On 29/06/2018 at 01:18, beelzebub said:

i'll ask it:

Is Big Tom just blowing hard after some runs..if so...why ?  he's normally an endurance king

OR

Is he struggling with his  "niggle" ?

Struggling with slight "niggle". It was apparent during the recovery period. He looked suprised by his shortness of breath after the timed run. A bit like, Gee I am injured! His body also "glowed" with a pink hue. There was pollution and mist around the Park, (no wind to blow the particle matter away from the city) which wouldn't have helped his oxygen levels. However, I believe he will be OK to play.

  On 29/06/2018 at 01:52, kevin martin said:

Struggling with slight "niggle". It was apparent during the recovery period. He looked suprised by his shortness of breath after the timed run. A bit like, Gee I am injured! His body also "glowed" with a pink hue. There was pollution and mist around the Park, (no wind to blow the particle matter away from the city) which wouldn't have helped his oxygen levels. However, I believe he will be OK to play.

You really do need to speak to the players like myself and @Earl Hood

Tommy is fine, no niggle or pain whatsoever, but the decision to play is not his, due for another run on Saturday

He also had a good look at his GPS data before he left and seemed very satisfied with it

Edited June 29, 20186 yr by Satyriconhome

Even had a bit of fun

 

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:03, Satyriconhome said:

You really do need to speak to the players like myself and @Earl Hood

Tommy is fine, no niggle or pain whatsoever, but the decision to play is not his, due for another run on Saturday

He also had a good look at his GPS data before he left and seemed very satisfied with it

I prefer not to talk to them unless they are open to forming a genuine friendship. Already plenty of sycophants around. I am just writing what I observe. He trained well, other than that recovery period. Did you see him turn pink?

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:12, kevin martin said:

I prefer not to talk to them unless they are open to forming a genuine friendship. Already plenty of sycophants around. I am just writing what I observe. He trained well, other than that recovery period. Did you see him turn pink?

Don’t get sucked in by his trolling Kev. Your reports are bang on and really appreciated. 

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:06, Satyriconhome said:

Even had a bit of fun

 

 

Yeah he was like, totally just having fun.

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:03, Satyriconhome said:

You really do need to speak to the players like myself and @Earl Hood

Tommy is fine, no niggle or pain whatsoever, but the decision to play is not his, due for another run on Saturday

He also had a good look at his GPS data before he left and seemed very satisfied with it

No need for your first sentence. 

We like information not one upmanship. 

Indeed, thanks are in order, as Kevin's reports have been fantastic.

All those reporting on training should be valued for their contribution.  

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:12, kevin martin said:

I prefer not to talk to them unless they are open to forming a genuine friendship. Already plenty of sycophants around. I am just writing what I observe. He trained well, other than that recovery period. Did you see him turn pink?

I chat to Brendan McCartney. He is closer to my demographic. I see him enjoying walks in the botanical garden when he is not at work. 

Edited June 29, 20186 yr by kevin martin

Saty “ On Track” as per usual with his antics.

Totally unnecessary telling a poster he should talk to the players. People give up their spare time to report observations from training  to passionate Demons and get garbage thrown at them out of spite it seems.

  On 29/06/2018 at 01:18, beelzebub said:

i'll ask it:

Is Big Tom just blowing hard after some runs..if so...why ?  he's normally an endurance king

OR

Is he struggling with his  "niggle" ?

Last week's shirt front last week really knocked him around, immediately coughed up blood and had bruised lungs.  I would imagine that limits lung capacity a bit so his endurance may not be up to his normal lofty heights.  It sounds like he is medically fit to play but any sort of knock could really do damage.

He has a long flight to Darwin on Thursday or Friday and Freo worries me more than StK.  So if there is any doubt on Tom's lungs (capacity or bruising) I would err on the side of caution and rest him this week. 

Thanks for the support. Satry's alright for me. I can enjoy his contrary views. Gives me a laugh. He is probably just finding his feet on how to socialise. We all learn something with our interactions.  

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:30, kevin martin said:

I chat to Brendan McCartney. He is closer to my demographic. I see him enjoying walks in the botanical garden when he is not at work. 

Hopefully not with binoculars from in the trees

 

/jk

 

thanks for your reports !

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:35, kevin martin said:

Thanks for the support. Satry's alright for me. I can enjoy his contrary views. Gives me a laugh. He is probably just finding his feet on how to socialise. We all learn something with our interactions.  

You're training reports are by far the best, no one comes close, keep up the good work.

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:06, Satyriconhome said:

Even had a bit of fun

 

I imagine this is the typical response to the "can I take a photo of your guns?" request...

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:43, timbo said:

Hopefully not with binoculars from in the trees

 

/jk

 

thanks for your reports !

Laughing again. Thanks for that

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:03, Satyriconhome said:

You really do need to speak to the players like myself and @Earl Hood

 

Didn't know those 2 players were in the team.  What numbers do they wear?

  On 29/06/2018 at 04:09, kevin martin said:

How can an observation be misinformed? It could be misinterpreted.

 

It can't of course.

I listened to the Hibberd sen interview (thanks DL) and Hibbo said that TMac had a bruised lung. I'll say that again. A bruised lung - which is no surprise given he was coughing up blood straight after the incident. 

Your observations of him struggling for breath are entirely consistent with having a bruised lung. Hibbo said that the chance of a similar injury were low so that's in TMac's favor but the vibe was he is no certainly to play. Which is also unsurprising given he has a bruised lung.

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:06, Satyriconhome said:

Even had a bit of fun

 

Based on the overwhelming evidence of this photo and second-hand reports of a grumpy media interview earlier this week I feel confident in making an expert diagnosis that Tomald is exhibiting symptoms of aggression and disinhibition due to a case of traumatic brain injury (TBI) he has incurred from his hit against Port. The mist that kevin martin spoke of at training was clearly a red mist of anger radiating off of Tom and settling as a fine dust on his glowing pink face. I'm looking forward to seeing how this possible permanent brain damage and uncontrollable rage and might translate on the field against the Saints. A lot of potential upside.  

  On 28/06/2018 at 05:37, kevin martin said:

Rehab, fitness test group had Tom Mcdonald and Dom Tyson in it. Dom Joined the main group after 3/4 of an hour. Tom remained in rehab. He looked to be moving well with good skills on display with Daniel Cross and Dom. At the end he was tested with some 400 meters. He appeared to be running out of steam by the end. His endurance seems compromised at the moment. Jayden Hunt was walking laps.
The general atmosphere was full of intensity with plenty of noise from both players and coaches. All seemed to have purpose. The emphasis appeared to be about quick hands, locking the ball down and finding targets over the back of the pack.
The talls and smalls separated, with the talls doing marking practice and the smalls tackling each other (showing strength, power and endurance).
Close to the end of training the Casey team went off to kick goals while the AFL team did match simulations.
Aaron vandenBerg and Pat Mckenna training well and stayed with the AFL team. So they are unlikely to get a game in the seconds yet. In the AFL squad team was Cam Pederson, Harry Petty and Sam Weideman.

So Pedersen is emergency and Vince plays in the VFL. When was the last time Vince has played in the VFL? His career is almost over unfortunately for old Vince.

  On 29/06/2018 at 09:00, WERRIDEE said:

When was the last time Vince has played in the VFL? His career is almost over unfortunately for old Vince.

He needs 4 games to reach 100 for the MFC.

Will he get there... ?

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:06, Satyriconhome said:

Even had a bit of fun

 

How would your 'friendship' with TMac progress in your mind if he told you to feck off and kicked you square in the plums? I assume you would make him a beneficiary in your will if that were to happen.

Edited June 29, 20186 yr by Colin B. Flaubert

  On 29/06/2018 at 09:11, ProDee said:

He needs 4 games to reach 100 for the MFC.

Will he get there... ?

It's got to be doubtful it's a hard team to break into.

  On 29/06/2018 at 09:00, WERRIDEE said:

So Pedersen is emergency and Vince plays in the VFL. When was the last time Vince has played in the VFL? His career is almost over unfortunately for old Vince.

i reckon he should be managed and rested from the vfl this week. a freshening up would do him good at his age

  On 29/06/2018 at 02:12, kevin martin said:

I prefer not to talk to them unless they are open to forming a genuine friendship. Already plenty of sycophants around. I am just writing what I observe. He trained well, other than that recovery period. Did you see him turn pink?

Lol!

Kev, your reports are the best I have read on Land. Please keep up the good work and ignore the trash talkers

  On 29/06/2018 at 09:18, Colin B. Flaubert said:

How would your 'friendship' with TMac progress in your mind if he told you to feck off and kicked you square in the plums? I assume you would make him a beneficiary in your will if that were to happen.

It's not friendship, I talk to him at functions and training, like a lot of the other players, spoke to at least six on Thursday, of course it was about the World Cup with Christian Salem