PREGAME: Rd 04 vs Sydney

[bing181 9,235]

Can't see us winning this - but expect a better showing, at least.

[dave 183]

9 hours ago, The Stigga said:

We'll win this.

Smaller ground, one day extra break.

McVeigh a big loss. Hayward as well, makes them need to go to Buddy more.

Let the system go... just play and enjoy.

Depends on what they do at selection table, if ANB and Frost or OMac are in team we have no hope. We cannot reward players for absolute trash games

[picket fence 17,169]

3 hours ago, Oneday said:

Alir Alir will have a field day picking off our i50 entries!

Ole Ole I think I heard Dees supporters say!

As we crushed the Swans in a rare win 

when we played  them AWAY!

[titan_uranus 25,018]

9 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not sure why folks think SCG is a 'small ground':  155m L x 136m W. 

As a reminder:  Round 2, 2019 @ gmha:  170m L x 115m W.  We lost by 80 points.

It is the wider grounds that trouble us because opp spread wide and stretch our defences on the outside.  SCG has more room for this play than gmha had.  If we can't win on a ground that is 115m wide I can't see it happening on one that is 20m wider. 

Last year I would have agreed,  but this year I don't think our problem is width that much. As in, I don't think we're being broken down defensively because we can't spread wide. IMO if we play like we did in Rounds 1-3 we'll get opened up on any ground, narrow or wide.

One possible benefit to the SCG is that its shorter in length. We love pressing up into our forward half and at the SCG I suppose that doesn't leave as much space out the back as it does at the G or at GMHBA, for example. So maybe there's less space behind us to defend and we won't get caught out as much?

[Demonland 72,187]

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,821]

10 hours ago, Umpire Please said:

I think I am correct in saying that Buddy hasn’t played in a loosing team against Melbourne. Time to break another Hoodoo DEES ?

That’s a horrifying stat considering Buddy hasn’t exactly been around for 5 minutes.

We beat Hawthorn in Buddy’s second year but he didn’t play that night.

[beelzebub 23,374]

8 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Last year I would have agreed,  but this year I don't think our problem is width that much. As in, I don't think we're being broken down defensively because we can't spread wide. IMO if we play like we did in Rounds 1-3 we'll get opened up on any ground, narrow or wide.

One possible benefit to the SCG is that its shorter in length. We love pressing up into our forward half and at the SCG I suppose that doesn't leave as much space out the back as it does at the G or at GMHBA, for example. So maybe there's less space behind us to defend and we won't get caught out as much?

The SCG has always played effectively half a kick shorter. It's not really that much shorter, just plays that way. As I view it, the new kick in strategy will put the swannies practically into attack position from that long kick in , especially against teams with poor defense structure.

I fear we'll be opened up like a can of beans.

[praha 11,240]

11 hours ago, Umpire Please said:

I think I am correct in saying that Buddy hasn’t played in a loosing team against Melbourne. Time to break another Hoodoo DEES ?

You are correct. 

[Demonland 72,187]

SWANSONG by Whispering Jack

They said that in 2019, the Melbourne Football Club was going to take its game to another level but we were never prepared for the level the club is reaching as it approaches the fourth round of the season holding up the entire AFL ladder in a match that could be its swansong for the year.   

We were meant to be premiership contenders, not playing off for a wooden spoon which is what will be the case unless there is a sudden and dramatic turn around in our fortunes!   

And whilst there’s been a lot of soul searching and declarations of honesty and openness, the fact of the matter is that nobody really has the solution to the club’s woeful form or why players who could hold their heads high in the first half of September last year are dropping marks, fumbling the footy, leaking goals in short bursts in time and allowing opponents to dance around them if they were stationary witches hats.   

This week, they make the trip north to Sydney where they face off a lacklustre side that, despite struggling to overcome Carlton, will start as the red hot favourite to beat a Melbourne combination that seems to have taken a trip back in time of half a decade to its dark, old days of wretchedness and ineptitude before Paul Roos took them for their first training run in the post Neeld era. The Demons can be thankful that they have Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver and Max Gawn because some of the others who led the charge last year have become invisible men.  

Sydney have scored about the same number of points for this season although Melbourne averages 8.3 more inside 50 entries per game. 

On the other hand, the Dees have conceded 100 points more than the Swans - a sign of how poor they have been because their opponents this week have been no world beaters.   

Melbourne’s underdone skippers Nathan Jones and Jack Viney are in charge of a ship that is listing in a storm. It’s their job to take control and steer it into calmer waters.  However, they have the task ahead of them in front of a hostile SCG crowd - Sydney by 19 points.

THE GAME    

Melbourne v Sydney Swans at the SCG Thursday 11 April 2019 at 7.20pm      

HEAD TO HEAD     

Overall Sydney Swans 113 wins Melbourne 92 wins 2 drawn     
At SCG Sydney Swans 14 wins Me lbourne 8 wins   
Last 5 meetings Sydney Swans 5 wins Melbourne 0 wins  
The Coaches Longmire 2 wins Goodwin 0 wins  

MEDIA      

TV - Channel 7 Fox Footy Live at 7.00pm  

RADIO - TBA  

THE LAST TIME THEY MET Sydney Swans 13.9.87 defeated Melbourne 10.18.78  in Round 21 2018 at the MCG      

Melbourne dominated in the general play but its kicking for goal was deplorable, allowing Sydney to win a thrilling encounter by just nine points. Young Swans high flyer Isaac Heeney, who was clearly best on ground, took the mark of the year standing on Jesse Hogan’s shoulders as a farewell to the Demon key forward.

THE TEAMS      

SYDNEY SWANS     

B Callum Mills  Dane Rampe  Tom McCartin 
HB Jake Lloyd  Aliir Aliir  Jackson Thurlow 
C Zak Jones  Luke Parker  Oliver Florent 
HF Harry Cunningham  Sam Reid  Isaac Heeney 
F Jordan Dawson  Lance Franklin  Kieren Jack 
FOLL Callum Sinclair  Josh P Kennedy  Tom Papley 
I/C
 Nick Blakey George Hewett Justin McInerney Ben Ronke
EMG Ryan Clarke  Robbie Fox Lewis Melican  James Rose 

IN Kieren Jack Justin McInerney

OUT
Jarrad McVeigh (quad) Will Hayward (jaw)

MELBOURNE

B Michael Hibberd  Oscar McDonald  Neville Jetta 
HB Billy Stretch  Sam Frost  Nathan Jones 
C Jayden Hunt  Clayton Oliver  Christian Salem 
HF James Harmes  Sam Weideman  Angus Brayshaw 
F Corey Wagner  Tom McDonald  Jake Melksham 
FOLL Max Gawn  Christian Petracca  Jack Viney 
I/C Bayley Fritsch  Jay Lockhart  Braydon Preuss Josh Wagner 
EMG Marty Hore Alex Neal-Bullen  Harrison Petty Charlie Spargo  

IN Braydon Preuss Billy Stretch

OUT Kade Kolodjashnij (concussion) Alex Neal-Bullen (omitted)

Injury List - Round 4  

Tom McDonald (ankle) — test 
Charlie Spargo (jaw) — test 
Jordan Lewis (hamstring) — 1 week 
Steven May (groin) — 2-3 weeks 
Joel Smith (groin) — TBA 
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) — 4-6 weeks 
Mitch Hannan (knee) — 6-8 weeks 
Jake Lever (knee) — 6-8 weeks 
Jay Kennedy-Harris (knee) — 10-12 weeks 
Guy Walker (shoulder) — season 
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — season      

[Wrecker45 3,378]

We win the next 3 straight and become favourite for the flag.

As long as the umpires don’t crucify us every time we look like getting a run on.

[old dee 23,791]

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

SWANSONG by Whispering Jack

They said that in 2019, the Melbourne Football Club was going to take its game to another level but we were never prepared for the level the club is reaching as it approaches the fourth round of the season holding up the entire AFL ladder in a match that could be its swansong for the year.   

We were meant to be premiership contenders, not playing off for a wooden spoon which is what will be the case unless there is a sudden and dramatic turn around in our fortunes!   

And whilst there’s been a lot of soul searching and declarations of honesty and openness, the fact of the matter is that nobody really has the solution to the club’s woeful form or why players who could hold their heads high in the first half of September last year are dropping marks, fumbling the footy, leaking goals in short bursts in time and allowing opponents to dance around them if they were stationary witches hats.   

This week, they make the trip north to Sydney where they face off a lacklustre side that, despite struggling to overcome Carlton, will start as the red hot favourite to beat a Melbourne combination that seems to have taken a trip back in time of half a decade to its dark, old days of wretchedness and ineptitude before Paul Roos took them for their first training run in the post Neeld era. The Demons can be thankful that they have Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver and Max Gawn because some of the others who led the charge last year have become invisible men.  

Sydney have scored about the same number of points for this season although Melbourne averages 8.3 more inside 50 entries per game. 

On the other hand, the Dees have conceded 100 points more than the Swans - a sign of how poor they have been because their opponents this week have been no world beaters.   

Melbourne’s underdone skippers Nathan Jones and Jack Viney are in charge of a ship that is listing in a storm. It’s their job to take control and steer it into calmer waters.  However, they have the task ahead of them in front of a hostile SCG crowd - Sydney by 19 points  

THE GAME    

Melbourne v Sydney Swans at the SCG Thursday 11 April 2019 at 7.20pm      

HEAD TO HEAD     

Overall Sydney Swans 113 wins Melbourne 92 wins 2 drawn     
At SCG Sydney Swans 14 wins Me lbourne 8 wins   
Last 5 meetings Sydney Swans 5 wins Melbourne 0 wins  
The Coaches Longmire 2 wins Goodwin 0 wins  

MEDIA      

TV - Channel 7 Fox Footy Live at 7.00pm  

RADIO - TBA  

THE LAST TIME THEY MET Sydney Swans 13.9.87 defeated Melbourne 10.18.78  in Round 21 2018 at the MCG      

Melbourne dominated in the general play but its kicking for goal was deplorable, allowing Sydney to win a thrilling encounter by just nine points. Young Swans high flyer Isaac Heeney, who was clearly best on ground, took the mark of the year standing on Jesse Hogan’s shoulders as a farewell to the Demon key forward.   

THE TEAMS      

SYDNEY SWANS     

B 
HB 
C 
HF 
F 
FOLL 
I/C 
EMG  

IN  

OUT  

MELBOURNE   

B 
HB 
C 
HF 
F 
FOLL 
I/C 
EMG  

IN  

OUT  

Injury List - Round 4  

Tom McDonald (ankle) — test 
Charlie Spargo (jaw) — test 
Jordan Lewis (hamstring) — 1 week 
Steven May (groin) — 2-3 weeks 
Joel Smith (groin) — TBA 
Aaron vandenBerg (foot) — 4-6 weeks 
Mitch Hannan (knee) — 6-8 weeks 
Jake Lever (knee) — 6-8 weeks 
Jay Kennedy-Harris (knee) — 10-12 weeks 
Guy Walker (shoulder) — season 
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — season      

How do you test a broken jaw?

[chook fowler 19,459]

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

How do you test a broken jaw?

get my wife to cook a steak

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

The SCG has always played effectively half a kick shorter. It's not really that much shorter, just plays that way. As I view it, the new kick in strategy will put the swannies practically into attack position from that long kick in , especially against teams with poor defense structure.

I fear we'll be opened up like a can of beans.

The congestion will suit us.

We’re miles off playing good footy but the fixture is kind to us over the next 3 weeks

[old dee 23,791]

1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

get my wife to cook a steak

Very sharp this morning chook.

[beelzebub 23,374]

Just now, Wrecker45 said:

The congestion will suit us.

We’re miles off playing good footy but the fixture is kind to us over the next 3 weeks

Well be the only ones congested or haven't you been watching us lately. Clever teams allow us to play stacks on the mill. 

[chook fowler 19,459]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Very sharp this morning chook.

i wish

[58er 6,436]

I believe we can beat the Swans if our forward line can play like it did in the 2nd quarter and our defence toughens up and mans up.

Also providing ANB Oscar are changed for  by Pruess and Garlett/Stretch.

Jonesy May get away with his role on the wing but it should be phased out and he be placed in the forward 50 metre as a crumber.

The 2 way midfield should tighten up and not sure if Harmsey has been tagging If not then Heeney  might be a start! 

Of course 18.4 and not 4.18 is a given.

We badly need an update in our Plan and the Coaches should have been burning midnight oil on this!

Go Dees!

[beelzebub 23,374]

2 minutes ago, 58er said:

I believe we can beat the Swans if our forward line can play like it did in the 2nd quarter and our defence toughens up and mans up.

Also providing ANB Oscar are changed for  by Pruess and Garlett/Stretch.

Jonesy May get away with his role on the wing but it should be phased out and he be placed in the forward 50 metre as a crumber.

The 2 way midfield should tighten up and not sure if Harmsey has been tagging If not then Heeney  might be a start! 

Of course 18.4 and not 4.18 is a given.

We badly need an update in our Plan and the Coaches should have been burning midnight oil on this!

Go Dees!

So... provided it's all different...we have a chance....right O 

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

So... provided it's all different...we have a chance....right O 

Have you been watching us lately?

We need to adapt to the new rules.

[beelzebub 23,374]

4 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Have you been watching us lately?

We need to adapt to the new rules.

With all due respect...we need to do much more than that.

666./ Kick ins....nothing to do with 4 players to the ball

666/kick ins.... nothing to do with bombing

666/kickins ....nothing to do with spoiling own marks

666/kickins... nothing to do with not running two ways

666/kickins.... nothing to do with ridiculous defense

666/kickins ....nothing to do with lack of pressure.

Yes we need to adapt.... maybe we first start by adapting to AFL !!!!

 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,821]

Excuse of the week by the club - "we had back to back 6 day breaks".

Edited April 10, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[GCDee 3,199]

If ANB is in the team I will not watch this game. 

[DeeZee 7,393]

TMac Stretch Hore and Spargo are on the plane.

No Preuss

[sue 9,106]

5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Excuse of the week by the club - "we had back to back 6 day breaks".

Well combined with the issues around lack of fitness due to pre-season factors, it sounds like it would be a quite justifiable one.   

[Demonland 72,187]