Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Wilson7 2,689]

27 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Trade Hogan for Neale, Langdon and pick 6 (Max King) and swap 2nd round picks to get O'Halloran. I think that is a good deal. Hogan is no longer needed and is on huge money I think we should make the move now.

You can't be serious ?

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

7 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

You can't be serious ?

We have the Weid and their was some worrying signs from Hogan late in the year.

[Wilson7 2,689]

Just now, WERRIDEE said:

We have the Weid and their was some worrying signs from Hogan late in the year.

Have faith Werridee, Hogan is a gun, i wouldn't consider trading him unless he wants to go

[Moonshadow 17,678]

43 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Trade Hogan for Neale, Langdon and pick 6 (Max King) and swap 2nd round picks to get O'Halloran. I think that is a good deal. Hogan is no longer needed and is on huge money I think we should make the move now.

That's just ridiculous. He's needed, will stay, unless he has second thoughts. But I'm not as against a trade as others on here, were it to arise.

Howerver, your trade scenario is irrational. No way Freo would give up that.

[Dee tention 618]

Hogan is most definitely a keeper... 

Adding Neale to our midfield would be insanely very good though!

I actually like the Dees current list and feel we have a strong 22 already and depth.

Neale in a trade and Gaff in Free Agency! Wow! Wouldn’t that be a get for the MFC. Throw in Preuss...

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

Realistically what is Hogan worth to us a year all things considered, then what would another club ie Freo possibly pay him a season. I think the gap has widened in the last 3 weeks.

Edited September 8, 2018 by Bombay Airconditioning

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

We tried various combinations of three talls during the middle part of season and settled on 2, Weed only came back into the side after Hogan was injured. The Weed has blown every one with his last 3 weeks. With Lever also to come back in I think someone’s going to miss.

[rjay 25,347]

14 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

We tried various combinations of three talls during the middle part of season and settled on 2, Weed only came back into the side after Hogan was injured. The Weed has blown every one with his last 3 weeks. With Lever also to come back in I think someone’s going to miss.

Things are never static 'Bombay'...

Think Boyd's finals series a couple of years back, and how is he going now. Not saying Weed will go the same way but you never know.

Hogan is a gun...no matter how many try to reinvent history.

Also the game will change next year, tall players with a good tank like Hogan will be priceless if the AFL get their way and we see a more free and open game.

You don't give away class like Hogan unless he wants to leave.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Things are never static 'Bombay'...

Think Boyd's finals series a couple of years back, and how is he going now. Not saying Weed will go the same way but you never know.

Hogan is a gun...no matter how many try to reinvent history.

Also the game will change next year, tall players with a good tank like Hogan will be priceless if the AFL get their way and we see a more free and open game.

You don't give away class like Hogan unless he wants to leave.

I personally think he’s better off playing beteen the arcs, I think that suits his skill set.

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

That's just ridiculous. He's needed, will stay, unless he has second thoughts. But I'm not as against a trade as others on here, were it to arise.

Howerver, your trade scenario is irrational. No way Freo would give up that.

What would Freo give up then? Forget Langdon and they would have to give up that much to get him.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,271]

We need him as depth in case Weed goes down. 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,271]

4 hours ago, Dee tention said:

Hogan is most definitely a keeper... 

Adding Neale to our midfield would be insanely very good though!

I actually like the Dees current list and feel we have a strong 22 already and depth.

Neale in a trade and Gaff in Free Agency! Wow! Wouldn’t that be a get for the MFC. Throw in Preuss...

Neale is off to Brissy, spent last week up there touring facilities and meeting coaches. Lock it in Eddie. 

What has the tradewhisperer™️ heard re Gaff? Oh yeh, he’s currently weighing up his options however Gold Coast has made a mammoth offer and throw in ex-Suns Lynch’s Ambassador pay to him as well. Gaff is around an 87% chance of being a Sun next season. #ETthetradewhispererisgettingcrispier.

Edited September 8, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Moonshadow 17,678]

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

What would Freo give up then? Forget Langdon and they would have to give up that much to get him.

We'd ask for 5 plus Andrew Brayshaw, and probably settle for 5 plus Langdon or 5 plus Freo 2019 first rounder

In that case I'd use 5 to tempt a star like Whitfield or Shiel, though talk is hot on Shiel to Bombers.

[Demon Disciple 12,491]

Unless he demands a trade, under no circumstances do we trade Hogan.

[Redleg 42,043]

4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Mr Leg, where did I say this?

I think it would be a great statement for Jesse to re-sign before the October trade period. After all, he loves the club, he loves living in Melbourne and we are on the rise. Gives him certainty during recovery from foot injury and the club would have clarity. I want him to stay, I've posted that repeatedly, but a strong club is more than any one player.

No sane person wants to push Jesse out. With his contract coming up in 13 months, wouldn't it be fantastic for him to recommit soon rather than watch it drag on?

Not saying you said it Moonie, it was in answer to those who did. 

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

51 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Neale is off to Brissy, spent last week up there touring facilities and meeting coaches. Lock it in Eddie. 

What has the tradewhisperer™️ heard re Gaff? Oh yeh, he’s currently weighing up his options however Gold Coast has made a mammoth offer and throw in ex-Suns Ambassador pay to him as well. Gaff is around an 87% chance of being a Sun next season. #ETthetradewhisperisgettingcrisper.

who are you noshing off?

[ILLDieADemon 804]

This article is a joke.

I think we all know he will move to WA as all players go home eventually but it will be on the terms of if the club starts to rebuild or we trade him because he is underperforming.

 

[whatwhat say what 23,631]

17 hours ago, ILLDieADemon said:

This article is a joke.

I think we all know he will move to WA as all players go home eventually but it will be on the terms of if the club starts to rebuild or we trade him because he is underperforming.

he lives in melbourne, and has done for six years

his mother now lives here

the majority of his family live in adelaide

where's 'home'?

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,023]

Jessy is a gun, just about to come into his prime in a team well and truly on the way up.  After coming out of contract a few years back when we were ordanary, he signed a pretty decient medium term contract with us.  As far as I'm concerned he is one of ours and no MFC supporter should be speculating over his future at another club.

Can someone close down this thread?  It really doesn't deserve any oxygen.

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/09/why-melbourne-should-trade-jesse-hogan/

[whatwhat say what 23,631]

god that roar website is trash

what part of 'not a free agent' do these keyboard warriors not understand?

even if he WAS - which he won't be until he enters his eighth afl season, in 2021  - he would be a restricted free agent, enabling us to have the option of matching and / or forcing a trade

if - and it's a big IF - he chooses to leave after 2021 and having played in back to back to back premierships (having missed out in the first run of four in 2018) then we won't lack for compensation options for a approaching 27 year old gun mobile key forward

[GCDee 3,200]

41 minutes ago, Danelska said:

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/09/why-melbourne-should-trade-jesse-hogan/

Lol trade Hogan because Melbourne have too many key forwards, to then draft another key forward to improve our KPP stocks after the Hogan departure. Makes perfect sense. 

Was this article written  by a 13 year old? 

[Diamond_Jim 12,719]

16 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

god that roar website is trash

what part of 'not a free agent' do these keyboard warriors not understand?

even if he WAS - which he won't be until he enters his eighth afl season, in 2021  - he would be a restricted free agent, enabling us to have the option of matching and / or forcing a trade

if - and it's a big IF - he chooses to leave after 2021 and having played in back to back to back premierships (having missed out in the first run of four in 2018) then we won't lack for compensation options for a approaching 27 year old gun mobile key forward

yep it's a question of degree... what if a club makes a wild ball offer for Hogan just like the Dogs did for Boyd say.

Match it and then lose who in the years to come along with the acrimony that comes with a wage that is way out of kilter. The giving club doesn't get to match and force a trade. It gets the option to match and see if it can get a trade at that price. You can be assured that the paying club will not trade at that price because the absence of a need to trade has been built into the original offered price.

The smart thing is to sign him up now or trade him.

Gaff is a perfect example of how a club loses out even if the departing player is an RFA let alone an FA.

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i believe crows are the only team, thus far, to be happy to match and thus force a trade - they got pick 9 (milera), pick 28 (on traded alongside kerridge in a truly awful trade for troy menzel) plus dean gore for dangerfield and pick 50

don't forget that if a team does match and a trade then can't be organised, the player goes into the open draft or the psd, where they can put a price on their head

but if hogan was available at 26 turning 27 going into 2022, you can't tell me that whoever holds pick 1 that year wouldn't snap him up

[Engorged Onion 10,224]

1 hour ago, GCDee said:

Lol trade Hogan because Melbourne have too many key forwards, to then draft another key forward to improve our KPP stocks after the Hogan departure. Makes perfect sense. 

Was this article written  by a 13 year old? 

Im not agreeing with it - just adding opinions from elsewhere to the mix...