Farewell Jesse Hogan

[dworship 3,342]

48 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

Just remind me of your address again Gorgoroth. I will bring a worthy single malt and a small glass.?

F the small glass

[binman 42,896]

Just now, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

All could have been pursued and agreed behind closed doors and then announced once complete

How it was put into the public domain without being a done deal was Mahoney's choice 

You can't be serious. Mahoney could not have played it anymore on the down low if he tried. Basically said nothing publically except our non negotiable is two first round picks. Which, by the way was a public statement of how highly we rate jessie.

For christ sake jessie 'toured their facility'. How could he keep freos interest out of the public domain?

[old55 23,546]

6 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

All could have been pursued and agreed behind closed doors and then announced once complete

How it was put into the public domain without being a done deal was Mahoney's choice (or loose lips from Jones and co maybe forced his hand)

Just saying, if this outcome was a strong possibility then the deal wouldn't have been considered as it is a severe let down to Jesse

Umm Greg Denham announced it was on weeks ago.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,775]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

Sorry GYM can't have this. If anything our reputation is enhanced.

We made it abundantly clear what was required to get the deal done and didn't play any silly games. Rock solid. No leaks and no stupid posturing. In short, honest. A good club to deal with.

Freo on the other hand clearly leaked stuff to the media and allowed silly stories to get legs. Then walked back on a commitment to jessie by low balling him. A [censored] club to deal with.

One thing I am really hating is the borderline character assassination of jessie. He's our player. Get the [censored] around him.

 

I agree with your points, which I think describe how we handled the situation after it was made public

What I'm saying is that the result is a fail we would have wished to avoid, and I think there'll be lingering consequences for us into 2019, the least of which will be constant media focus/distraction and added pressure on a guy who'd prefer to avoid the spotlight

[binman 42,896]

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

I agree with your points, which I think describe how we handled the situation after it was made public

What I'm saying is that the result is a fail we would have wished to avoid, and I think there'll be lingering consequences for us into 2019, the least of which will be constant media focus/distraction and added pressure on a guy who'd prefer to avoid the spotlight

But surely you understand we could not have prevented it becoming public? If for no other reason the MFC is only one of many 'actors' in this drama.

[Deespicable 2,726]

You have to factor in that Ross Lyon was on a hiding to nothing if he took another player with off-field issues and if it backfired as it did for him with Lovett, Sylvia and Bennell, it was bye-bye Ross.

 

I was hoping that we would nail a deal for Andrew Brayshaw and pick 11 (onpassed for May) and have given them our future second rounder in return which I felt was pretty fair, but alas it ain't happening. 

The only good thing is that Jesse clearly knows (as Dusty found out a few years ago), that the interest in damaged off-field goods is not high. Maybe as Dusty did to devastating effect, he will knuckle down and try to show he really is deserving of another top-end contract with us. He has the talent. It's just the application.

If he doesn't figure life out, then he might as well be Jack Potts next season, just waiting to be released for a second rounder at season's end. 

Hopefully though we can still do a second round deal with the Suns for KK as he was a ripper and it's worth a shot to see if we can right him and maybe if they decide they really don't care too much about May, they will accept our No.1 pick next season for him.

Edited October 12, 2018 by Grapeviney
Rumours removed

[dworship 3,342]

26 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

This situation is a massive fail on behalf of the MFC. We've publicly shopped an A grade player and it has ended in any embarrassing debacle and given air time to so called personal 'issues' in the public arena.

While it may seem fine now as Bell and Co are publicly shamed as the cause, I imagine Jesse can't be happy and I suspect consequences of this mess to linger into 2019 for the MFC.

 

25 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Ha ha, when we win the flag, those of us who appreciate the greatness of whisky should get together at a whisky bar.

I know a place in Queenscliff

[dworship 3,342]

22 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Seriously? Link?

Sorry, but a change in name to Muppet is starting to look appropriate.

 

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

4 minutes ago, dworship said:

 

I know a place in Queenscliff

Say hi to the Qcliff Brewhouse and upstairs for me @dworship

[DemonLad5 1,642]

Hate to be somewhat of a bubble burster, but if we all really valued and rated Hogan, we’d all be celebrating from this outcome 

instead we’re all bashing Freo 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,775]

12 hours ago, binman said:

But surely you understand we could not have prevented it becoming public? If for no other reason the MFC is only one of many 'actors' in this drama.

Of course, I'm not saying that at all

But Freo low balling and then pulling out is something we clearly didn't forsee when we publicly started discussing the possibility of Jesse leaving.

If we had then surely we would have played things differently and trotted out the "required player, under contract, has not officially requested a trade" lines publicly until an appropriate offer was made/accepted.

Anyhow, after [censored] everyone off, my main point is that I don't think it'll be plain sailing/happy camping for 2019 after all this.

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

Hate to be somewhat of a bubble burster, but if we all really valued and rated Hogan, we’d all be celebrating from this outcome 

instead we’re all bashing Freo 

If this was 9pm on Wednesday I would be.

[Lord Neville X Flash 281]

really happy the boys at the dees supported jesse throughout this whole ordeal. 

If jones and co. had acted the way tex walker acted when Lever wanted to leave then we would be f'ed. But jesse can come back to the dees and we will wrap our arms around him. That's the culture of this club now, a culture we can be proud of. 

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

5 and 23 is a credit to our football department for their willingness to take unders in order to satisfy Hogan's desire to return home. It sounds like we did all we could on our end. We put Hogan's wishes ahead of the clubs needs. When contract time comes we can only hope Jesse factors that gesture in. 

I highly doubt we would take Picks 5 & 23 for Hoges...  if any semblance of truth, I think something else attached... like Ed Langdon, or other player... Plus we have to add on another later pick for Freo, to balance out some sort of deal.

[dworship 3,342]

18 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

I agree with your points, which I think describe how we handled the situation after it was made public

What I'm saying is that the result is a fail we would have wished to avoid, and I think there'll be lingering consequences for us into 2019, the least of which will be constant media focus/distraction and added pressure on a guy who'd prefer to avoid the spotlight

 

5 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Say hi to the Qcliff Brewhouse and upstairs for me @dworship

We have a winner!! Beers are good downstairs but the Whisky Master upstairs knows his spirits.

I don't want to deter anyone but Mrs Worship was impressed with the 60 or so varieties of Gin and the 80 odd Vodkas as well

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

3 minutes ago, dworship said:

 

We have a winner!! Beers are good downstairs but the Whisky Master upstairs knows his spirits.

I don't want to deter anyone but Mrs Worship was impressed with the 60 or so varieties of Gin and the 80 odd Vodkas as well

Yeah I need to go there. 

[ShaneJ 88]

9 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I highly doubt we would take Picks 5 & 23 for Hoges...  if any semblance of truth, I think something else attached... like Ed Langdon, or other player... Plus we have to add on another later pick for Freo, to balance out some sort of deal.

They have it on the front of SEN website that we would have taken pick 6 and a future second rounder. Ridiculous, but I believe it. If it were enough to get May I think that was all they cared about.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

Just be patient guys. This will work itself out, couldn’t be surer that Hogan will be wearing purple next year 

[TGR 1,367]

Freo bluffing?

This has a long way to go till Wednesday.

[Demonsone 2,037]

So after the dust has settled... how is hogan managed? Is he mentally committed? Does club need to offer long term deal? 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

2 hours ago, Dee tention said:

Nobody is going to want too deal with these pricks! And players won’t want to go there... Someone in purple is trying to be a hard arse pumping his chest! 

If that’s you Peter Bell it ain’t working! You need to take your cape off and suffocate yourself immediately!

 

 

[layzie 33,793]

It’s a bit late in the piece to be calling our bluff tough. 

[whitito 187]

I simply don’t understand why many on here are so nonchalant about a flat out 50 plus goal kicker potentially leaving. 

 

This is kid can play.

The draft picks might.....

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

450 by Monday morning and 697 by trade deadline

I personally like a scotch finger with an espresso or an earl grey

Edited October 12, 2018 by Engorged Onion

[DV8 2,271]

9 minutes ago, ShaneJ said:

They have it on the front of SEN website that we would have taken pick 6 and a future second rounder. Ridiculous, but I believe it. If it were enough to get May I think that was all they cared about.

Oh, I hadn't seen that, So it must be true then,  if SEN has it up as Godspell.

 

Never ever doubt SEN...  or they'l come and hide-out in your Wheelie-Bin out front... and haunt your house for you, whilst you sleep.!

 

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Edited October 12, 2018 by DV8