6 minutes ago, Ash35 said:

Can get the fumbles, and can butcher it a bit.

But has real pace and knows where the goals are.

Would give you more than the likes of Stretch and Kent.

Probably needs a change of club to get the best out of him, a la Melksham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_cXU0Io_4

Check the time of the game and the match score when Colyer kicks his goal.

ASH!!! You’re back!

 

Welcome back.

18 minutes ago, Ash35 said:

Can get the fumbles, and can butcher it a bit.

But has real pace and knows where the goals are.

Would give you more than the likes of Stretch and Kent.

Probably needs a change of club to get the best out of him, a la Melksham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_cXU0Io_4

Check the time of the game and the match score when Colyer kicks his goal.

Couldn't disagree more with this sentence. Colyer has been around for a decade in a team that has barely played finals and shown himself to be a depth player only. We've moved on all our depth players from a decade ago.

Stretch & Kent are both still young, and I wouldn't at all be suprised to see Stretch have the year next year that Harmes did this year. He could still become our gun outside mid.

All that aside, if the price for Colyer was nothing more then a future 4th Round Pick, then I wouldn't be against taking him as depth on a 1 year deal given we may have 12 spots to fill.

Edited October 4, 20187 yr by MadAsHell

Give Goody some credit please - he will know whether it's worthwhile taking Colyer or not and if he wants him so be it - he does have a couple of credits already in knowing which Bombers to take.

In theory the switch for Tyson is a good one - I just hope we get a little more in return - ie: they don't have a third rounder so a switch of second round picks - we get 31 and they get 33 would seem pretty fair.

Is more a wing link man than a pressure half forward/goal sneak. Hence can carry and has pace (granted little fellas always look quicker than they are) but as mentioned is a butcher by foot. However would I prefer Colyer on a wing to Tyson..........yes.

4 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

Couldn't disagree more with this sentence. Colyer has been around for a decade in a team that has barely played finals and shown himself to be a depth player only. We've moved on all our depth players from a decade ago.

Stretch & Kent are both still young, and I wouldn't at all be suprised to see Stretch have the year next year that Harmes did this year. He could still become our gun outside mid.

All that aside, if the price for Colyer was nothing more then a future 4th Round Pick, then I wouldn't be against taking him as depth on a 1 year deal given we may have 12 spots to fill.

I don't see Stretch ever becoming an impactful AFL footballer.

I reckon Colyer is on the trade table, so if Goodwin wants him, you'll most likely get him. I'd be surprised if a future 4th round pick does it though.

5 hours ago, Ash35 said:

I don't see Stretch ever becoming an impactful AFL footballer.

I reckon Colyer is on the trade table, so if Goodwin wants him, you'll most likely get him. I'd be surprised if a future 4th round pick does it though.

I've said the same thing for a long time re. Stretch. But I was ready to withdraw that opinion and return to an open mind after his later-season performance this year vs. Freo. Played with poise and purpose and provided a missing link with clean skills on a slippery day.

Curious if you caught it Ash - although I certainly wouldn't blame you if you didn't. ? It was enough to force a rethink, and I can't say the same for any of JKH's appearances this year. My knock on Stretch was positioning and movement from the packs and slow decision-making. 

These are areas where a player can improve. 

5 hours ago, Ash35 said:

I don't see Stretch ever becoming an impactful AFL footballer.

I reckon Colyer is on the trade table, so if Goodwin wants him, you'll most likely get him. I'd be surprised if a future 4th round pick does it though.

I've said the same thing for a long time re. Stretch. But I was ready to withdraw that opinion and return to an open mind after his later-season performance this year vs. Freo. Played with poise and purpose and provided a missing link with clean skills on a slippery day.

Curious if you caught it Ash - although I certainly wouldn't blame you if you didn't. ? It was enough to force a rethink, and I can't say the same for any of JKH's appearances this year. My knock on Stretch was positioning and movement from the packs and slow decision-making. 

These are areas where a player can improve. 

Prepared to give Goodwin the benefit of the doubt on Essendon players who were there when he was.

7 hours ago, Skuit said:

I've said the same thing for a long time re. Stretch. But I was ready to withdraw that opinion and return to an open mind after his later-season performance this year vs. Freo. Played with poise and purpose and provided a missing link with clean skills on a slippery day.

Curious if you caught it Ash - although I certainly wouldn't blame you if you didn't. ? It was enough to force a rethink, and I can't say the same for any of JKH's appearances this year. My knock on Stretch was positioning and movement from the packs and slow decision-making. 

These are areas where a player can improve. 

Yeah, I watched that game on tv with my daughters. Alice Springs game wasn't it?

I know this is a Colyer thread, so won't linger on Billy Stretch for too long, but I feel 2019 is a make or break season for him.

Needs to establish himself in the side in what will be his 5th season perhaps(?).

Anyway, like a few have mentioned, if Goodwin is keen, trust that Colyer can give you something.

Essendon won't be asking for the world for him, so could well be a handy pick up.

I'm not sure how many on here were that enthused when Melbourne traded for Melksham, and that has worked out quite well for the Dees.

We were all probably a bit dubious about Pig and Milkshake as pickups.

Would we be without them today ? Nupp 

Maybe fresh start with a known mentor might reap dividends.

I have no real idea. 

Tis a curiosity...

Wouldn't cost much....lots of lockers to fill...

 

Edited October 5, 20187 yr by beelzebub

28 minutes ago, Ash35 said:

Yeah, I watched that game on tv with my daughters. Alice Springs game wasn't it?

I know this is a Colyer thread, so won't linger on Billy Stretch for too long, but I feel 2019 is a make or break season for him.

Needs to establish himself in the side in what will be his 5th season perhaps(?).

Anyway, like a few have mentioned, if Goodwin is keen, trust that Colyer can give you something.

Essendon won't be asking for the world for him, so could well be a handy pick up.

I'm not sure how many on here were that enthused when Melbourne traded for Melksham, and that has worked out quite well for the Dees.

our thoughts on melk at the time were also overlaid with the impending risk of asada suspension hanging over his head (which did eventuate)

i got mixed info re his worth from essendon relos/friends. some i valued thought he would be a good pickup esp with a new start

so yeah, the net results by many here were quite mixed

47 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

our thoughts on melk at the time were also overlaid with the impending risk of asada suspension hanging over his head (which did eventuate)

i got mixed info re his worth from essendon relos/friends. some i valued thought he would be a good pickup esp with a new start

so yeah, the net results by many here were quite mixed

Nah, I just thought he was a turnover merchant. I was completely wrong. What a move by the FD and Goody. I'll back them in again here.

On 10/4/2018 at 9:49 AM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

I’d rather put some more development into Hunt and Stretch as ‘Line Breakers’

Betcha. Ideal types.

Colyer. Um Ah Nooo!!  Butchers the footy. Godfrey reincarnation 

19 hours ago, Ash35 said:

Can get the fumbles, and can butcher it a bit.

But has real pace and knows where the goals are.

Would give you more than the likes of Stretch and Kent.

Probably needs a change of club to get the best out of him, a la Melksham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_cXU0Io_4

Check the time of the game and the match score when Colyer kicks his goal.

That's why he played 22 games and amongst the best a bit

I was mortified when we took Milkshake. I was wrong. 

Goody would know him well. If he costs us little, we have nothing to lose. Experienced player with dash. We need to replenish the list. 

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Colyer. Um Ah Nooo!!  Butchers the footy. Godfrey reincarnation 

Godfrey was an extremely hard runner...under-rated for his work ethic.    If we had more gut runners we may have been better, and he may have accomplished more, because of it.

He... was ahead of the game style curve, and in a team that could not develop its list, for love, nor money.

8 hours ago, Jaded said:

I was mortified when we took Milkshake. I was wrong. 

Goody would know him well. If he costs us little, we have nothing to lose. Experienced player with dash. We need to replenish the list. 

This.

Goody is 2/2 on the ex Essendrug boys.  If Colyer can make it 3, we will be cooking.

#trustgoodwin

23 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

This.

Goody is 2/2 on the ex Essendrug boys.  If Colyer can make it 3, we will be cooking.

#trustgoodwin

2/2? well he failed on hurley

Funny how a recruiting suggestion of Zaharakis is ridiculed last year with the label of "too soft", then when a more substantial rumour about Goody chasing Colyer pops up, everyone jumps on board.

5 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

Funny how a recruiting suggestion of Zaharakis is ridiculed last year with the label of "too soft", then when a more substantial rumour about Goody chasing Colyer pops up, everyone jumps on board.

I liked Colyer in his draft year, as much as $cullee.

His run-dash through the middle, with his elusiveness, is beneficial... and I think he would aid Spargo as well, and deWeide.

We can work on his delivery.

14 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

2/2? well he failed on hurley

Eh?

Colyer reminds me of Ben Kennedy not enough tricks for mine No from me.

12 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Colyer reminds me of Ben Kennedy not enough tricks for mine No from me.

He's got the main trick.  Run & carry with speed, thru traffic... transition.   It's a plus, on what we have.

Remember, if we ended up with a U18 small player... he will take some time.  Colyer allows us the time to develop the young player.