Farewell Jesse Hogan

[beelzebub 23,383]

Every market is different. This is 2018...it'll be different to others as they are to this. 

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

3 minutes ago, olisik said:

Most of that was after the trade. Same way Hogan will also go into be an AA Coleman medalist, Premiership player ect after this trade. 

No, need to correct you there. Judd had ALL of those decorations on his CV before the trade to Carlton. 

Give up on this one mate.

[old55 23,687]

Too much assumption in this thread Freo can get Ports picks.  Freo's best pick will be 5 and Lukosius and Rankine are tipped to go earlier at GC 2 or 3, Saints 4.

[Winter Dan 470]

A top 5  pick I'd give a 1 in 4 chance of being a star, 4 in 5 chance of being a quality player. 

There are a hell of a lot of top 10 picks who are just good players, nothing too special.

Hogan is a star - for a 23 year old. Will be unstoppable when he's 25-28. Unstoppable!

Hogan in 3 years time... stop and consider this for a moment.

He is a generational player, a young guy who's had a heap of off field stuff to deal with - and yet - what a contribution.

Think I would prefer to keep him.

Feel pretty confident the FD know his value.

[old55 23,687]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Call me what you want but if we accept pick 4 by itself for Hogan then hand that over for May I won’t buy my regular three memberships next year. That said I seriously can’t see that scenario happening, it is just that ridiculous to me. 

Totally shiit attitude.

Hysterical premature lachrymation.

#ETjellyfish

[Lucifers Hero 40,363]

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

Totally shiit attitude.

Hysterical premature lachrymation.

#ETjellyfish

Can't wait for ET's response! ?

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Deal with another suitor. 

Thats difficult when the only other team just won the premiership and has pick 18

Who said there are the only 2...  have you spoken to the clubs? 

If it was 2019, I'm sure there would be many more than 2 suitors.

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Edited October 3, 2018 by DV8

[DV8 2,271]

33 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

4 & 5 is too high for Hogan. Freo will strongly consider taking those picks to the super draft if we refuse to budge on that opening gambit.

Well, they're welcome to them, then.

Tell Ross, take his Cow to market then.   They're may be some more Magic beans ahead of him.

 

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[Ethan Tremblay 30,967]

15 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Totally shiit attitude.

Hysterical premature lachrymation.

#ETjellyfish

I’ve been called a lot of things in my life but a premature lachrymator is below the belt. 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Demons11 7,051]

6 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Who said they are the only 2...  have you spoken to the clubs? 

If it was 2019, I'm sure there would be many more than 2 suitors.

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The fact he wants to go back to Perth tells me there is only 2 clubs that can acquire him unless we are looking to trade him to the WAFL

[olisik 4,060]

Gold Coast would have more Cap space then Freo and will hold picks 2 & 3. Maybe they are keen for a ready made replacement to Lynch.

[grazman 7,451]

47 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

4 & 5 is too high for Hogan. Freo will strongly consider taking those picks to the super draft if we refuse to budge on that opening gambit.

I think  the draft picks are arbitrary to a certain point in that pick 4 in one draft isn't equal to pick 4 in another. I think all that matters to the club will be for it to get what it needs to get the outcomes it wants ( May, KK and something else)

 

Edited October 3, 2018 by grazman

[DV8 2,271]

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

The fact he wants to go back to Perth tells me there is only 2 clubs that can acquire him unless we are looking to trade him to the WAFL

Only speculation. I'd say the issue is he doesn't like Metropolis's. like me.

Melbourne has gone past it's very-good use by date... it is too big and stressful, these days.

 Someone said, Mrs Hogan is living in Adelaide these days? 

 

So why Perth !!!  I'm not so sure that is accurate.

[DV8 2,271]

4 minutes ago, olisik said:

Gold Coast would have more Cap space then Freo and will hold picks 2 & 3. Maybe they are keen for a ready made replacement to Lynch.

Now, your starting to think out of the box, Boy'o.

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

49 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Superdraft is so overrated.  

Dont believe the hype. 

Freo will make the deal.

Are you sure it’s not our supporters overrating Hogan?

Did not finish top ten in B&F. Played 20 games.

[Moonshadow 17,677]

12 minutes ago, olisik said:

Gold Coast would have more Cap space then Freo and will hold picks 2 & 3. Maybe they are keen for a ready made replacement to Lynch.

Is it too much to expect you might understand that a player cannot be traded to a specific club without their consent?

[olisik 4,060]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Is it too much to expect you might understand that a player cannot be traded to a specific club without their consent?

Hence the comment about them probably having more cap space. $$ talks.

[olisik 4,060]

4 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Are you sure it’s not our supporters overrating Hogan?

Did not finish top ten in B&F. Played 20 games.

Is that you Ross?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

Just now, olisik said:

Is that you Ross?

No, it’s Reality. 

Yoh might want to become acquainted with it one day.

[Moonshadow 17,677]

2 minutes ago, olisik said:

Hence the comment about them probably having more cap space. $$ talks.

So does family loyalty

[daisycutter 29,738]

32 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Are you sure it’s not our supporters overrating Hogan?

Did not finish top ten in B&F. Played 20 games.

you need to look where he was placed after 20 games.

iirc some poster posted this and it was better than top 10

b&f is much more skewed to number of games played than other awards

47 goals in 20 games for a high fwd is a better indication

[Bonkers 994]

29 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Are you sure it’s not our supporters overrating Hogan?

Did not finish top ten in B&F. Played 20 games.

He was 3rd in the count until his injury. That rates him only behind Oliver and Gawn and they are both top 10 players in the comp. Outside of Hogan there aren't too many 50 goal a year forwards in the AFL. What would we have to pay to trade for one? I'm tipping every other club would be asking for the equivalent to the Treloar trade for someone of Jesse's proven ability and age. 

[jnrmac 20,186]

55 minutes ago, olisik said:

Gold Coast would have more Cap space then Freo and will hold picks 2 & 3. Maybe they are keen for a ready made replacement to Lynch.

Why TF would he go to Gold Coast? What are you smoking?

[Dr.D 1,771]

mahoney can't screw us again at the trade table. He seems far too nice. Why did we cough up 2 first rounders for Lever when he was out of contract and we had all of the power? No-one can pre-empt an injury but we are so far behind on that trade so far. You need to be stronger this time around Josh!!

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1 hour ago, Winter Dan said:

A top 5  pick I'd give a 1 in 4 chance of being a star, 4 in 5 chance of being a quality player. 

There are a hell of a lot of top 10 picks who are just good players, nothing too special.

Hogan is a star - for a 23 year old. Will be unstoppable when he's 25-28. Unstoppable!

Hogan in 3 years time... stop and consider this for a moment.

He is a generational player, a young guy who's had a heap of off field stuff to deal with - and yet - what a contribution.

Think I would prefer to keep him.

Amen.