Post Practice Match Discussion - Melbourne v Collingwood

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I was watching on and off, but did see Vandenberg lay an absolutely beauty of a tackle on Dayne Beams. You could tell it took the wind out of him.

[Demonland 73,495]

4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

A win with 10 of our top 22 missing. No injuries. Preuss looking the goods. Luvly Jubbly.

Let's not forgot that they too had players missing. I thought we had a much stronger line up. 

Still nice to take the biccies. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Did Hore play?

[BAMF 4,433]

I only saw the 2nd half of the 3rd quarter onwards.

• VDB looks in ripping shape. He was in everything and was the highlight for me. He was in the center bounce a fair bit in the last. He is a sledgehammer. Looked very fit and took it seriously. 
• Lewis played well. I'm hoping a number of players go past him this year but he will be important in the first few rounds while we get other players back up to speed and I'm happy that he is on the list.
• Sparrow played wing and then moved into the center bounce at times. Physically ready to play and will get game time this year. Looked like a first year player who didn't quite belong yet and didn't seem to position himself that well to get the ball, but when he was in a position to get it he did a lot right. Didn't look clean but he was determined to impact the contest and his second and third efforts were great.
• Preuss looked good. Clearly not as polished or composed as Gawn. Had the opportunity to kill a bloke in the last 10 minutes and pulled out. I reckon if it was round one he would have smashed the bloke. Will be very interested to see how the two ruck situation will continue over the JLT.

Edited February 22, 2019 by BAMF

[kryton101 411]

Let me guess what the coaches will say:

Goodwin: it was a good hit out and good to come away with a strong win without having to overstretch ourselves.

Buckley: the score doesn’t matter, we were able to test players out of position 

Edited February 22, 2019 by kryton101

[Demonland 73,495]

5 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

So Preuss Rd 1?

I'd be shocked if he wasn't. 

Sensible filth fan next to me agreed. 

They have to play a tall decent player on him and with TMac and Weid and perhaps one of the Smiths we are looking dangerous up forward and I haven't mentioned the crumbers. 

[DeeSpencer 26,301]

Pressure really good from both sides.

Apart from the first 10 minutes our pressure was good and structures seemed sound.

Pies were missing their 3 most dangerous forwards in De Goey, Stephenson and WHE, although Elliott makes up for one of those. So the low score from them isn't a huge surprise. That was pretty much 2017 Collingwood we played when they couldn't score.

I was a little disappointed we didn't switch the ball more around half back, we seemed comfortable to bomb it out.

Backline: Frost and Oscar both started very poorly missing chances to kill contests with intercepts or strong punches. Frosty clean missed a few chances to mark and Oscar looked slow. But they got going as the game spread out a bit more and our pressure came up. Jetta excellent. Hibberd solid. Lewis did enough defensively and apart from his trade mark dumb free kicks he played well. Hunt good.

Mids: Gus had it on a string early and his clean hands and tackle pressure was excellent. Tracc then took over. Vanders cracked in. Young Sparrow tagged Treloar in the second half, nice goal and won some ball, probably wasn't as clean with his tackles as I expected. Max dominated, hardly a surprise there. Salem showed his class at times.

Forwards: Pressure was really good. Joel Smith a nice addition in that regard and C Wagner worked hard. Tim Smith did ok. Preussy hit some contests very hard but I wasn't impressed by his positioning, did get on the end of it a few times though. One nice grab and a solid but not spectacular game from Weids. Nice goal from Garlett and good pressure but he made some dreadful errors kicking the ball along the ground and making bad decisions, didn't do enough to convince me he was in any way back.

Stock up:
JKH - really got us going in the first term and was dangerous all game, strong enough at the contest, high work rate
Hunt - no huge runs but opened the game up and used it nicely at times
Petracca - midfield oomph

Stock down:
ANB - very scratchy ball use and decision making
Stretch - didn't take the game on enough or deliver well

[binman 44,533]

1 minute ago, Forest Demon said:

I was watching on and off, but did see Vandenberg lay an absolutely beauty of a tackle on Dayne Beams. You could tell it took the wind out of him.

Vdb is a take no prisoners footballer. At one in the last q omac poleaxed a magpies player (not sure who - young player I think) who took a while to recover. When he did finally fully stand up vandersloot bumped into him deliberately.

[Demonland 73,495]

Sparrow will play this year. Perhaps earlier rather than later. 

[BAMF 4,433]

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Did Hore play?

Yep. Played pretty well from my limited viewing. Composed in the back line. Will be keen to see how he goes in JLT.

[The Chazz 4,077]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Pressure really good from both sides.

Apart from the first 10 minutes our pressure was good and structures seemed sound.

Pies were missing their 3 most dangerous forwards in De Goey, Stephenson and WHE, although Elliott makes up for one of those. So the low score from them isn't a huge surprise. That was pretty much 2017 Collingwood we played when they couldn't score.

I was a little disappointed we didn't switch the ball more around half back, we seemed comfortable to bomb it out.

Backline: Frost and Oscar both started very poorly missing chances to kill contests with intercepts or strong punches. Frosty clean missed a few chances to mark and Oscar looked slow. But they got going as the game spread out a bit more and our pressure came up. Jetta excellent. Hibberd solid. Lewis did enough defensively and apart from his trade mark dumb free kicks he played well. Hunt good.

Mids: Gus had it on a string early and his clean hands and tackle pressure was excellent. Tracc then took over. Vanders cracked in. Young Sparrow tagged Treloar in the second half, nice goal and won some ball, probably wasn't as clean with his tackles as I expected. Max dominated, hardly a surprise there. Salem showed his class at times.

Forwards: Pressure was really good. Joel Smith a nice addition in that regard and C Wagner worked hard. Tim Smith did ok. Preussy hit some contests very hard but I wasn't impressed by his positioning, did get on the end of it a few times though. One nice grab and a solid but not spectacular game from Weids. Nice goal from Garlett and good pressure but he made some dreadful errors kicking the ball along the ground and making bad decisions, didn't do enough to convince me he was in any way back.

Stock up:
JKH - really got us going in the first term and was dangerous all game, strong enough at the contest, high work rate
Hunt - no huge runs but opened the game up and used it nicely at times
Petracca - midfield oomph

Stock down:
ANB - very scratchy ball use and decision making
Stretch - didn't take the game on enough or deliver well

Haters are gonna hate.

[Demonland 73,495]

6 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Did Hore play?

Like the way he played. Will get games this year too. 

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

I was impressed with Hore's intercept marks, however he shanked his kicks every time. Nice to see Hunt find some form again with his run and dash, using his strength's and keeping it simple. Big Preussy looking really dangerous down forward with 2 goals but could of kicked 4. 

[DeeSpencer 26,301]

Hore took a couple of nice grabs intercepting and used the ball pretty well, a couple of shanks under pressure but a lovely kick to get us started. 

Didn't look all that great when playing from behind or side to side though, not sure he's got a lot of power and the step up in pace might catch him out at times so it will be interesting to see where he fits.

Looked more like a guy who can do a job than a threat to really break out.

[640MD 3,491]

Lovely walk in the park !

 

I did really love the tackle by OMac and then a short time later by Vanders in the last quarter.

Really hurt their opponents   but legally    OMacs took a few minutes to get away from the trainers  right in front of me   great to see..    Hell there were a lot of collingwood supporters there    GO DEES   on a roll !!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

12 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Did Hore play?

He was pretty good.

[Dr.D 1,771]

Played well:

Gawn

Vanberberg

Oscar McDonald

Hibberd

Salem

T.Smith

Petracca

Joel Smith

 

Who didnt:

- Weideman

- sparrow

 

[DeeSpencer 26,301]

7 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Haters are gonna hate.

Wouldn't hate if he didn't keep making the same mistakes. 

He wasn't alone, Harmes didn't start well and Vanders was pretty fumbly at times, but I thought Corey Wagner and JKH probably used it better than ANB today.

[Demons11 7,097]

56 minutes ago, dieter said:

I haven't been able to watch all of it but I think we have a new Dom Tyson- Stretch. I've seen 3 passes direct to a Collingwood player. PLease!

At least you seem like half glass full type of person.  

Its his first game in 8 or 9 months, give him some breathing room for God’s sake. 

Edited February 22, 2019 by Demons11

[Demonland 73,495]

Some of our kicking into the forward line was off today. Sometimes it was just bombed in and sometimes when they lowered their eyes the ball went it too low.

[Demons11 7,097]

42 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

I like the commentators call that if he found himself ‘in the hole in front of Braydon Preuss he couldn’t run out of it quick enough’. I would do the same

Can they play Gawn, Preuss, TMac, Weeds and J Smith  in the same side? 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Some of our kicking into the forward line was off today. Sometimes it was just bombed in and sometimes when they lowered their eyes the ball went it too low.

That's to be expected though - we were missing some key players, so we would have been out of sync a little.  Not to mention it still being February.  I think the pressure, game plan and giving the players a run is the most important thing.  I'll be worried if it continues though...

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Can they play Gawn, Preuss, TMac, Weeds and J Smith  in the same side? 

I don't think so - I see Joel Smith as depth.  With Preuss, Weids and TMac down there, you add in Melksham, Spargo, Fritsch, Trac and so forth, there isn't room for him unless there is an injury.  Like others, he is terrific depth.

[loges 6,767]

Any comments on the effect of the new rules?

[Demons11 7,097]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

I don't think so - I see Joel Smith as depth.  With Preuss, Weids and TMac down there, you add in Melksham, Spargo, Fritsch, Trac and so forth, there isn't room for him unless there is an injury.  Like others, he is terrific depth.

? I can’t see them playing 2 rucks to be honest.   I think J Smith definitely adds something forward that we don’t have.