Post Match Discussion - Round 14

[Mickey 4,684]

5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

O Mac can accept a $2000 fine for the Marshall clash. Careless conduct with low impact to the head as judged by Mr MRO. 

Some of us believed it didn’t deserve a 50m penalty. I thought you were allowed to compete for the ball. What’s one to do when in midair? Stick out an elbow out like Jeremy Cameron?

I didn't think it deserved anything. He had already left the ground and wasn't that late. The 50 was too harsh, but the club will likely just accept this

[Skuit 10,031]

A selection of Demonland comments regarding the standard of umpiring vs. Port:

Nicholls is a cheating dog.

Curl up and d^^ Nicholls.

Nicholls again. Dead set [censored]

Nicholls must be investigated.

The club must step up and make a complaint about that cheating dog Nicholls....Blatantly favouring Port.

I can't remember leaving a Matthew Nicholls game happy that it has been officiated well.

From the very start of the third quarter, it was just a string of dodgy calls from this pin-head - call after call after call against us.

Excuse my language, but that umpire Nicholls is a [censored] [censored] camel [censored] [censored] stain

Blatant cheats. Nicholls is the worst, before the Port game he waved and winked to two Port fans in the crowd. 

I hate Nicholls- he's a trounced up affront to humanity.

Those comments were from last year

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by Skuit

[SFebes 4,884]

6 minutes ago, Skuit said:

A selection of Demonland comments regarding the standard of umpiring vs. Port:

Nicholls is a cheating dog.

Curl up and d^^ Nicholls.

Nicholls again. Dead set [censored]

Nicholls must be investigated.

The club must step up and make a complaint about that cheating dog Nicholls....Blatantly favouring Port.

I can't remember leaving a Matthew Nicholls game happy that it has been officiated well.

From the very start of the third quarter, it was just a string of dodgy calls from this pin-head - call after call after call against us.

Excuse my language, but that umpire Nicholls is a [censored] [censored] camel [censored] [censored] stain

Blatant cheats. Nicholls is the worst, before the Port game he waved and winked to two Port fans in the crowd. 

I hate Nicholls- he's a trounced up affront to humanity.

Those comments were from last year

 

Interesting, I’d forgotten about that game, how coincidental 

[Chook 15,013]

46 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

That blokes cut-off tweet is telling. Richmond lost 3 very close games that they could have won. We've lost 1 (maybe 2 if you count the Port game). We're a bit off where they were at this time last year, and they were in no way flying then.

[SFebes 4,884]

We don’t have Riewoldt, Cotchin, Rance or Dusty....

Just B grade plodders and leaders who can’t hide quick enough when we need them.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Some of you guys take things too literally.

The tweet isn't necessarily comparing us exactly to the Tigers.  It simply suggests that there is plenty of the season left and there have been other teams, in similar positions, who in the past have overcome it.  Some make finals, some win a few of those finals and, in the Tigers case, they won a flag.  Doesn't mean we'll do the same.  It means that we can still make some noise if we wish to and have a terrific back end to the season.

[Diamond_Jim 12,592]

Not laying the blame at JH's feet for our last two losses but his onfield presence was a major part of our recent run of success.

He has the ability as we all know. Up to the coaches to get it right. A quarter on the ball or down back for a little while.. whatever it takes but without him in form we will struggle

[Dr. Gonzo 24,227]

11 hours ago, Call Me What You Will said:

Max has tweeted this morning that at least we didn’t “trash the brand” as we have done in the past. Wow, that is such a relief. I can get on with life, snap out of my anger and depression about last night and thoroughly enjoy the rest of the weekend knowing that our “brand” is secure. I absolutely love Max, but fair dinkum.......

Sometimes you lose games, doesn't mean the team is cooked, club has no heart etc

I was filthy last night because it was a game we should've won. We didn't take advantage of our opportunities/ dominance and made some stupid decisions/lacked composure. Once the pain if the loss subsides though I'm actually proud of the fight the team showed, especially in the last when it felt like our players were going down left and right, the umpires were giving us nothing and Port had 40k supporters willing them over the line.

That's the second game this year we "should've" won but lost. We'll be 6th after this round at 8-5. We really should be 2nd (=1st) at 10-3. It's frustrating but it's not the end of the world/season. We'll make finals and get that much needed September experience/belief that we can actually do it. We get a chance to make amends in Adelaide in a month or so.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,227]

4 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Why are so many people frothing at the mouth for Garlett?  

He has shown, time and time again, that he goes missing in big games and when the heat is on.  How many big games over the last few years has he not shown up for?  His form has been average at best at Casey, and in a hotly contested, hard tackling game like last night, he would have had more chance of not giving us anything than being some sort of match winner.

The issue isn't what we're doing when the ball hits the deck, it's the way we create space for each other and the delivery inside 50.  Garlett wouldn't have change much of that, and unless he is ripping it up at Casey, I'd continue to look elsewhere.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder

[Beetle 4,660]

4 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Why are so many people frothing at the mouth for Garlett?  

He has shown, time and time again, that he goes missing in big games and when the heat is on.  How many big games over the last few years has he not shown up for?  His form has been average at best at Casey, and in a hotly contested, hard tackling game like last night, he would have had more chance of not giving us anything than being some sort of match winner.

The issue isn't what we're doing when the ball hits the deck, it's the way we create space for each other and the delivery inside 50.  Garlett wouldn't have change much of that, and unless he is ripping it up at Casey, I'd continue to look elsewhere.

Annoys the [censored] out of me. Bloke sleeps with the light on, has zero recent form playing in the Reserves and has played one decent game in the Seniors this year against Brisbane. But he has speed of course...speed isn’t much good when you can’t get the ball.

Edited June 23, 2018 by Beetle

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6 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Sometimes you lose games, doesn't mean the team is cooked, club has no heart etc

I was filthy last night because it was a game we should've won. We didn't take advantage of our opportunities/ dominance and made some stupid decisions/lacked composure. Once the pain if the loss subsides though I'm actually proud of the fight the team showed, especially in the last when it felt like our players were going down left and right, the umpires were giving us nothing and Port had 40k supporters willing them over the line.

That's the second game this year we "should've" won but lost. We'll be 6th after this round at 8-5. We really should be 2nd (=1st) at 10-3. It's frustrating but it's not the end of the world/season. We'll make finals and get that much needed September experience/belief that we can actually do it. We get a chance to make amends in Adelaide in a month or so.

The continued faith we make the finals is admirable 

crazy, but admirable

[Bravo Oliver, Bravo 182]

On 6/23/2018 at 9:02 AM, shorty said:

 

Don't know how many times two players fighting for the same ground ball.

 

 

This

[beelzebub 23,380]

13 hours ago, timbo said:

Name names!

Sorry Timbo...had a lengthy reply last night then hit wrong window..

( Problems with phone...be aware any and all...the Pixel has PROBLEMS !! )

anyhow..

The biggest offender is Petracca. Needs to go find his appetite for a whole game of efforts back in the Magoos ( reboot )

ANB is a yoyo. Classic flat tracker...game going well..he shines.Game going septic...lost at sea.

Was an advocate of Dom a long while. Much of his contribution goes unseen...but he's no Champagne Footballer currently...all fizz..no pop.

Jones for allhis gusto and flying of flags is a serial offender of turning it over... beyond normal.

Lets play Jesse-lotto !!!

Salem needs to step up to his capabilities...he flies under radars as more/others draw the light. Waxs and Wanes 

A number have contracted the fumbles..is odd.

The Smiths were a good group...not lighting the stage up for us.

Another offender is the guy in the box. The seeming inability to step outside of this "brand" rubbish and learn to tailor to requirements is very Moby Dick. Hinkley must have salivated that we didn't adapt.

There were a number of areas where we lost. We had no control over the abysmal umpiring. We DID have control over selection ( even Simon conceded it was wrong...in hindsight...some here saw it immediately on Thursday !! )

We had control over setup and style.

What is it they say a out repeating same and expecting a different outcome ?

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Sorry Timbo...had a lengthy reply last night then hit wrong window..

( Problems with phone...be aware any and all...the Pixel has PROBLEMS !! )

anyhow..

The biggest offender is Petracca. Needs to go find his appetite for a whole game of efforts back in the Magoos ( reboot )

ANB is a yoyo. Classic flat tracker...game going well..he shines.Game going septic...lost at sea.

Was an advocate of Dom a long while. Much of his contribution goes unseen...but he's no Champagne Footballer currently...all fizz..no pop.

Jones for allhis gusto and flying of flags is a serial offender of turning it over... beyond normal.

Lets play Jesse-lotto !!!

Salem needs to step up to his capabilities...he flies under radars as more/others draw the light. Waxs and Wanes 

A number have contracted the fumbles..is odd.

The Smiths were a good group...not lighting the stage up for us.

Another offender is the guy in the box. The seeming inability to step outside of this "brand" rubbish and learn to tailor to requirements is very Moby Dick. Hinkley must have salivated that we didn't adapt.

There were a number of areas where we lost. We had no control over the abysmal umpiring. We DID have control over selection ( even Simon conceded it was wrong...in hindsight...some here saw it immediately on Thursday !! )

We had control over setup and style.

What is it they say a out repeating same and expecting a different outcome ?

What a load of twaddle

1. Westoff exploited the lack of height in defence a couple of times

2. We went back to the old habit of bombing it into the 50, easy fix

 

[beelzebub 23,380]

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

What a load of twaddle

1. Westoff exploited the lack of height in defence a couple of times

2. We went back to the old habit of bombing it into the 50, easy fix

 

Easy fix...yet he didn't.

Goodwin admitted selection could have been better

Twaddle ?!...fron the man himself.

Stick to training

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

13 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Easy fix...yet he didn't.

Goodwin admitted selection could have been better

Twaddle ?!...fron the man himself.

Stick to training

Goodwin did admit, Westhoff exploited

My opinion

I go to training, the lower the eyes is a constant mantra, players need to listen

Edited June 24, 2018 by Satyriconhome

[picket fence 17,172]

26 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Goodwin did admit, Westhoff exploited

My opinion

I go to training, the lower the eyes is a constant mantra, players need to listen

Well imagine that I said pre game we would have to put the  breaks on Bloody Westhoff . If I can see it why cant the match committee??

It surely cant be that hard. If players aren't listening or up to it and continually make the same mistakes then DROP THEM!!!

This happens time and agin it was a perceived danger than put some more thought into match ups 

CHEEZUS!!

Edited June 24, 2018 by picket fence

[Mardo 46]

Went to the game at Adelaide from Perth. It was a personal hell. Umpiring made me almost walk out. The poor delivery skills and decision making by the Dees ( when critical )

compounded it. 

At the end of the day it seems you cant hang your hat on 'stats'. It is quality and not quantity that wins games. 

A Game that I dont know if I could bare to rewatch or review....

Sad Face.....

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

47 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well imagine that I said pre game we would have to put the  breaks on Bloody Westhoff . If I can see it why cant the match committee??

It surely cant be that hard. If players aren't listening or up to it and continually make the same mistakes then DROP THEM!!!

This happens time and agin it was a perceived danger than put some more thought into match ups 

CHEEZUS!!

Picket, it's pressure, we need games like Friday night to learn to absorb and keep the skills high

Would assume it was thought we could cover Westhoff, but unfortunately didn't work a couple of times, having a minute or two walk and then a 30sec on top helps you kick goals though

Goodwin said in hindsight perhaps we should have gone taller, he learns as well, still haven't got the Lever missing sorted

[shorty 233]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

What a load of twaddle

1. Westoff exploited the lack of height in defence a couple of times

2. We went back to the old habit of bombing it into the 50, easy fix

 

Westoff always kicks two goals against us, said it before the start, if Port only kicked two goals for the game , he still would get both of them, already pencilled him in for next year , wonder what the odds are.

Gee I would give my left nut for a player who could kick a goal from outside 50 consistently. Worth there weight in gold, look at Sicily's goals last week. We need one of those classy finishes badly.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

1 hour ago, Mardo said:

Went to the game at Adelaide from Perth. It was a personal hell. Umpiring made me almost walk out. The poor delivery skills and decision making by the Dees ( when critical )

compounded it. 

At the end of the day it seems you cant hang your hat on 'stats'. It is quality and not quantity that wins games. 

A Game that I dont know if I could bare to rewatch or review....

Sad Face.....

Respect for travelling all that way to see your team

But, surely you enjoyed the contest? Every player did not take a backward's step, in a sniping, hostile environment! Even Jack flipped Dixon!

This intensity is now a minimum

I have some optimism now

[Willmoy1947 4,098]

15 hours ago, SFebey said:

Interesting, I’d forgotten about that game, how coincidental 

This year, i didn't even see him in the picture most times on TV, but you just knew who was going to come into it, in a second or two, from 50 plus mtrs away.

[Demons11 7,030]

16 hours ago, SFebey said:

We don’t have Riewoldt, Cotchin, Rance or Dusty....

Just B grade plodders and leaders who can’t hide quick enough when we need them.

You are kidding mate.

[SFebes 4,884]

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

You are kidding mate.

No I’m not, we have no stars to win games. And we especially don’t have any leaders to do it, they go missing. Just my thoughts, not here to argue. Think we need a bit of a rejig 

[beelzebub 23,380]

8 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

You are kidding mate.

By way of interest...ours ???