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Am I correct in assuming that the top 6 play each other twice in the following year?

This will be good for revenues if so as it gives us home games against Collingwood, Richmond and Hawthorn.

GWS and WCE home games can possibly be played at our winter home away from home in the Territory ... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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    Not quite but almost. You are drawn against more teams in your ‘6’ but this will generally include 3 from there and 1 from the others. Also depends on trade week I.e if we traded in Patrick Cripps - we’d have 2 games v Blues.

    Basically, expect 2 games v Rich and Coll (also putting early money on Coll v Melb to have the opening Friday night) and then ??? For the other 3 double ups. 

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    3 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

    Not quite but almost. You are drawn against more teams in your ‘6’ but this will generally include 3 from there and 1 from the others. Also depends on trade week I.e if we traded in Patrick Cripps - we’d have 2 games v Blues

    Basically, expect 2 games v Rich and Coll (also putting early money on Coll v Melb to have the opening Friday night) and then ??? For the other 3 double ups. 

    I had no idea trade week could effect the draw Dee-lic, would you mind explaining it further?

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    2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    I had no idea trade week could effect the draw Dee-lic, would you mind explaining it further?

    So we got Adelaide twice last year because of Lever. They like to try and make money out of the big trades and free agents (ie crows v Geelong after Danger). So while the rules around fixturing don’t say “we will do this”. The AFL have enough breathing room to maximise eyeballs. 

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    thankgod we're not after Cripps !!

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    There's already talk that Collingwood want a round 1 match up (on the Friday night too), so queens birthday remains our home game. I imagine that'd do very good things for exposure/sponsorship etc.

    The draw next season means there's not going to be any lapses, such as the 2 geelong games or the saints, we'll have to be good all year, something I hope our guys are looking forward too.

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    30 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    I had no idea trade week could effect the draw Dee-lic, would you mind explaining it further?

    amazing... never knew that... thanks for that Dee-lic

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    50 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

    So we got Adelaide twice last year because of Lever. They like to try and make money out of the big trades and free agents (ie crows v Geelong after Danger). So while the rules around fixturing don’t say “we will do this”. The AFL have enough breathing room to maximise eyeballs. 

    If so, I hope we get Steven May. % will get a massive boost

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    51 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

    So we got Adelaide twice last year because of Lever. They like to try and make money out of the big trades and free agents (ie crows v Geelong after Danger). So while the rules around fixturing don’t say “we will do this”. The AFL have enough breathing room to maximise eyeballs. 

    Absolutely. Has been a factor for about 10 years. 

    Maximize the hype...

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    At least two of our five repeat games next year will be against Richmond, West Coast, Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS.

    Could potentially be good financially, if we get home games against those three big Victorian clubs.

    And no more than one of our five repeat games will be against Carlton, Gold Coast, Brisbane, St Kilda, Fremantle and the Dogs.

    That could also potentially be good financially, as it lowers the likelihood of home games against a bunch of low-drawing sides.

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    No doubt given that we deserve prime time games we will get to be away team v Carlton, Saint and EssenDung. 

    That will enable a Gillon to stand up and say we are being treated equitably. 

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    London to a brick we’ll go to Kardinia Park, and Richmond, Essendon and Collingwood won’t.

    Its as bad as an interstate game in SA or WA, and we get it at least 80 % of years.

    AND..........We MUST stop selling home games interstate.

    This year has shown, that if we are successful, lukewarm supporters will turn up to our home games.

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    7 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

    London to a brick we’ll go to Kardinia Park, and Richmond, Essendon and Collingwood won’t.

    Its as bad as an interstate game in SA or WA, and we get it at least 80 % of years.

    AND..........We MUST stop selling home games interstate.

    This year has shown, that if we are successful, lukewarm supporters will turn up to our home games.

    We just need to get rid of the Darwin one. That game is [censored].

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    My guess is we will play Coll, Haw, WCE, Syd and BL twice next year.

    Just random guess work that I may, or may not, bump in the future.

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    If we get stuck with Geelong down that shithole again I’m gonna lose it. The only Victorian club to consistently go there every year, yet we had better attendance numbers than half the other Melbourne based clubs. What a joke!

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    The draw is a disgrace & until you play each other twice or once you will never have a fair comp ..  pies got top 4 with 14 wins against bottom 8 teams & 1 win against  us in the 8... What would the ladder look if teams only played once?

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    9 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

    The draw is a disgrace & until you play each other twice or once you will never have a fair comp ..  pies got top 4 with 14 wins against bottom 8 teams & 1 win against  us in the 8... What would the ladder look if teams only played once?

    We should have won at east 1 game against Geelong and we should have beaten St. Kilda. Result - 16 wins and second position. The draw didn't affect us.

    We had better success away than on our home ground, the draw didn't affect that.

    Lastly, whatever the draw's  failings, I like football and I don't want the season reduced to 17 games.

     

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    9 hours ago, Jaded said:

    If we get stuck with Geelong down that shithole again I’m gonna lose it. The only Victorian club to consistently go there every year, yet we had better attendance numbers than half the other Melbourne based clubs. What a joke!

    High time some other team pays this penance surely. 

    Something for the club to lobby for

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    The draw is generated by a computer program which takes numerous factors into consideration (6 day breaks, consecutive travel, etc) and generates a draw in 0.02 seconds. It's completely impartial and untainted by human intervention.

    The AFL execs then layer on other considerations, like "big 4 club", "minnow club", "club in our gunsights that we want to punish", "blockbusters", and so on, resulting in a final draw that is completely impartial (except for the bits that aren't), and untainted by any consideration of contract bonuses (perish the thought).

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    The draw also goes to Eddie and Channel 7 just to make sure it is a FIXture that benefits those the AFL want to benefit.

    Edited by Clintosaurus

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    8 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    The draw also goes to Eddie and Channel 7 just to make sure it is a FIXture that benefits those the AFL want to benefit.

    But Carlton has the final say of course

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    20 hours ago, rpfc said:

    My guess is we will play Coll, Haw, WCE, Syd and BL twice next year.

    Just random guess work that I may, or may not, bump in the future.

    Of the top 6 I would be happy playing Haw and WCE twice.  Although not happy if WCE is an NT game.

    Prefer Syd twice over Geelong, NM, Adelaide, Port or Essendon.

    BL twice would be unlucky.... 

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