pick they’re looking to maximise the media exposure 

2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Would seem that they’re going down this path if they don’t announce it today

Generally speaking it’s always been announced as a ‘no’ on brownlow night, so maybe if it’s a ‘yes’ to the pointy end priority pick they’re looking to maximise the media exposure 

Great, this year keeps on giving us s#$*

13 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

should be announced today

Just announced on SBS during an ad break while they were showing a Slovakian soap opera. 

14 minutes ago, Deeman said:

Just announced on SBS during an ad break while they were showing a Slovakian soap opera. 

They gave them our pick 2?

 

It doesn’t matter if we have Pick 2 or 3.

In the end, the Dees will end up with Ben King. 

3 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

It doesn’t matter if we have Pick 2 or 3.

In the end, the Dees will end up with Ben King. 

How do you know that?

4 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

It doesn’t matter if we have Pick 2 or 3.

In the end, the Dees will end up with Ben King. 

Your opinion or you have a legitimate source?

3 minutes ago, deebug said:

How do you know that?

 

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Your opinion or you have a legitimate source?

It’s my opinion...

I think the writing is on the wall with Ben King. GC might as well deal him this year for a premium.

GWS will be involved as well! Keen to get there hands on the Dees Pick and will pay the price. 

 

1 & 2 to GC a done deal according to Watto: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/23/crows-midfielder-very-close-to-accepting-suns-offer/

9 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

1 & 2 to GC a done deal according to Watto: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/09/23/crows-midfielder-very-close-to-accepting-suns-offer/

Interesting about Crouch Chaser. Would he be worth the Suns’ late first rounder (17 as it stands) in your opinion? You’d think the Crows would play a bit of hardball. If indeed it does eventuate, adding Ellis and possibly Crouch along with Picks 1 & 2 would have them improving next year one would think.

Gil just said that the decision around Gold Coast support has been made by the commission and that the details will be released on Monday after the Grad Final. When pressed by Gerrard Whateley, he said that the decision was not a particularly hard one and that all at the AFL supported the recommendations. 

My reading from it - pick 2 is off to the Gold Coast. 

9 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

Gil just said that the decision around Gold Coast support has been made by the commission and that the details will be released on Monday after the Grad Final. When pressed by Gerrard Whateley, he said that the decision was not a particularly hard one and that all at the AFL supported the recommendations. 

My reading from it - pick 2 is off to the Gold Coast. 

If true, I hope that we have got something from the AFL, for our loss and it is our loss made a little less if,  we trade 3 to someone.

There is no doubt at all, that GC have a better list and more upside, than we did, when we were constantly refused PP's.

They have a raft of young talent and if well coached, retained and developed, GC will rise up the ladder quickly, with the addition of several experienced players they apparently are securing this off season.