On 21/07/2018 at 14:27, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

What!!!????

What about the mysterious ruck free to Hawkins for a goal, the chopped arms ( still a mark ) to TMac dead in front, and the 50 against Harmes as he desperately tried to get away, resulting in a goal???

Also there was a trip by a Geelong player diving on the ball, also dead in front.

We were lucky on one occasion when Jetta interfered running back with the flight, though he tried to watch the ball.

Who cares, it all didnt matter because we were up by 2 points when JKH sprayed it across the face, Up by 3 when Garlett got his snap spoiled through. We had the game to win and didnt take it.

  On 21/07/2018 at 14:38, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Who cares, it all didnt matter because we were up by 2 points when JKH sprayed it across the face, Up by 3 when Garlett got his snap spoiled through. We had the game to win and didnt take it.

yeah, yeah yeah.  Glad we have a supporter who doesn't mind bad umpiring.    Yes we made mistakes and lost the match. Doesn't mean that gifted goals to the oppo and missed frees in front for us are irrelevant to the result. 

  On 22/07/2018 at 00:20, sue said:

yeah, yeah yeah.  Glad we have a supporter who doesn't mind bad umpiring.    Yes we made mistakes and lost the match. Doesn't mean that gifted goals to the oppo and missed frees in front for us are irrelevant to the result. 

Agree Sue. 

One glaring consistency in all of our 4 close losses is gifted goals to the opposition and several taken off us or not paid. 6 goals each to Port and Saints and one to us. Yesterday at least 4 off free kicks or the next kick after the free. Marks not paid, frees missed to us. 

Yes we also share blame, but am looking forward to a game where it goes the other way and the opposition blame the umpires for losing to us. 

  On 22/07/2018 at 01:17, Redleg said:

Agree Sue. 

One glaring consistency in all of our 4 close losses is gifted goals to the opposition and several taken off us or not paid. 6 goals each to Port and Saints and one to us. Yesterday at least 4 off free kicks or the next kick after the free. Marks not paid, frees missed to us. 

Yes we also share blame, but am looking forward to a game where it goes the other way and the opposition blame the umpires for losing to us. 

So today we find out Harmes has a broken  hand probably from having the ball kicked out of his hands in the last quarter. No free play on and Geelong get a goal.

Our young first year player gets smashed by Hawkins while laying on the ground. Hawkins gets off.

Plus the rest of the bulls#$t frees on Saturday night and the club does nothing.

We're so polite and soft off the field as well. Why doesn't our club stand up for our players?

Meanwhile at the NRL coaches call it like it is and refs get dropped when they fup.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/greenberg-tells-referees-to-be-better-as-axe-poised-over-sutton-20180723-p4zt5k.html

How many times over the course of a round of football will a player 'take a mark' and stop, despite the umpires screaming 'touched, touched, touched'? The result of every single one of these is benefit of the doubt, player didn't hear it.

Then in a ruck contest, Geelong nominate a confusing ruck, that ruck then runs at his opposite number, rather than the ruck contest, and is paid a free kick for blocking. Where the [censored] is the benefit of the doubt? Not one player had any idea Dangerdick was rucking.

At least we know how to fix up our i50-goal conversion. Every stoppage inside forward 50, nominate whoever is being tagged and get them to run at the tagger. Free kick - goal.

I still think Ablett quite clearly pushed Brayshaw in the back when Brayshaw went in to get it in that last 30 seconds.

We've seen tackles like that get called for pushes in the back repeatedly in the last few weeks. Ablett didn't even try to roll him over like Salem did when he got pinged last week against the Dogs.

Nothing is as bad as the protected zone 50m penalty against Harmes, though.

3 dopey [censored] afl rule changes resulting in 3 goals for jeelong

1. Third man up rule - staged by dangermouse

2. Protected area rule - what did harmes do wrong

3. Deliberate point rule - looked like harmes was under pressure to me given he was tackled

Stupid dumb bloody rule changes with inadequate foresight or interpretation are ruining the game

not to say cost us the game

The maggots are compromised by the AFL, and they haven't got the guts to own up to it. Fancy telling your kids you umpired a hundred games of AFL and you cheated to favor one side over another..........sleep well.

Third quarter,6 min to go.

25 m from our goal, Kelly dives on the ball, Salem trips over him,flat  on his face.

Isnt that a free to Salem.?(30 m out,45degree angle).........v likely a goal, and , in the end, we win.

  On 23/07/2018 at 12:04, Brownie said:

So today we find out Harmes has a broken  hand probably from having the ball kicked out of his hands in the last quarter. No free play on and Geelong get a goal.

Our young first year player gets smashed by Hawkins while laying on the ground. Hawkins gets off.

Plus the rest of the bulls#$t frees on Saturday night and the club does nothing.

We're so polite and soft off the field as well. Why doesn't our club stand up for our players?

Meanwhile at the NRL coaches call it like it is and refs get dropped when they fup.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/greenberg-tells-referees-to-be-better-as-axe-poised-over-sutton-20180723-p4zt5k.html

But the AFL is ahead of the NRL where the teams employ ex-referees to coach players into how to cheat.  Some AFL clubs don't use ex-refs, they get the active umps to do it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-24/nrl-clubs-accused-of-coaching-players-to-cheat/10029500

  On 24/07/2018 at 06:13, sue said:

But the AFL is ahead of the NRL where the teams employ ex-referees to coach players into how to cheat.  Some AFL clubs don't use ex-refs, they get the active umps to do it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-24/nrl-clubs-accused-of-coaching-players-to-cheat/10029500

I've got two things i like to watch, Anderson Cooper for mirth and the AFL Footy for hope. I am now becoming quite desperate about the latter.

Gotta hand it to the Boys in yellow tonight. The were not as noticeable, but just as hopeless. Tried their best in the dying stages to change history, but to no avail thanks to Eddie and the rain.............

Does anyone have a stat for free kicks in final quarter the last two weeks ?

im sure it’s somthing like 15-4

There were several incorrect disposal decisions not paid against The Crows in the first half that had my 2 young kids scared s@$!less such was my rage at the TV. 

Infuriating.

  On 28/07/2018 at 22:04, Hell Bent said:

There were several incorrect disposal decisions not paid against The Crows in the first half that had my 2 young kids scared s@$!less such was my rage at the TV. 

Infuriating.

There were two instances in the last quarter where there crow players with the ball did not make any kind of legitimate disposal, yet were not penalised as a result. On the other hand, at least one Melbourne incorrect disposal in the last quarter was ignored too. Is it only paid on a whim by these  disgraceful excuses for umpires??

They're working to a poorly written set of rules, have been overseen for years by people who don't actually know the rules themselves, are compromised by imperatives from "on high" to make the game "entertaining", have a suspect training regime, and are permitted conflicts of interest. All overlaid by the bizarre existence of ever-changing "interpretations" of the rules.

Is it any wonder that refereeing of games appears mostly random, seasoned with a healthy dose of home town decisions?

Some strange and absurd situations in sport that we'll never see.

In tennis, one end of the court is doused in water for one game then dried off again

In soccer, one goal area is doubled in size for 5 minutes

In snooker, an extra pocket appears right in the centre of the table in the middle of a break

In basketball, the ring is lower at one end of the court for the final 2 minutes

In AFL Aussie rules, the games are refereed by AFL trained umpires

The best one- Adelaide plays on to advantage. Ball moves to next contest where Crows are beaten.  Umpire calls it back after about 15 seconds.  They Cannot Do That!

the deliberate oob, and not calling all the Crows incorrect disposals.  Frosty was stiff to give up that goal after the calls of the previous 5 minutes.  Plucked from the anus for maximum goal scoring opportunity 

Even that soft as butter 50.  

We still won.

agree the advantage call by the umpires was absolute crap.  When they played on they took the advantage of the melbourne players stopping for the whistle. 

  On 28/07/2018 at 23:32, buck_nekkid said:

The best one- Adelaide plays on to advantage. Ball moves to next contest where Crows are beaten.  Umpire calls it back after about 15 seconds.  They Cannot Do That!

the deliberate oob, and not calling all the Crows incorrect disposals.  Frosty was stiff to give up that goal after the calls of the previous 5 minutes.  Plucked from the anus for maximum goal scoring opportunity

It really is unbelievable, or it would be if we didn't see similar outrages every match, every week

The umpiring is in crisis and the AFL's answer is to paint more lines on the ground

In our game against Geelong when the Geelong player was kicking for goal after the siren and we had about 10 players on or behind the mark. Would it be legal to have had players behind the mark held up a tall player on their shoulders to make the man behind the mark another 2 feet taller, not only off-putting but would require the kicker to change their trajectory, given they cannot run around? 

Ai thought the umpiring was reasonable last night they got a few calls in the last quarter but with the wind and tide going in Adelaides direction and a feral crowd they held up pretty well .

Stevic is one of the most even handed refs and I'd be happy to see him out there for us more often

Last night the game was let go with lots of iffy calls ignored .

Of course Gusses new mate Razor would be welcome too

 

 

  On 28/07/2018 at 23:40, Deecisive said:

In our game against Geelong when the Geelong player was kicking for goal after the siren and we had about 10 players on or behind the mark. Would it be legal to have had players behind the mark held up a tall player on their shoulders to make the man behind the mark another 2 feet taller, not only off-putting but would require the kicker to change their trajectory, given they cannot run around? 

It depends on whether it's Selwood, Dangerfield, or Martin doing it, or if it's at an Adelaide or WCE home game (although ... the ump would never permit a free against so close to goal at the death).

  On 28/07/2018 at 23:43, deesrule said:

Ai thought the umpiring was reasonable last night they got a few calls in the last quarter but with the wind and tide going in Adelaides direction and a feral crowd they held up pretty well .

Stevic is one of the most even handed refs and I'd be happy to see him out there for us more often

Last night the game was let go with lots of iffy calls ignored .

Of course Gusses new mate Razor would be welcome too

 

 

Have a look at the disposal by Gibbs that went to Eddie in the last minute. Best one handed throw you will ever see and of course not paid, shortly after Jones pinged for throwing on the wing. 

Overall the frees were 22 to 15 some bad ones but overall the game was let go 

I still remember 22 to 1 against us in the first half in WA several years ago now that's creative umpiring