junk 342 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Hoping Jay gets a spot on a Dees list,C.Wagner also a chance. I would like see us Billy Hartung for his speed. Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, MadAsHell said: Please feel free to list all the experts who had Fritsch in the top 40. I mean you're welcome to shoot from the hip like that, but it works better if you have something to back it up. That's just my point, these so called "experts" don't have too much of a clue either, as no-one can predict the future (if they did, then there'd be no gems from late in the draft and tonnes of success stories from early on). It is still very much a gamble, which is why i find it odd just how valuable some clubs place value on high picks. Give me trades of good player's of a known quantity over an unknown (albeit highly rated) quantity any day of the week. Quote
Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,681 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Is this the guy with dreadlocks who completely disappeared in the VFL finals? Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 Jay Lockhart is the 178cm Tasmanian who joined Casey in 2018. Impressed more and more as a solid small defender with good skills and decision making. Would be very handy backup to Jetta. Pick 62, 91 or rookie. 2 Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted October 19, 2018 Author Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said: That's just my point, these so called "experts" don't have too much of a clue either, as no-one can predict the future (if they did, then there'd be no gems from late in the draft and tonnes of success stories from early on). It is still very much a gamble, which is why i find it odd just how valuable some clubs place value on high picks. Give me trades of good player's of a known quantity over an unknown (albeit highly rated) quantity any day of the week. We're essentially in agreement then, as that too is also my point. While some clubs/people may rate a certain player (Lockhart for example) around Pick 60, us and some other clubs may see him around Pick 25. What I do know is that Rawlings rates him very highly. 20 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said: Is this the guy with dreadlocks who completely disappeared in the VFL finals? You're thinking of Hutchins. Edited October 19, 2018 by MadAsHell 3 Quote
Pink Freud 378 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: I'll be extremely disappointed if we take him at pick 28. Unless it was pick 28 in the rookie draft. 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 7:55 PM, DeeSpencer said: Different types of players. Johnstone is more defensive and contested, Lockhart plays higher up the ground and gets more of the ball. No issue having 2 smaller defenders developing on the list if they are both wanted. We've got the list spots to balance the list with a number of needs type picks but also to take some developmental prospects no matter what position they play. The luxury position is that both Johnstone and Lockhart are kept, developed, exposed. Immense value for Casey, potential value for the big league team in the near future. Several roles may well exist for both, in both teams - both tough at the football. Quote
old55 23,864 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said: The luxury position is that both Johnstone and Lockhart are kept, developed, exposed. Immense value for Casey, potential value for the big league team in the near future. Several roles may well exist for both, in both teams - both tough at the football. Dion Johnstone was delisted. Quote
BAMF 4,485 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Fifty-5 said: Dion Johnstone was delisted. I think a few people in here think that we will pick him up on the rookie list. Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted October 19, 2018 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Fifty-5 said: Dion Johnstone was delisted. 3 minutes ago, BAMF said: I think a few people in here think that we will pick him up on the rookie list. Well he certainly was delisted at an odd time just before trade week and adding to a long list. I’m struggling to get a read on what we are going to do with the last few on the list... 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Lockhart will get a late draft call up or rookie chance. Dees could use pick 91 (probably be 83-85 after other teams use picks for academy and father/son point needs) or a rookie pick for Lockhart. Quote
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Jay Lockhart has more tricks than Dion Johnstone. Jay can do the mercurial at VFL level and has a classy left foot. He will be on an AFL list after the drafts. Quote
Redleg 42,177 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 8:28 AM, rpfc said: I’m struggling to get a read on what we are going to do with the last few on the list... Just as Taylor would want. 1 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 The fact he went missing in finals made his draft stocks plummet, rookie for me. Quote
BAMF 4,485 Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Elegt said: The fact he went missing in finals made his draft stocks plummet, rookie for me. Wasn't that Hutchings who went missing? Did Lockhart go missing too? Quote
Theo 277 Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 Lockhart had no impact whatsoever. Very disappointing in the finals. Quote
Elegt 872 Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 in fact hes really not the type of player we need, will get drafted but not to melbourne I reckon Quote
Demon trucker 1,800 Posted November 9, 2018 Posted November 9, 2018 In a strong draft no way will he go in the top 60, last years draft was a every even draft, if we use either second round pick that's not something taylor would do, that's what BP would do, like picking gysberts when he would still have been available in the second round. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 Lockhart is probably pick 85-90 or rookie selection. Quote
Redleg 42,177 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Lockhart is probably pick 85-90 or rookie selection. At best. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 10, 2018 Posted November 10, 2018 Again mentioned as likely draftee. AFL website article lists Lockhart and Corey Wagner. Both has excellent year at Casey. 1 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Thoughts on Lockhart not getting drafted? I personally think he was worth a late rookie pick and think he has more potential than corey wagner but interested in others opinions Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Elegt said: Thoughts on Lockhart not getting drafted? I personally think he was worth a late rookie pick and think he has more potential than corey wagner but interested in others opinions I think his finals performances hurt him. Really had no impact whatsoever while Wagner was consistent all year. 1 Quote
Drunkn167 5,093 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Really surprised Jay didn’t get rookied, he probably tired out towards the end of the season but some of the games he played this year were outstanding. Hopefully another year developing in the VFL will do him good and he gets a shot at it. 5 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Yes hopefully Lockhart stays at Casey Demons for 2019 season and shows he is worthy of an AFL chance. He was very unlucky imo. 1 Quote
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