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Farewell Jesse Hogan

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  On 08/09/2018 at 03:19, WERRIDEE said:

Trade Hogan for Neale, Langdon and pick 6 (Max King) and swap 2nd round picks to get O'Halloran. I think that is a good deal. Hogan is no longer needed and is on huge money I think we should make the move now.

You can't be serious ?

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      On 08/09/2018 at 03:48, DavidNeitz9 said:

    You can't be serious ?

    We have the Weid and their was some worrying signs from Hogan late in the year.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 03:57, WERRIDEE said:

    We have the Weid and their was some worrying signs from Hogan late in the year.

    Have faith Werridee, Hogan is a gun, i wouldn't consider trading him unless he wants to go

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      On 08/09/2018 at 03:19, WERRIDEE said:

    Trade Hogan for Neale, Langdon and pick 6 (Max King) and swap 2nd round picks to get O'Halloran. I think that is a good deal. Hogan is no longer needed and is on huge money I think we should make the move now.

    That's just ridiculous. He's needed, will stay, unless he has second thoughts. But I'm not as against a trade as others on here, were it to arise.

    Howerver, your trade scenario is irrational. No way Freo would give up that.

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    Hogan is most definitely a keeper... 

    Adding Neale to our midfield would be insanely very good though!

    I actually like the Dees current list and feel we have a strong 22 already and depth.

    Neale in a trade and Gaff in Free Agency! Wow! Wouldn’t that be a get for the MFC. Throw in Preuss...

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    Realistically what is Hogan worth to us a year all things considered, then what would another club ie Freo possibly pay him a season. I think the gap has widened in the last 3 weeks.

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    We tried various combinations of three talls during the middle part of season and settled on 2, Weed only came back into the side after Hogan was injured. The Weed has blown every one with his last 3 weeks. With Lever also to come back in I think someone’s going to miss.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 05:22, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    We tried various combinations of three talls during the middle part of season and settled on 2, Weed only came back into the side after Hogan was injured. The Weed has blown every one with his last 3 weeks. With Lever also to come back in I think someone’s going to miss.

    Things are never static 'Bombay'...

    Think Boyd's finals series a couple of years back, and how is he going now. Not saying Weed will go the same way but you never know.

    Hogan is a gun...no matter how many try to reinvent history.

    Also the game will change next year, tall players with a good tank like Hogan will be priceless if the AFL get their way and we see a more free and open game.

    You don't give away class like Hogan unless he wants to leave.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 05:42, rjay said:

    Things are never static 'Bombay'...

    Think Boyd's finals series a couple of years back, and how is he going now. Not saying Weed will go the same way but you never know.

    Hogan is a gun...no matter how many try to reinvent history.

    Also the game will change next year, tall players with a good tank like Hogan will be priceless if the AFL get their way and we see a more free and open game.

    You don't give away class like Hogan unless he wants to leave.

    I personally think he’s better off playing beteen the arcs, I think that suits his skill set.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 04:07, Moonshadow said:

    That's just ridiculous. He's needed, will stay, unless he has second thoughts. But I'm not as against a trade as others on here, were it to arise.

    Howerver, your trade scenario is irrational. No way Freo would give up that.

    What would Freo give up then? Forget Langdon and they would have to give up that much to get him.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 04:36, Dee tention said:

    Hogan is most definitely a keeper... 

    Adding Neale to our midfield would be insanely very good though!

    I actually like the Dees current list and feel we have a strong 22 already and depth.

    Neale in a trade and Gaff in Free Agency! Wow! Wouldn’t that be a get for the MFC. Throw in Preuss...

    Neale is off to Brissy, spent last week up there touring facilities and meeting coaches. Lock it in Eddie. 

    What has the tradewhisperer™️ heard re Gaff? Oh yeh, he’s currently weighing up his options however Gold Coast has made a mammoth offer and throw in ex-Suns Lynch’s Ambassador pay to him as well. Gaff is around an 87% chance of being a Sun next season. #ETthetradewhispererisgettingcrispier.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 07:30, WERRIDEE said:

    What would Freo give up then? Forget Langdon and they would have to give up that much to get him.

    We'd ask for 5 plus Andrew Brayshaw, and probably settle for 5 plus Langdon or 5 plus Freo 2019 first rounder

    In that case I'd use 5 to tempt a star like Whitfield or Shiel, though talk is hot on Shiel to Bombers.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 03:34, Moonshadow said:

    Mr Leg, where did I say this?

    I think it would be a great statement for Jesse to re-sign before the October trade period. After all, he loves the club, he loves living in Melbourne and we are on the rise. Gives him certainty during recovery from foot injury and the club would have clarity. I want him to stay, I've posted that repeatedly, but a strong club is more than any one player.

    No sane person wants to push Jesse out. With his contract coming up in 13 months, wouldn't it be fantastic for him to recommit soon rather than watch it drag on?

    Not saying you said it Moonie, it was in answer to those who did. 

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      On 08/09/2018 at 07:35, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Neale is off to Brissy, spent last week up there touring facilities and meeting coaches. Lock it in Eddie. 

    What has the tradewhisperer™️ heard re Gaff? Oh yeh, he’s currently weighing up his options however Gold Coast has made a mammoth offer and throw in ex-Suns Ambassador pay to him as well. Gaff is around an 87% chance of being a Sun next season. #ETthetradewhisperisgettingcrisper.

    who are you noshing off?

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    This article is a joke.

    I think we all know he will move to WA as all players go home eventually but it will be on the terms of if the club starts to rebuild or we trade him because he is underperforming.

     

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      On 08/09/2018 at 08:57, ILLDieADemon said:

    This article is a joke.

    I think we all know he will move to WA as all players go home eventually but it will be on the terms of if the club starts to rebuild or we trade him because he is underperforming.

    he lives in melbourne, and has done for six years

    his mother now lives here

    the majority of his family live in adelaide

    where's 'home'?

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    Jessy is a gun, just about to come into his prime in a team well and truly on the way up.  After coming out of contract a few years back when we were ordanary, he signed a pretty decient medium term contract with us.  As far as I'm concerned he is one of ours and no MFC supporter should be speculating over his future at another club.

    Can someone close down this thread?  It really doesn't deserve any oxygen.

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    god that roar website is trash

    what part of 'not a free agent' do these keyboard warriors not understand?

    even if he WAS - which he won't be until he enters his eighth afl season, in 2021  - he would be a restricted free agent, enabling us to have the option of matching and / or forcing a trade

    if - and it's a big IF - he chooses to leave after 2021 and having played in back to back to back premierships (having missed out in the first run of four in 2018) then we won't lack for compensation options for a approaching 27 year old gun mobile key forward

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      On 09/09/2018 at 03:32, Danelska said:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/09/09/why-melbourne-should-trade-jesse-hogan/

    Lol trade Hogan because Melbourne have too many key forwards, to then draft another key forward to improve our KPP stocks after the Hogan departure. Makes perfect sense. 

    Was this article written  by a 13 year old? 

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      On 09/09/2018 at 03:59, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    god that roar website is trash

    what part of 'not a free agent' do these keyboard warriors not understand?

    even if he WAS - which he won't be until he enters his eighth afl season, in 2021  - he would be a restricted free agent, enabling us to have the option of matching and / or forcing a trade

    if - and it's a big IF - he chooses to leave after 2021 and having played in back to back to back premierships (having missed out in the first run of four in 2018) then we won't lack for compensation options for a approaching 27 year old gun mobile key forward

    yep it's a question of degree... what if a club makes a wild ball offer for Hogan just like the Dogs did for Boyd say.

    Match it and then lose who in the years to come along with the acrimony that comes with a wage that is way out of kilter. The giving club doesn't get to match and force a trade. It gets the option to match and see if it can get a trade at that price. You can be assured that the paying club will not trade at that price because the absence of a need to trade has been built into the original offered price.

    The smart thing is to sign him up now or trade him.

    Gaff is a perfect example of how a club loses out even if the departing player is an RFA let alone an FA.

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    i believe crows are the only team, thus far, to be happy to match and thus force a trade - they got pick 9 (milera), pick 28 (on traded alongside kerridge in a truly awful trade for troy menzel) plus dean gore for dangerfield and pick 50

    don't forget that if a team does match and a trade then can't be organised, the player goes into the open draft or the psd, where they can put a price on their head

    but if hogan was available at 26 turning 27 going into 2022, you can't tell me that whoever holds pick 1 that year wouldn't snap him up

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      On 09/09/2018 at 04:16, GCDee said:

    Lol trade Hogan because Melbourne have too many key forwards, to then draft another key forward to improve our KPP stocks after the Hogan departure. Makes perfect sense. 

    Was this article written  by a 13 year old? 

    Im not agreeing with it - just adding opinions from elsewhere to the mix...

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