Jump to content

Featured Replies

3 hours ago, Precard said:

No thankyou. I prefer to watch football. They shouldn't even be out there.

Pathetic comment. If this was my site i'd ban you immediately. It's not so i'll put you on ignore. 

 
16 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Yes the players had a lot do with it! 100% 34 tackles is effortless... And work rate non existent.

5 minutes in you could see the game plan was off... Completely out coached. The most disappointing aspect was you could clearly see we’re playing to some other BS game plan. We threw our Brand out the window! That’s what was disappointing! I’m interested to listen to the speeches at the B & F Monday night... 

It would be good good to have Roaming Brian at the B & F too ask the hard questions! Haha... It would be a Pissa! ?

I just want to ask the coaching group what the F..k were they thinking?

We didn't execute our gameplan.  Coaches tried to mix it up when things started going badly.  Our gameplan is not to lose contested possession and not tackle.  That's what happened and who knows why.  Coaches tried everything, including throwing TMac back in the first quarter to stop the onslaught. 

I want to know how 18 (22) players can all play so badly at the one time for a sustained period of time. 

Big Max said in his article on sunday that the team was not ready for such intense pressure. 

Why weren’t they? It was going to be there

where was the preparation at? What did the Coaches do?

the 2nd half is irrelevant. Meth Coke had achieved their goal

 
17 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I want to know how 18 (22) players can all play so badly at the one time for a sustained period of time. 

Big Max said in his article on sunday that the team was not ready for such intense pressure. 

Why weren’t they? It was going to be there

where was the preparation at? What did the Coaches do?

the 2nd half is irrelevant. Meth Coke had achieved their goal

There are so many small things that can lead to a debacle like Saturday in hindsight.  I suspect Max had to fill some news and didn't know what to write.  

 


5 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

There are so many small things that can lead to a debacle like Saturday in hindsight.  I suspect Max had to fill some news and didn't know what to write.  

 

Of course. I hope the Club goes right through it all with a fine tooth comb. 

All those small answers need to be fully addressed. 

59 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

We didn't execute our gameplan.  Coaches tried to mix it up when things started going badly.  Our gameplan is not to lose contested possession and not tackle.  That's what happened and who knows why.  Coaches tried everything, including throwing TMac back in the first quarter to stop the onslaught. 

tmac was thrown back when the game was all over, needed to move him earlier- the 3rd goal wouldve been optimal time for this, even throw gawn back mightve helped

46 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I want to know how 18 (22) players can all play so badly at the one time for a sustained period of time. 

Big Max said in his article on sunday that the team was not ready for such intense pressure. 

Why weren’t they? It was going to be there

where was the preparation at? What did the Coaches do?

the 2nd half is irrelevant. Meth Coke had achieved their goal

That is a terrible indictment on preparation if true.

 
Just now, Superunknown said:

That is a terrible indictment on preparation if true.

I know it is. I was shocked. I thought we had come further than that. 

A Preliminary Final is all out war, the way Meth Coke attacked the game was no suprise to me. 

We the members must now wait....

5 hours ago, Precard said:

No thankyou. I prefer to watch football. They shouldn't even be out there.

Suit yourself. Please choose your words carefully though.


9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Of course. I hope the Club goes right through it all with a fine tooth comb. 

All those small answers need to be fully addressed. 

I'm sure they will.  Tired, over-confident, complacent, happy with year, who knows.  All I know is they haven't lost contested ball all year, were smashed at it, and unlike Hawthorn the week before WC made them pay big time.

The loss to me was pretty much the story of our year, play a ripping block of games for 4-6 weeks then put up an absolute stinker, just a shame that stinker was a preliminary final but rather that then do it in a grand final, we will be fine just need more consistency and experience 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Big Max said in his article on sunday that the team was not ready for such intense pressure. 

Ouch.

From experience of reading footy media, giving fans this line is like waving a red flag to a bull.

It may have been true and there may have been little we could have done to get ready with the experience we had but no-one ever wants to hear that a side couldn't get ready for one of the biggest matches of their life. Hopefully we'll be better equipped to handle it in future.

Edited by layzie

59 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Of course. I hope the Club goes right through it all with a fine tooth comb. 

All those small answers need to be fully addressed. 

dear god mate, you think they wont? 

4 minutes ago, Danelska said:

dear god mate, you think they wont? 

We don’t know until next season. 

It was a huge wack...


7 minutes ago, Danelska said:

dear god mate, you think they wont? 

I would have thought that they would have prepared properly before .... not have to discover they hadn't after !!

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I would have thought that they would have prepared properly before .... not have to discover they hadn't after !!

I find these sorts of comments really frustrating, as I'm fairly certain there is no response that would change your conviction, nonetheless here goes...

Let's assume that they did prepare 'properly' as they did for the previous two finals. 

Does preparing properly mean that a whole range of things that occurred (missed handballs, slipping over, poor tackles/pressure etc etc), doesn't occur?

Also, what does preparing properly look like to you @beelzebub in your day to day? Have you ever prepared properly, but because of someone else (or a range of someone elses) things didn't go the way you expected.

Sometimes [censored] happens, and its got SFA to do with the preparation, it all to do with the execution under pressure.

And sometimes (actually every time) exposure to an uncomfortable experience reduces the stress for the next time...

It's to be expected to some degree that this happened as the players are a young young team, with no knowledge of playing finals...and probably had spent most of their petrol tickets over the previous 5 games.... 

I vehemently disagree with the 'preparation' problem...its too myopic.

14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We don’t know until next season. 

It was a huge wack...

In your opinion, leaning is only observed if performance occurs at a linear rate does it? So next year a minimum of 18 wins is a pass?

7 minutes ago, Danelska said:

In your opinion, leaning is only observed if performance occurs at a linear rate does it? So next year a minimum of 18 wins is a pass?

Why not?

set high standards

What’s your pass mark for 2019 seeing as you bought it up?

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Why not?

set high standards

What’s your pass mark for 2019 seeing as you bought it up?

home and away.... 15 wins

Finals ... 2 wins

Mind you I would like more.... much more ?

Edited by Diamond_Jim


16 minutes ago, Danelska said:

I find these sorts of comments really frustrating, as I'm fairly certain there is no response that would change your conviction, nonetheless here goes...

Let's assume that they did prepare 'properly' as they did for the previous two finals. 

Does preparing properly mean that a whole range of things that occurred (missed handballs, slipping over, poor tackles/pressure etc etc), doesn't occur?

Also, what does preparing properly look like to you @beelzebub in your day to day? Have you ever prepared properly, but because of someone else (or a range of someone elses) things didn't go the way you expected.

Sometimes [censored] happens, and its got SFA to do with the preparation, it all to do with the execution under pressure.

And sometimes (actually every time) exposure to an uncomfortable experience reduces the stress for the next time...

It's to be expected to some degree that this happened as the players are a young young team, with no knowledge of playing finals...and probably had spent most of their petrol tickets over the previous 5 games.... 

I vehemently disagree with the 'preparation' problem...its too myopic.

Agree.

Also, note these figures:

Experience differential
Games: West Coast Eagles (2635) v Melbourne (2070)
Goals: West Coast Eagles (2268) v Melbourne (963)
Average age: West Coast Eagles (26 years, 100 days) v Melbourne (24 years, 311 days)

17 minutes ago, Danelska said:

It's to be expected to some degree that this happened as the players are a young young team, with no knowledge of playing finals...and probably had spent most of their petrol tickets over the previous 5 games.... 

I vehemently disagree with the 'preparation' problem...its too myopic.

Oh please... not the tired and young story again.

We were in  a prelim. It was there for the taking and we fluffed it.

Hopefully next year is better but admit it.... Saturday was the worst performance of the MFC for 2018.

12 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Oh please... not the tired and young story again.

We were in  a prelim. It was there for the taking and we fluffed it.

Hopefully next year is better but admit it.... Saturday was the worst performance of the MFC for 2018.

Totally admit it... no issues there @Diamond_Jim - it's not just about preparation though, that's far too reductionist.

Shall agree to disagree :)

Edited by Danelska

 
18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Why not?

set high standards

What’s your pass mark for 2019 seeing as you bought it up?

Because it is not the reality of elite sport...that's why not. Because MFC don't operate in a vacuum, other teams improve for a variety of reasons, from technical, to tactical, to age, to experience, to what staff the bring on, to what players they bring, to the vagaries of umpiring, to how many times to effing play at kardinia park... etc etc

Top 4 is a pass mark. But i'd like to distinguish between expectations vs hope. 

For all the reasons listed before, I'd hope we'd get top 4 - and I'd expect we comfortably make the 8, considering learning for the year and the demographic of our club. 

If we don't - it's not because 'we haven't learned', or thoroughly gone through things forensically', I see that as too simplistic.

25 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Why not?

set high standards

What’s your pass mark for 2019 seeing as you bought it up?

Setting a goal is not setting a standard, that's setting an expectation...it's fairly nuanced I get it... standards (in 2018's language) is about behaviours time and time and time again... set them high for sure..make people accountable for sure (see Watts, Garlett, etc etc) with an understanding that athletes are humans, and [censored] up as well...

Edited by Danelska


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • WHAT’S NEXT? by The Oracle

    What’s next for a beleagured Melbourne Football Club down in form and confidence, facing  intense criticism and disapproval over some underwhelming recent performances and in the midst of a four game losing streak? Why, it’s Adelaide which boasts the best percentage in the AFL and has won six of its last seven games. The Crows are hot and not only that, the game is at the Adelaide Oval; yet another away fixture and the third in a row at a venue outside of Victoria. One of the problems the Demons have these days is that they rarely have the luxury of true home ground advantage, something they have enjoyed just once since mid April. 

    • 2 replies
  • REPORT: Gold Coast

    From the start, Melbourne’s performance against the Gold Coast Suns at Peoples First Stadium was nothing short of a massive botch up and it came down in the first instance to poor preparation. Rather than adequately preparing the team for battle against an opponent potentially on the skids after suffering three consecutive losses, the Demons looking anything but sharp and ready to play in the opening minutes of the game. By way of contrast, the Suns demonstrated a clear sense of purpose and will to win. From the very first bounce of the ball they were back to where they left off earlier in the season in Round Three when the teams met at the MCG. They ran rings around the Demons and finished the game off with a dominant six goal final term. This time, they produced another dominant quarter to start the game, restricting Melbourne to a solitary point to lead by six goals at the first break, by which time, the game was all but over.

    • 0 replies
  • CASEY: Gold Coast

    Coming off four consecutive victories and with a team filled with 17 AFL listed players, the Casey Demons took to their early morning encounter with the lowly Gold Coast Suns at People First Stadium with the swagger of a team that thought a win was inevitable. They were smashing it for the first twenty minutes of the game after Tom Fullarton booted the first two goals but they then descended into an abyss of frustrating poor form and lackadaisical effort that saw the swagger and the early arrogance disappear by quarter time when their lead was overtaken by a more intense and committed opponent. The Suns continued to apply the pressure in the second quarter and got out to a three goal lead in mid term before the Demons fought back. A late goal to the home side before the half time bell saw them ten points up at the break and another surge in the third quarter saw them comfortably up with a 23 point lead at the final break.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Rd 17 vs Adelaide

    With their season all over bar the shouting the Demons head back on the road for the third week in a row as they return to Adelaide to take on the Crows. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Sad
    • 199 replies
  • POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

    The Demons did not come to play from the opening bounce and let the Gold Coast kick the first 5 goals of the match. They then outscored the Suns for the next 3 quarters but it was too little too late and their season is now effectively over.

      • Clap
      • Haha
      • Love
      • Like
    • 231 replies
  • VOTES: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

    Max Gawn has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award ahead of Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver and Kysaiah Pickett. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Thumb Down
      • Like
    • 41 replies