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My 3 word player analysis V Collingwood

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Pedersen - Worst on ground

O.McDonald - Pathetic on Cox

T.McDonald - Only good player

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    Very harsh on Gawn.  He smashed Grundy for most of the match, to the point that they stopped letting him take centre bounces and put Cox in there instead.  Grundy racked up some cheap numbers rucking against Pedersen which makes his stats look more respectable, but the only thing he had over Gawn today was his tackle count. 

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    3 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

    I'll echo the others and say you were very harsh on Smith.

    Also Gus sacrificed himself today to tag Phillips out of the game.  It meant he wasn't as prolific with the ball, but Phillips has been on fire and he shut him completely out of the game.  He deserves some credit for that.

    Gus tagged who - hunter or hunted ?

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    3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Interesting coaching move to put your most recently prolific ball getter in a tagging role.

    Needs to be analysed a little more methinks

    I’m not sure how many of you were actually at the match but outside of the centre bounce Brayshaw was never within 20 metres of Phillips so I doubt he was tagging him unless he is as blind as a bat.

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    1 hour ago, Big Demon said:

    I’m not sure how many of you were actually at the match but outside of the centre bounce Brayshaw was never within 20 metres of Phillips so I doubt he was tagging him unless he is as blind as a bat.

    Wiseblood put that forward as the reason why Brayshaw played a low possession game.

    I listened to the match so please correct us if this was wrong.

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    7 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    Wiseblood put that forward as the reason why Brayshaw played a low possession game.

    I listened to the match so please correct us if this was wrong.

    Absolutely wrong, as I said aside from the centre bounces they were nowhere near each other, Brayshaw was standing around watching Oliver, Viney, Harmes and Jones bust their balls trying to win the game for him. If he really had of had a role he might have found the energy to lay a single tackle some time over 120 minutes.

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    9 hours ago, Big Demon said:

    I’m not sure how many of you were actually at the match but outside of the centre bounce Brayshaw was never within 20 metres of Phillips so I doubt he was tagging him unless he is as blind as a bat.

    Correct. 

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    Smith - deer in headlights. (But, definitely showed enough to persist with him. It must be hard for inexperienced players to transition from VFL to AFL level football. Loved his desire and his effort but he doesn't know what to do with the ball when he has it. Nevertheless, I saw enough to believe he can make it.)

    Pedersen - retirement beckons, soon

    Lewis - clearly our best. (Why do we mark him so hard when he makes a couple of disposal errors when so much of his disposal was first rate?)

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    I honestly don't understand why the same old sad sacks read this thread when they know what they are going to get each week.

    For what its worth I think joeboy consistently does an excellent job and I thank him for his contribution.

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    Why does everyone think Grundy got Gawn? I didn't notice one ruck get a serious hold of the other on the day. Stats aren't everything but they support this. 5 more hitouts to Grundy, Gawk kicked a goal. Also, Grundy's great strength is getting touches around the ground, and Gawn beat him on that count too.

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    41 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

    Why does everyone think Grundy got Gawn? I didn't notice one ruck get a serious hold of the other on the day. Stats aren't everything but they support this. 5 more hitouts to Grundy, Gawk kicked a goal. Also, Grundy's great strength is getting touches around the ground, and Gawn beat him on that count too.

    I agree, it ended up being a scrap and on that note broke even, fizzer IMO.

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    Fritsch-Have a spell.

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    4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Smith - deer in headlights. (But, definitely showed enough to persist with him. It must be hard for inexperienced players to transition from VFL to AFL level football. Loved his desire and his effort but he doesn't know what to do with the ball when he has it. Nevertheless, I saw enough to believe he can make it.)

    Pedersen - retirement beckons, soon

    Lewis - clearly our best. (Why do we mark him so hard when he makes a couple of disposal errors when so much of his disposal was first rate?)

    How would you rate his defensive pressure and his rebound? Both fundamental for a medium defender in 2018. 

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    Jesse Hogan is simply not competitive in the air when the ball comes in high and he is flat footed.

    At his best when on the move which makes in a Centre Half Forward  for mine.

    Weidemann in for Pederson to play Full Forward and give Gawny a rest. Hogan to Centre Half Forward . Tommy Mac roaming the forward half.

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    24 minutes ago, Biffen said:

    Fritsch-Have a spell.

    He is not alone, that's the problem.

    Other than for injury, we don't have the capacity to drop all the players that need a spell. 

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    15 minutes ago, demoniac said:

    Jesse Hogan is simply not competitive in the air when the ball comes in high and he is flat footed.

    At his best when on the move which makes in a Centre Half Forward  for mine.

    Weidemann in for Pederson to play Full Forward and give Gawny a rest. Hogan to Centre Half Forward . Tommy Mac roaming the forward half.

    Agreed. 

    Weed in. 

    At the present rate, Maxy will not get through the season. Fatigue or injury shadows him with every game.

    Weed in will at least provide him with some relief.

     

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    20 hours ago, joeboy said:

    Jones - totally lacked finesse

    Viney - taught a lesson

    Hannan - was mostly irrelevant 

    Harmes - probably not playing

    Neal-Bullen - was rarely noticed

    Gawn - tried but overwhelmed

    Oliver - prolific but wasteful

    Brayshaw - no heroics today

    Spargo - bambi amongst wolves

    Petracca - continued disappointing season

    Salem - rarely imbued confidence

    @joeboy 

    The above edited post is to highlight our midfield presence (or lack of)

    Obviously not all of the above players played in the midfield all day but all ran through the central part of the ground either periodically or for a greater part of the day.

    I may have missed 1 or 2 players and/or included 1 or 2 who may have predominantly played back or forward but the reality is that not one player had a stand-out day or was highly influential. 

    I don't necessarily agree with your individual appraisals either but you're not far off the mark (as a collective) so its academic anyway. 

    We were taken to the cleaners by their midfield - clearance numbers ...

    • 8 - Adams
    • 7 - Treloar
    • 6 - Oliver
    • 5 - Mayne
    • 5 - Sidebottom
    • 4 - Grundy
    • 4 - de Goey
    • 4 - Viney

    Edited by Macca

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    19 hours ago, joeboy said:

    Jones - totally lacked finesse

    Viney - taught a lesson

    T.McDonald - wonderful second half

    Hannan - was mostly irrelevant 

    Harmes - probably not playing

    Neal-Bullen - was rarely noticed

    Fritsch - not the worst

    Gawn - tried but overwhelmed

    Oliver - prolific but wasteful

    Brayshaw - no heroics today

    Hogan - slow and confused

    Melksham - lost at sea

    Spargo - bambi amongst wolves

    Hibberd - fumbled and erred

    Jetta - loose and slow

    Lewis - tried but friendless

    O.McDonald - close to horrible

    Pedersen - game has passed

    Petracca - continued disappointing season

    Salem - rarely imbued confidence 

    Smith - little to commend

    Vince - gave us nothing 

    conclusion of this BS

    When we lose everyone played bad and when we win everyone was great. 

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