12 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Yep.  We don't need to be giving the reigning premier any advantage, would rather we play St Kilda or Carlton tbh.

Doesn't feel right that we are virtually selling our home game against the team that knocked us out in the prelim.

We would be looking to maximise profit by playing teams that are well supported in the NT. The WA and SA teams, particularly Crows and Eagles, ensure a full house. A Melbourne v St Kilda game would be awful.

Just now, McQueen said:

That's your off-season MFCSS kicking in.

Back on your meds.

It could have been worse. I could have proposed the Easter Monday conspiracy.

2 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Oh and on mmm this morning they said the Queens birthday game will be the pies home game.  

Surely not...if that's then case, then a home game against Essendon (for once), or at least a second game against Collingwood and Richmond.

10 minutes ago, praha said:

Surely not...if that's then case, then a home game against Essendon (for once), or at least a second game against Collingwood and Richmond.

We will not get a home game against Essendon because they don't have a sufficient clash strip to pass the AFL's clash test.

11 minutes ago, praha said:

We would be looking to maximise profit by playing teams that are well supported in the NT. The WA and SA teams, particularly Crows and Eagles, ensure a full house. A Melbourne v St Kilda game would be awful.

the Darwin and Alice grounds have a capacity of around 12 and 6k respectively so I doubt that crowd numbers  drive the dollar return.

It is just so disappointing that we have saddled ourselves with this five year impediment without looking at alternatives. Even if you equate the money to two game points on average per year the incremental loss from the reduction in ladder position and associated returns makes it a line ball decision.

Did the club ever consider a membership levy for example... ten dollars per member or say a levy on blockbusters. Given the money people were willing to fork out on the GF tickets ballot that we never needed don't tell me members couldn't afford the extra $10 each season.

Did we look at playing at Mildura and having the State government fund a game a la the Bulldogs at Ballarat. How about playing in rural SA or WA and getting money from their State governments.

And of course why not just say it's Alice only to the NT government.

So many alternatives and in reality so little discussion. Commercial in confidence.... from whom... don't see many competitors lining up to take the "hot dollar."

 

6 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

No matter what the fixture is someone will complain, just shut up about going to the NT. We will be going there twice every year for the next 5 at least, and we will get a few 6 day breaks that does not matter, unless we get 3 in a row the team always loses the  third game. 

The NT helped us recover financially and imo now we are decent we should support the NT.  We should have an advantage up there by now.  We've played it enough.

I can't see why the geniuses at the AFL can't arrange a fixture with no more than one 6 day break in a row.  Two in a row starts to hurt teams.  This year Collingwood, Port, Adelaide, and Sydney had back to back 6 day breaks.  Adelaide and Collingwood had bad soft tissue injuries.  Port ended up cooked. Three 6 day breaks in a row kills seasons and should never happen (ie us in 2017).  It's why we should have opened on Friday night.

7 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

The NT helped us recover financially and imo now we are decent we should support the NT.  We should have an advantage up there by now.  We've played it enough.

I can't see why the geniuses at the AFL can't arrange a fixture with no more than one 6 day break in a row.  Two in a row starts to hurt teams.  This year Collingwood, Port, Adelaide, and Sydney had back to back 6 day breaks.  Adelaide and Collingwood had bad soft tissue injuries.  Port ended up cooked. Three 6 day breaks in a row kills seasons and should never happen (ie us in 2017).  It's why we should have opened on Friday night.

Agree. NT has been good for us financially and last year even better winning both games. Correct me if I'm wrong but West Coast have never played at Alice so I take that as an advantage for us.

After years in the wilderness and crap fixtures we’re back, playing (arguably) the best brand of attacking footy and have a team with characters who genuinely entertain.

So it’s time for the AFL to give us the fixture we deserve and have earned. 

????

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

They are also up there on my short list of clubs that probably bitched and complained about the draw forcing the AFL to bend over and redo the fixture.

Bingo

On the NT games i had thought bubble. Would it possible to play those games back to back?

Say fly to the Alice on the Friday, play Saturday, then spend the week in the NT before playing in Darwin the following Saturday. Use Alice as training base and do all the community stuff during the week between games. 

i understand routine is super important and there would be logistical challenges but they exist for both games already. And in terms of routine they fly up on the Wednesday or Thursday i think to do community stuff so they already a it out of wack. 

Might help with recovery as less travel would be required and could be pumped up in the NT as the Demon week. 

Edited October 31, 20186 yr by binman

In regards to the Essendon game, I would have a home game and wear our clash jumper than have it as their home game, every freaking year. It may even sell more clash jumpers for more cash, but the income that game would generate would be a massive boost.

For the Collingwood QB home game, I'd be looking into what we gave up to the Pies to have it as our home game each year, and make sure whatever that was (can't recall) is also reversed. Does anyone remember 'the deal'?

I'd also love to know exactly what Essendon did this year to be talked about in the same breath as us?

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

WTF?

Looks like we're playing a Saturday game (and Tiges for that matter) and then need to back it up on the Wednesday for Anzac eve but the Pies and Bombers have been given extra 1 and 2 days recovery time for their Anzac day game..

I was certain we'd get a Friday game this round but I guess you've got to wear it every now and then if you want an Anzac fixture.

I think we will be the last game of the Easter Round, rather than the first game of the Anzac round.  

19 minutes ago, binman said:

On the NT games i had thought bubble. Would it possible to play those games back to back?

Say fly to the Alice on the Friday, play Saturday, then spend the week in the NT before playing in Darwin the following Saturday. Use Alice as training base and do all the community stuff during the week between games. 

i understand routine is super important and there would be logistical challenges but they exist for both games already. And in terms of routine they fly up on the Wednesday or Thursday i think to do community stuff so they already a it out of wack. 

Might help with recovery as less travel would be required and could be pumped up in the NT as the Demon week. 

makes sense and you could follow it with the bye.

The problems I see are accommodation costs etc (not insurmountable but not chicken feed) and more importantly the absence from the MFC home market for a three week period. If we could guarantee good FTA coverage back in Melbourne this impact could be minimised.

Technically it would be two home games in a row which would then be followed by the bye and an away game (which one would hope would be in Melbourne) .. so you could go four weeks without a Melbourne based home game.

BTW who gets the money from the attendance of MFC members at the so called make up games?

30 minutes ago, binman said:

On the NT games i had thought bubble. Would it possible to play those games back to back?

Say fly to the Alice on the Friday, play Saturday, then spend the week in the NT before playing in Darwin the following Saturday. Use Alice as training base and do all the community stuff during the week between games. 

i understand routine is super important and there would be logistical challenges but they exist for both games already. And in terms of routine they fly up on the Wednesday or Thursday i think to do community stuff so they already a it out of wack. 

Might help with recovery as less travel would be required and could be pumped up in the NT as the Demon week. 

If we have to play two games I would prefer this scenario.

28 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I'd also love to know exactly what Essendon did this year to be talked about in the same breath as us?

The AFL will promote them to the death.   They want everyone to forget they are drug cheats.

Not happening.

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

It could have been worse. I could have proposed the Easter Monday conspiracy.

True MFCSS would claim Richmond play on the Saturday and Melbourne get the special new Easter Monday twilight spot.

Seems Pies are home team for QB next year, alternating after that, says Tom Browne on Twitter.

Pies also getting the most Friday night games.

Edited October 31, 20186 yr by Clintosaurus

12 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Seems Pies are home team for QB next year, alternating after that, 

I would've thought one of Pert's first gigs on the job would've been to ensure we keep Q'bday as our home game until the following season.

We're already missing out on a ton of gate receipts as the away team on Anzac Eve.

Perhaps we have some blockbuster home Friday night games to offset the Queens Birthday loss of revenue??

if it's true that qb is the pies' home game in 2019, then we are looking at a big, big financial hole in 2019 with our two 'feature' games both being away contests

53 minutes ago, deeology said:

True MFCSS would claim Richmond play on the Saturday and Melbourne get the special new Easter Monday twilight spot.

Stage 5 MFCSS sufferers are living in fear of an Easter Monday night game with the later 7:50pm start.

20 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

if it's true that qb is the pies' home game in 2019, then we are looking at a big, big financial hole in 2019 with our two 'feature' games both being away contests

I dont mind it as long as at years end the teams with smaller membership bases and therefore crowds get money from a pool that the richer clubs contribute to. 

This is the only time you will ever see me advocate for something resembling socialism.

I want to be playing the Pies twice, with the other one on Friday night. A Friday night home game v Essendon would be nice too.

The AFL let it be known that MFC would be getting a bigger share of Friday night games next year, but the only 2 we are so far aware of, are both away games. I can see it now, 3 more Friday night games against interstate teams. Lock it in Eddie.

Its going to take some very sweet fixturing for us to have a decent year revenue-wise with our 2 biggest games making us nothing.

At the very least we have earned a prime-time home game against Essendrug. Its time for others to fill the Sunday arvo slots.

 

35 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Stage 5 MFCSS sufferers are living in fear of an Easter Monday night game with the later 7:50pm start.

Don't want to detract from the  huge Cats vs Hawks game so best with a late start, against Freo, in Perth.