picket fence 18,184 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 A lot to like about Sam Frost .. Not just today but, in his continued development as a very very good tall running Key defensive back. I thought his very very good today vs Buddy and I believe he will team well with Jake Lever next year to provide running rebound from the backline I hope coaches see this and nurture and encourage. A very positive in the games he has played. Yep knows he needs to work on his game, but Big Tall running athletic defenders are hard to find! Bravo young man! Believe! 6 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,675 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Buddy could've kicked 7 if his radar was on. Frost had a good go and his kicking is better, marking more reliable and all round he's made improvements but I'm still yet to be convinced. Once Buddy stopped leading in straight lines and started putting some moves before short hit up leads he had Frost cold. I'm very keen to see a backline with Lever, Hibberd and Joel Smith, maybe a fully fit Hunt after a solid preseason and ideally find a replacement skilled flanker to take over from Lewis. That's the kind of support that would make life easier on the tall or talls. Whether Frost is a good fit in that or not I'm yet to know. Quote
picket fence 18,184 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Posted August 12, 2018 Frost has more upside than Joel Smith IMV! Hunt has pace and not much more! 1 Quote
goodwindees 2,586 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 What I do know for absolute certain is that we’d already be qualified for finals if those morons had selected Frost instead of Petty against St Kilda. Must be said that there were also plenty of morons on Demonland that posted Petty instead of Frost. Just laughable. 5 1 Quote
Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,064 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Frosty was our best back today by a long shot. Liked it in the first quarter when he was prepared to back himself, run off his (overrated) man and lay a hard tackle of the Swans player who was charging tawards goal on the boundary. Cops more than his fair share does Frosty. He didn't shank a kick today, but Jessy, Tommy and half a dozen forwards certainly did and cost us the game. I thought Oscar was also ok today, but infortunately, Hunt was practically dead wood. Nother sure that Bailey was a winner down back today either, compared to what he might have provided up forward. Edited August 12, 2018 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, goodwindees said: What I do know for absolute certain is that we’d already be qualified for finals if those morons had selected Frost instead of Petty against St Kilda. Must be said that there were also plenty of morons on Demonland that posted Petty instead of Frost. Just laughable. Yes the matchup of Petty and Omcd v Membrey and Mccartin was laughable petty was nowhere near ready 1 Quote
Winter Dan 472 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Goody had praising words about Frosty in the presser, which I appreciated because I also felt like he wasn't valued as much as he should have been this year. 2 Quote
In Harmes Way 7,869 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Loved it when Frosty beat Buddy in the 1 on 1 in the 3rd and then burned him off to the roar of the MCC. I had high hopes for you today Frosty and you exceeded them. 6 Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, picket fence said: Frost has more upside than Joel Smith IMV! Hunt has pace and not much more! Both Smith and Frost can play in the same side. Hunt is finished. Worst kick in our side. Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,823 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, small but forward said: Loved it when Frosty beat Buddy in the 1 on 1 in the 3rd and then burned him off to the roar of the MCC. I had high hopes for you today Frosty and you exceeded them. Could never understand why he wasn't in the team when Lever was on the park, have always been a staunch Frost follower. His kicking and decision making has come on leaps and bounds, his pace and breaking of the lines is Elite. Goody and his Goons [censored] up royally when they refused to pick him at the start of the year, they've stumbled into this. 1 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,823 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, small but forward said: Loved it when Frosty beat Buddy in the 1 on 1 in the 3rd and then burned him off to the roar of the MCC. I had high hopes for you today Frosty and you exceeded them. Only part of the game i loved, burned him off big time starting from behind. Quote
Mad_Melbourne 877 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Frost tried manfully, we lucked out buddy didn’t kick well. 100% if same game had of been OMac everyone would have lambasted his effort allowing Buddy to have so many shots on goals. The demonland story Edited August 12, 2018 by Mad_Melbourne 1 Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 I am disappointed that we were beaten today however the positive out of this game was the improvement that Frosty has made over the time he was given his chance and strung several games together which have been more than serviceable. He held his own against Buddy and outsprinted him to win his own ball and also took the game on at will. Why Goody played J Smith and Petty in front of Frosty against St Kilda? The mind Boggles.Two lesser bodies at the time not up to it, 8 games between them and the Saints beat us by 2 points. Goody got it wrong at selection. That hurts. 1 1 Quote
red&blue1982 255 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Strong game by Frosty. He's a gun! 1 Quote
goodwindees 2,586 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 42 minutes ago, Mad_Melbourne said: Frost tried manfully, we lucked out buddy didn’t kick well. 100% if same game had of been OMac everyone would have lambasted his effort allowing Buddy to have so many shots on goals. The demonland story Sounding like you’re one of the Frost bashers who is giving faint praise through gritted teeth. At least you are giving faint praise as there are many Frost bashers that have been decidedly quiet the last few weeks. 1 Quote
Mad_Melbourne 877 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, goodwindees said: Sounding like you’re one of the Frost bashers who is giving faint praise through gritted teeth. At least you are giving faint praise as there are many Frost bashers that have been decidedly quiet the last few weeks. I think Frost has been very good, since coming up from the VFL. I initially thought we couldn’t feature a backline with 3 talls. But I think he could successfully play in the backline with Lever and OMac next year. He offers a significant point of difference and is much improved at picking the time to leave his player. Franklin playing up the ground suited Frost but he also played a much less attacking role this week. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, goodwindees said: Sounding like you’re one of the Frost bashers who is giving faint praise through gritted teeth. At least you are giving faint praise as there are many Frost bashers that have been decidedly quiet the last few weeks. I'm definitely one of the Frost bashers but all credit to him. He's played some good footy since coming back in. Let's hope he keeps on the improve as we need his leg speed big time. Although I'm still not convinced he is our long term answer... 1 Quote
low flying Robbo 979 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 He was given absolutely no support from the midfield yesterday, giving their midfield plenty of time for a stabbed pass in to Buddy on the lead where no-one would be able to stop it. Quote
Biffen 12,949 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 I'm astounded as to how he gets kept out of the team by O'mac and others. He has the attributes to be the best CHB in the comp. Coaches have stalled his development. As many have pointed out-Goodwin stuffs up selection on a regular basis. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 Frost needed to be played and wasn’t it cost us earlier in the year Frost caught Franklin at least 5 times with a chase. He has the size and pace Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Mad_Melbourne said: Frost tried manfully, we lucked out buddy didn’t kick well. 100% if same game had of been OMac everyone would have lambasted his effort allowing Buddy to have so many shots on goals. The demonland story This is exactly right, had OMac played the same game on Buddy all on here would have been calling for him to be dropped. Frost did ok, but really the only reason he's getting any praise is because Buddy kicked 2.5, it could have easily been 5.2 and he toyed with him on occasion. I'm not a Frost hater at all, and think he's very much in the team at least until Lever is right, but surely you don't start a thread for a guy who got outplayed? We lost the game because of the mid pressure when the swans went forward and because we couldn't kick straight, the defenders overall we're reasonable, but they weren't world beater either. Quote
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