Walters gets off. 

Tribunal has shown their usual form when it comes to Downlow possibles - the maggot was apparently lying as was Christian. 

The  betting market AFL nexus strikes again. 

Walters cleared - amateur hour continues.

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:24, monoccular said:

Tribunal has shown their usual form when it comes to Downlow possibles - the maggot was apparently lying as was Christian. 

The  betting market AFL nexus strikes again. 

Not sure which maggot you're referring to here. The umpire was clear in his evidence that it was a headbutt, and reportable. So much for umpire appreciation. The only non-biased individual involved, charged with ensuring a fair game, is completely ignored.

The other maggot involved, although more of a germ than a maggot, definitely lied saying he was only trying to 'chest' him. Absolute rubbish, but good enough to overturn the suspension, I'd say on the 'Let the stars play' rule.

So tribunal deemed the umpire a liar. Better sack the umpire then for making false reports. No integrity left with regard to a match day report. If it’s not on close up camera, you can do what you like. Lockhart gave evidence to help him out too. That irks me. Other clubs do nothing to help us. Too nice.

well that will be the death of umpires making on-field reports

 

For anyone with a match review lottery calculator, what does intentional conduct, high contact, and low impact, add up to?

Walters admitted it was intentional, hit him between the eyebrows, and he's a weak [censored].

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:36, Leoncelli_36 said:

So tribunal deemed the umpire a liar. Better sack the umpire then for making false reports. No integrity left with regard to a match day report. If it’s not on close up camera, you can do what you like. Lockhart gave evidence to help him out too. That irks me. Other clubs do nothing to help us. Too nice.

If Lockhart supported him then there was clearly nothing in it. I’ll take integrity and good spirit of the game over a 1 week penalty for a player in a team we played the week before, making it completely meaningless to us moving forward. 

Would you honestly rather see minor infractions like this relentlessly pursued and prosecuted? The game is getting painfully soft enough as it is. 

I’m almost Glad he got off. We’re on a slippery enough slope with the MRP as is. I don’t want to see every single bit of aggression sucked out of the game I love. 

Why are we getting all worked up over an incident where the ‘victim’ said there was nothing in it? 

Edited June 25, 20195 yr by Smokey

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:42, Smokey said:

If Lockhart supported him then there was clearly nothing in it. I’ll take integrity and good spirit of the game over a 1 week penalty for a player in a team we played the week before, making it completely meaningless to us moving forward. 

Would you honestly rather see minor infractions like this relentlessly pursued and prosecuted? The game is getting painfully soft enough as it is. 

I’m almost Glad he got off. We’re on a slippery enough slope with the MRP as is. I don’t want to see every single bit of aggression sucked out of the game I love. 

Why are we getting all worked up over an incident where the ‘victim’ said there was nothing in it? 

Headbutting someone off the ball is soft. IMO things like that deserve a suspensions despite impact. Nothing tough about it.

I shouldn't be surprised that the AFL said they were going to clean up these things and then not follow through with it.

 

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:42, Smokey said:

If Lockhart supported him then there was clearly nothing in it. I’ll take integrity and good spirit of the game over a 1 week penalty for a player in a team we played the week before, making it completely meaningless to us moving forward. 

Would you honestly rather see minor infractions like this relentlessly pursued and prosecuted? The game is getting painfully soft enough as it is. 

I’m almost Glad he got off. We’re on a slippery enough slope with the MRP as is. I don’t want to see every single bit of aggression sucked out of the game I love. 

Why are we getting all worked up over an incident where the ‘victim’ said there was nothing in it? 

I just don’t like our players helping out other players, given how other clubs have potted us at the tribunal over the last few years. We have had false medical reports thrown at us and so on. The umpire has no reason to lie. Walters headbutted him. So why go give contrary evidence ? You reckon the same will be afforded to us in future? No chance . Look at the May incident in the JLT. Weak underbelly, always the nice guys. 

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:49, Lord Nev said:

Headbutting someone off the ball is soft. IMO things like that deserve a suspensions despite impact. Nothing tough about it.

I shouldn't be surprised that the AFL said they were going to clean up these things and then not follow through with it.

 

Didnt say he was tough. Vision of him trying to snipe Viney proves that wonderfully. 

If Jay said there was nothing in it, I’m moving right along. 

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:51, Smokey said:

Didnt say he was tough. Vision of him trying to snipe Viney proves that wonderfully. 

If Jay said there was nothing in it, I’m moving right along. 

Fair enough mate, but players will always stick up for players to the point of lying. The footage clearly showed him doing it, sure might not have been a lot of force, but it's intent and the act that I would like to see stopped. I don't want my kid headbutting or being headbutted at Auskick.

 

  On 25/06/2019 at 10:50, Leoncelli_36 said:

I just don’t like our players helping out other players, given how other clubs have potted us at the tribunal over the last few years. We have had false medical reports thrown at us and so on. The umpire has no reason to lie. Walters headbutted him. So why go give contrary evidence ? You reckon the same will be afforded to us in future? No chance . Look at the May incident in the JLT. Weak underbelly, always the nice guys. 

I agree we don’t seem to get the rub of green when it comes to this stuff. But really, are you saying the umpire is in a position to say whether jay got headbutted than jay himself? If the umpire has no reason to lie, why should jay? Nothing wrong with having some integrity, and if you think integrity is a sign of weakness I think your metrics are a little off. 

Edited June 25, 20195 yr by Smokey

Cleared of headbutting for second time in 12 months. Walters-  "There is times where I need to watch it (technique) in future. The only reason why I lower my head is to make sure I've got that force behind me, otherwise I'm going to get knocked over."

Hmmm. Christian consulted the umpire who he said was in prime position and in his opinion it was intentional. That was the criteria Christian gave for the week suspension. Then the jury at the tribunal rules it was not intentional. So which was it?

No support given to the field umpire who was standing right next to the two players on the day and reported what he saw and no support to Christian for using the umpire's statement to come to his decision.

As for Walters' statement, what the heck is he saying? He needs to improve his technique for headbutting? Does he actually expect us to believe Lockhart was about to knock him over? Excuse me? He falls over quite easily himself with no help from anyone else. We all saw his technique on Saturday. What a load of codswallop. 

I would love to see the AFL and Christo nut up here and support the umpire by appealing this decision.

Walters is a squib.  

YEah he tries his best not to fall over. We all know that isn’t true. Exposed multiple times on the weekend. This bloke is a squibb and quickly has become my most hated player. 

And if we boo him next time we will be branded “racist”, mark my words.  

  On 25/06/2019 at 11:53, monoccular said:

And if we boo him next time we will be branded “racist”, mark my words.  

this thread is probably racist based on latest definitions

As others have said there couldn’t have been a lot on it, so happy for him to get off, disappointed other articles have sighted petraccas dive on the wing but failed to talk about Walters antics but instead how good he was

From the AFL bloke i was talking to, Walters has the same amount of Brownlow votes as our best player at the moment.......

  On 25/06/2019 at 22:55, willmoy said:

From the AFL bloke i was talking to, Walters has the same amount of Brownlow votes as our best player at the moment.......

I call bulltish!

  On 26/06/2019 at 02:33, ManDee said:

I call bulltish!

I would be willing to put a small pecuniary wager if i could prove it, but then how does one suspend an officer of the "crown" 

Only one public view of the incident, how convenient.....

Number 11 maggot will incur my verbal wrath if he doesn't smarten up, one cannot wear brown paper bags on the way out of the ground, it's a little to obvious and is only the norm at "blues" grounds

  On 26/06/2019 at 06:05, willmoy said:

I would be willing to put a small pecuniary wager if i could prove it, but then how does one suspend an officer of the "crown" 

We will know part of the answer on Brownlow night when we look at the votes at round 14. If the vote tally is the same you will have piqued my interest. But I do not think anyone at the AFL would know more than a couple of votes in a couple of games, most would be guesswork as you or I would do. I will put a note in my diary to revisit this September 24th. Any pecuniary win you may donate to the club.