The thread for injuries in season 2019 starting with a pre season update.

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Based on reports from training the following players have been rehabbing (this doesn’t suggest anything serious with these players):-

Oskar Baker
Angus Brayshaw
Mitch Hannan
James Harmes
Marty Hore
Jayden Hunt
Neville Jetta
Jake Lever
Oscar McDonald
Jake Melksham
Clayton Oliver
Christian Petracca
Tim Smith
Billy Stretch
Aaron vandenBerg
Jack Viney

Jake Lever is the only player who would be in doubt for a round 1 start.  Injuries (lack of) will be critical to a 2019 premiership opportunity.

We need our stars to stay fit. That’s why Preuss was brought in. We need a fit Maxy G come September.  

Tweet from Mark Stevens @7NewsMelbourne

Can reveal Jake Lever having a procedure on his reconstructed knee today to ease issues with irritation to scar. Been troubling him in recently. Dees stress it is minor and he will be back on track on Monday. Frustrating by-product of surgery. Knee itself fine. 

Oskar Baker - did 2 hammies in the back end of last year, probably just a slow build up
Angus Brayshaw - was in the main group last week but called for the physios a couple of times
Mitch Hannan - think he's had knee problems in both years, had an op
James Harmes - had a shoulder op, seems to be fine
Marty Hore - unsure, but is doing a fair bit in rehab, paired up with Melk
Jayden Hunt - had shoulder surgery, doing a fair bit on the track
Neville Jetta - had knee and shoulder procedures
Jake Lever - knee taking it's time according to Stevo's tweet
Oscar McDonald - unsure?
Jake Melksham - probably just the ankle he carried in the back end of last year, doing plenty
Clayton Oliver - legs look good, obviously hasn't done upper body weights for a while
Christian Petracca - had a knee op
Tim Smith - unsure
Billy Stretch - coming back from stress fracture
Aaron vandenBerg  - had a shoulder op, out running
Jack Viney - had an ankle procedure, doing laps, I expect they'll take him slowly

It's a long list and it's way too talented! 

Lever due to it being a long term injury and Vanders and Viney with their injury histories are the guys I'm worried about. 

Just a rough guess but I think Baker, Brayshaw, Hore, Hunt, Melksham should be good to go soon based on them doing more ball work from what I saw. Clarry seems fine, will just be a matter of when he can resume contact drills. Jetta and Petracca seem paired up and looked ok.

It's not panic stations now but I think we need to have the list back in single figures asap after Christmas and have as many of these guys right to go for the preseason games. If they haven't done enough training to play in the preseason then they're likely playing catch up during the regular season which is a risk of further injuries.

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Oskar Baker - did 2 hammies in the back end of last year, probably just a slow build up
Angus Brayshaw - was in the main group last week but called for the physios a couple of times
Mitch Hannan - think he's had knee problems in both years, had an op
James Harmes - had a shoulder op, seems to be fine
Marty Hore - unsure, but is doing a fair bit in rehab, paired up with Melk
Jayden Hunt - had shoulder surgery, doing a fair bit on the track
Neville Jetta - had knee and shoulder procedures
Jake Lever - knee taking it's time according to Stevo's tweet
Oscar McDonald - unsure?
Jake Melksham - probably just the ankle he carried in the back end of last year, doing plenty
Clayton Oliver - legs look good, obviously hasn't done upper body weights for a while
Christian Petracca - had a knee op
Tim Smith - unsure
Billy Stretch - coming back from stress fracture
Aaron vandenBerg  - had a shoulder op, out running
Jack Viney - had an ankle procedure, doing laps, I expect they'll take him slowly

It's a long list and it's way too talented! 

Lever due to it being a long term injury and Vanders and Viney with their injury histories are the guys I'm worried about. 

Just a rough guess but I think Baker, Brayshaw, Hore, Hunt, Melksham should be good to go soon based on them doing more ball work from what I saw. Clarry seems fine, will just be a matter of when he can resume contact drills. Jetta and Petracca seem paired up and looked ok.

It's not panic stations now but I think we need to have the list back in single figures asap after Christmas and have as many of these guys right to go for the preseason games. If they haven't done enough training to play in the preseason then they're likely playing catch up during the regular season which is a risk of further injuries.

Would love to know how this list compares to other clubs at this stage.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Would love to know how this list compares to other clubs at this stage.

It's certainly more than the average that we've had. Playing deep in to September and a lot of surgeries will do that.

Players consistently in the rehab group last preseason (from what I can recall):

Hannan, Weed, T Smith, J Smith, Garlett, Kent, one or both of the young rucks at times, McKenna + Vanders (both rarely sighted outside running), Viney. 

10 hours ago, Demonland said:

Would love to know how this list compares to other clubs at this stage.

We play bruise-free footy these days!

Here's the comparison with other teams injury lists. 

 

And based on the article from afl.com.au

MFC End of 2018 Injury List

Oskar Baker: Suffered a recurrence of a hamstring injury in September and the Demons are ensuring he has enough conditioning under his belt before starting him in full training.

James Harmes: Another to undergo post-season shoulder surgery. Harmes is running but won't be in contact drills until after Christmas.

Marty Hore: The mature-age draftee had an ankle operation before he was picked by the Demons with pick No.56 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft. He and Melksham have been running laps together.

Neville Jetta: The defender had shoulder surgery in the off-season. Running laps, but won't join in contact work until after Christmas.

Jake Lever: Underwent more surgery on Wednesday after scar tissue around his reconstructed left knee left him in discomfort. Had started running before the setback and is hoping for a mid-year return.

Oscar McDonald: The key defender had a post-season arthroscope on his hip and therefore has been on a modified programme.

Jake Melksham: Melksham had an arthroscope on his ankle at the end of the season and as a result has been in rehab as he builds up his training load slowly.

Clayton Oliver: Had surgery on both of his shoulders and, like many others, won't get into work with the main group until after Christmas. Running and moving well in rehab.

Christian Petracca: Went in for a knee operation at the end of the year and as a result is in the rehab group. Running laps, but won't resume contact work until after getting back from the Christmas break.

Tim Smith: Coming back from a stress fracture in his foot. Smith is running laps and will be eased slowly back in to training.

Billy Stretch: Running laps at decent speed after having surgery on a stress fracture in his toe in July. Will build his training conservatively.

Jack Viney: Had surgery on his troublesome foot at the end of the season and is on a modified program. Will look to build his training post-Christmas.

I put the list in alphabetical order for easier reference. Not included in the list but referred to in recent training reports as being in the “rehab” group are Angus Brayshaw, Mitch Hannan, Jayden Hunt and Aaron vandenBerg who I presume weren’t considered by the reporter as being injured enough to make the list.

The disconcerting thing from my perspective is the par on Jake Lever. Before his latest setback, I thought he would be right to go early in the season but that’s now a “mid-year return”. 

10 of many's best 22 with a very interrupted pre-season. Injury looms as our biggest opponent for the 1st half and maybe all, of 2019.

13 minutes ago, Damo said:

10 of many's best 22 with a very interrupted pre-season. Injury looms as our biggest opponent for the 1st half and maybe all, of 2019.

It's not interrupted, most are running, it is just contact and match sim they are missing, they are all doing a bit of craft work

 Crossy and the rest have rehab down pat now, as per Viney last year

Is it not 1st year players either, most have had a couple of pre seasons under their belt, expect most  to be ready to go post Xmas

Maybe only Lever and Tim Smith (foot injury) the only 2 delayed

I dont post much. You have incorrectly replied or taken out of context my last 2 posts. Please refrain. I dont need you to "stick up" for the club on any of my observations. I don't rate your reports and its is not that you disagree with my posts,  it is that you make out I said something I didn't.

For the record,i) I didn't bag Garlett although I was ignoring you,  ii)I am quite sure the players I have referred to are experiencing an interrupted preseason (your inability to notice this is a giveaway to your knowledge) and iii) I made no reference at all to 1st year players.

And if you are going to reply again please dont bloke me. Bloke is not a pronoun.

Add Goody to the list. Tweaked a hammy playing vets cricket this arvo. Not bad at cricketing,

7 minutes ago, Samael said:

Add Goody to the list. Tweaked a hammy playing vets cricket this arvo. Not bad at cricketing,

Whos he having a hit for Samael?

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Whos he having a hit for Samael?

Hopefully Australia.

4 hours ago, Damo said:

I dont post much. You have incorrectly replied or taken out of context my last 2 posts. Please refrain. I dont need you to "stick up" for the club on any of my observations. I don't rate your reports and its is not that you disagree with my posts,  it is that you make out I said something I didn't.

For the record,i) I didn't bag Garlett although I was ignoring you,  ii)I am quite sure the players I have referred to are experiencing an interrupted preseason (your inability to notice this is a giveaway to your knowledge) and iii) I made no reference at all to 1st year players.

And if you are going to reply again please dont bloke me. Bloke is not a pronoun.

No actually get my information and opinion on how they are going from the players and the fitness staff, although I keep some of the information to myself, so mine was an opinion similar to yours

I was saying with them not being 1st year players they have a fitness base

On you valuing my reporting, as if I care bloke

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

.... they are all doing a bit of craft work

Saty can you please explain what craft work is?

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's not interrupted, most are running, it is just contact and match sim they are missing, they are all doing a bit of craft work

 Crossy and the rest have rehab down pat now, as per Viney last year

Is it not 1st year players either, most have had a couple of pre seasons under their belt, expect most  to be ready to go post Xmas

Maybe only Lever and Tim Smith (foot injury) the only 2 delayed

Right, so footy then? ?

Let's hope these players on modified programs can step it up post-Christmas. I'm not worried so much now as it is quite usual for players to be eased back into pre-season before Christmas with mostly running drills, but I'd be concerned if the rehab group doesn't shrink significantly by then. Let's see!

Thanks for the reports btw

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Whos he having a hit for Samael?

STC Sth Camberwell vets. Over 40s. Made 40 odd and had to retire, Did his hammy bowling

 

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

most are running, it is just contact and match sim they are missing, 

Amazing.

You've just defined the term 'interrupted pre-season'. 

Edited December 9, 20186 yr by stevethemanjordan

If you're not doing contact or match sim work because of recovery from injury then it's an interrupted preseason. Simples.

Edited December 9, 20186 yr by Moonshadow

3 hours ago, Meggs said:

Saty can you please explain what craft work is?

I’m keen to answer this for you but will wait with anticipation for a more precise breakdown. 

My understanding is omac is rehabbing from back pain.

From carrying the backline for the last two years. 

1 minute ago, binman said:

My understanding is omac is rehabbing from back pain.

From carrying the backline for the last two years. 

Don't peak too early @binman.  It's only December!