OUR BEST 22

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

Viney says we don't know our best 22 yet so I'll give it a stab.

B: LEVER, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, PEDERSEN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, SALEM, FRITSCH, SPARGO

Jumping the gun a bit with Spargo considering he hasn't played a game yet but I just can't bring myself to put in Vince, Lewis or Wagner in considering their form.

Thoughts?

[praha 11,240]

Starting to feel of this team as I do looking back at the 2010-2011 team. Full of potential but in hindsight, just maybe not that good (yet).

Anyway here is mine.

B: SALEM, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, LEVER, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, T MCDONALD, PEDERSEN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, WEIDEMAN, FRITSCH, HANNAN

 

Big omissions: Vince, Lewis, ANB

[Adzman 2,154]

 

Viney says we don't know our best 22 yet so I'll give it a stab.

B: LEVER, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, PEDERSEN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, SALEM, FRITSCH, SPARGO

Jumping the gun a bit with Spargo considering he hasn't played a game yet but I just can't bring myself to put in Vince, Lewis or Wagner in considering their form.

Thoughts?

Might be a tad tall/slow. I think you will get quite a bit of support around Vince and Lewis not being in the same side, both have performed well below their skillset. I still think Goodwin plays one each week, but days could be numbered for both unless both reverse form ASAP.

I don't have anything to offer for best 22 other than if we drop the Essendon game, we need to start getting games into players like Baker, Fritsch, Spargo to see how they handle it. 

It's still early, but if we can't beat Essendon we are not going to be top 8 material, and need to access the kids on the list.

[SFebes 4,884]

B: LEVER, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

 HB: HIBBERD, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

C : SALEM, OLIVER, TYSON

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, PETRACCA

 FOLL: GAWN, JONES, VINEY

 IC: BRAYSHAW, FRITSCH, HANNAN

[RedBlueandTrue 359]

FB Lewis, Omac, Nev

HB Hunt, Jakey, Hib

C Jones, Clarry, Trac

HF ANB, Hoges, Iceman

FF Jeffy, Tmac, Créme F

F Gawn, Vines, Tyson

int. Hannan, Kent, Gus, Stretch (with confidence, fingers crossed)

 

[deeko 952]

The only certainties for me are:

FB:  Jetta.   OMac.    Lever

HB:  Hibberd.  ???     ???

Cen:   ????        Oliver.      ???

HF:    ???     Hogan.   Petracca

FF:   ???     TMac.    ???

Ruck: Gawn, Jones, Viney

 

Just pick whoever is fit/in form for the rest as they are far to unpredictable.

Im positive on the Weid being a lock from next year so hopefully T Mac will go back to CHB and our spine will be set for the next 6-8 years.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

 

The only certainties for me are:

FB:  Jetta.   OMac.    Lever

HB:  Hibberd.  ???     ???

Cen:   ????        Oliver.      ???

HF:    ???     Hogan.   Petracca

FF:   ???     TMac.    ???

Ruck: Gawn, Jones, Viney

 

Just pick whoever is fit/in form for the rest as they are far to unpredictable.

Im positive on the Weid being a lock from next year so hopefully T Mac will go back to CHB and our spine will be set for the next 6-8 years.

 

A lot of ? It's probably why we are 14th ATM.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,704]

We dont have a best 22

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

 

We dont have a best 22

I think we have a best 19 with Pedersen and Kent out of favour a lot of the time and Fritsch yet to prove himself and the 22nd player is anyone's guess.

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

B: HIBBERD, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: BRAYSHAW, LEVER, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, T.MCDONALD

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: SALEM, FRITSCH, SPARGO, J.LEWIS

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

B: J.LEWIS, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, LEVER, SALEM

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: HANNAN, HOGAN, SPARGO

F: MELKSHAM, T.MCDONALD, FRITSCH

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, HUNT, KENT, GARLETT

 

VFL

B: J.SMITH, FROST, KEILTY

HB: VINCE, PETTY, J.WAGNER

C : STRETCH, MAYNARD, BAKER

HF: BALIC, T.SMITH, VANDENBERG

F: PEDERSEN, WEIDEMAN, BUGG

FOLL: KING, NEAL-BULLEN, HARMES

IC: KENNEDY HARRIS, MCKENNA, JOHNSTONE, FILIPOVIC

[The Chazz 4,077]

Are you going to put a new team up each week? Please let me know so I can put this thread on ignore.

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

7 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Are you going to put a new team up each week? Please let me know so I can put this thread on ignore.

Did you really need to pitch it like that?? Just put it on ignore if it doesnt float your boat, without being a [censored] about it.

[SFebes 4,884]

21 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Are you going to put a new team up each week? Please let me know so I can put this thread on ignore.

 

13 minutes ago, Danelska said:

Did you really need to pitch it like that?? Just put it on ignore if it doesnt float your boat, without being a [censored] about it.

Can you actually put threads on ignore? How? 

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

4 minutes ago, SFebey said:

 

Can you actually put threads on ignore? How? 

I do it, by not hovering my cursor over it and not pressing the button. 

In all seriousness, I don't think there is an automated way of doing so. The ignore person one is magnificent however.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

Are you going to put a new team up each week? Please let me know so I can put this thread on ignore.

You can let yourself know. 

Cheers.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Good thread. 

It'll always be in a state of flux.

As I’ve said countless times, inside mids playing stop gap roles, (ANB and Tyson) is not an answer going forward.

These guys might be playing there now, but over the next couple of years, our core will stay the same and we’ll keep adding jigsaw pieces like we’ve done with Hibberd, Lever, Spargo and Fritsch etc.

Vince and Lewis were needed for experience and leadership, but their positions will be up for grabs over the next year or so.

I’d rather outline the core of a 22 and leave some positions open that will be filled over the next two to three seasons.

B          Jetta          O Mac         

HB       Hibberd      Lever        Salem

C           Hunt           Viney         

HF        Spargo       Hogan        

FF        Garlett     Weideman    Petracca

 

FOLL    Gawn         Oliver        Brayshaw 

INT       T - Mac     Jones    

 

Obvs there are a lot of gaps with many players vying for spots.

Melksham, Fritsch, ANB and Hannan are all jostling for that half forward role. None of them have announced themselves though, with only Fritsch being the one that excites me most. I also think he has the potential to play wing depending on his running capacity going forward.

I believe that over the next year or so we need to target a player who is suited to a wing. A hard running skilled player. I’ve put Hunt on one wing for speed. We need more running power and players who can genuinely break games open with their run as our midfield is very one-paced and we’ve been cut up by teams through that area of the ground on many occasions.

I’ve left Vince and Lewis out of the side. Their form is now on the decline and so that back pocket position is up for grabs and I’d love to get another defender in the mould of Lewis/Vince, just a younger version.

It’s easy to forget how young our core is and is a major reason why we’re still so up and down. The impatience comes from so many past rebuilds like this and I’m guilty of being impatient and wanting results now.

But if you look at this group: O-Mac, Lever, Salem, Hunt, Viney, Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver, Hogan and Weideman. 10 players who are all in a similar age bracket, half haven’t hit 50 games and none have hit 100. Think about that for a minute. That’s genuinely scary. Especially given that there are some keen media people who had us finishinb top four this year.

There are bookends in that group and a bunch of midfielders. It’s clear that the clubs blueprint is to keep this group together for as long as possible and build around them. Once they hit 100 games we’ll start to see more consistency in our performances. And from there, anything is possible as long as we’re smart with our trading and drafting.

Building a strong club has to start with a young core group that come through together. We’re not as fortunate as other clubs in the leadership department so our leaders will be born from this group. Viney already standing out as the one who is going to drag us along. 

I can be negative about our club and usually am. But when I think about where we’re ‘actually’ at rather than we’re the media predict or think we ‘should’ be, I get excited. Patience is the last word I want to hear as a suffering MFC supporter. But it’s clearly needed when looking at our list in this light.

Happy Friday, go Dees.

Edited May 3, 2018 by stevethemanjordan

[jnrmac 20,109]

No such thing as a best 22.

It depends on who you are playing, who is available, who is in form, the deck you are playing on and even the weather. It's rare to have all your players available and even rarer to have them all in form.

[Deemania since 56 6,682]

On 4/26/2018 at 3:57 AM, WERRIDEE said:

Viney says we don't know our best 22 yet so I'll give it a stab.

B: LEVER, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: HIBBERD, T.MCDONALD, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, PEDERSEN

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: BRAYSHAW, SALEM, FRITSCH, SPARGO

Jumping the gun a bit with Spargo considering he hasn't played a game yet but I just can't bring myself to put in Vince, Lewis or Wagner in considering their form.

Thoughts?

Like this one heaps! It would be nice to include Frosty on the bench, and Harmes as well but there just is not the room. Spargo, Fritz, Brayshaw, Salem provide some great interchanges but another tall would have been handy, perhaps. Wagner has some form and was settling at last - he would seem to be unlucky. Great to see Pedo in there, onfield, and maybe he could be an early rotation across a game and brought on for the match-winning last quarter. 

[DaveyDee 421]

B          Jetta          O Mac      Lewis   

HB       Hibberd      Lever        Hunt

C           Brayshaw   Jones      Petracca         

HF        Melksham   Hogan   Hannan     

FF        Garlett     T Mac    Fritsch

 

FOLL    Gawn         Oliver        Viney 

INT       Tyson  ANB  Spargo  Salem  

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Good thread. 

We won’t know until a couple announce themselves or we trade for some specific positional players.

As I’ve said countless times, inside mids playing stop gap roles, (ANB and Tyson) is not an answer going forward.

These guys might be playing there now, but over the next couple of years, our core will stay the same and we’ll keep adding jigsaw pieces like we’ve done with Hibberd, Lever, Spargo and Fritsch etc.

Vince and Lewis were needed for experience and leadership, but their positions will be up for grabs over the next year or so.

I’d rather outline the core of a 22 and leave some positions open that will be filled over the next two to three seasons.

B          Jetta          O Mac         

HB       Hibberd      Lever        Salem

C           Hunt           Viney         

HF        Spargo       Hogan        

FF        Garlett     Weideman    Petracca

 

FOLL    Gawn         Oliver        Brayshaw 

INT       T - Mac     Jones    

 

Obvs there are a lot of gaps with many players vying for spots.

Melksham, Fritsch, ANB and Hannan are all jostling for that half forward role. None of them have announced themselves though, with only Fritsch being the one that excites me most. I also think he has the potential to play wing depending on his running capacity going forward.

I believe that over the next year or so we need to target a player who is suited to a wing. A hard running skilled player. I’ve put Hunt on one wing for speed. We need more running power and players who can genuinely break games open with their run as our midfield is very one-paced and we’ve been cut up by teams through that area of the ground on many occasions.

I’ve left Vince and Lewis out of the side. Their form is now on the decline and so that back pocket position is up for grabs and I’d love to get another defender in the mould of Lewis/Vince, just a younger version.

It’s easy to forget how young our core is and is a major reason why we’re still so up and down. The impatience comes from so many past rebuilds like this and I’m guilty of being impatient and wanting results now.

But if you look at this group: O-Mac, Lever, Salem, Hunt, Viney, Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver, Hogan and Weideman. 10 players who are all in a similar age bracket, half haven’t hit 50 games and none have hit 100. Think about that for a minute. That’s genuinely scary. Especially given that there are some keen media people who had us finishinb top four this year.

There are bookends in that group and a bunch of midfielders. It’s clear that the clubs blueprint is to keep this group together for as long as possible and build around them. Once they hit 100 games we’ll start to see more consistency in our performances. And from there, anything is possible as long as we’re smart with our trading and drafting.

Building a strong club has to start with a young core group that come through together. We’re not as fortunate as other clubs in the leadership department so our leaders will be born from this group. Viney already standing out as the one who is going to drag us along. 

I can be negative about our club and usually am. But when I think about where we’re ‘actually’ at rather than we’re the media predict or think we ‘should’ be, I get excited. Patience is the last word I want to hear as a suffering MFC supporter. But it’s clearly needed when looking at our list in this light.

Happy Friday, go Dees.

I laugh that you can name a bench but still have gaps on the field.

Who are your emergencies?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Good thread. 

But you couldn't provide a best 22... ?

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 4/27/2018 at 1:43 AM, WERRIDEE said:

B: HIBBERD, O.MCDONALD, JETTA

HB: BRAYSHAW, LEVER, HUNT

C : PETRACCA, OLIVER, JONES

HF: KENT, HOGAN, MELKSHAM

F: GARLETT, WEIDEMAN, T.MCDONALD

FOLL: GAWN, TYSON, VINEY

IC: SALEM, FRITSCH, SPARGO, J.LEWIS

Agree with Tmac up fwd. .....Best place for him.

[WERRIDEE 5,483]

4 hours ago, The Chazz said:

Are you going to put a new team up each week? Please let me know so I can put this thread on ignore.

I'm gonna put one up every couple of days just for you?

[binman 43,240]

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

I'm gonna put one up every couple of days just for you?

Maybe mix it up.

For example you could do the best 22 from the 70's, or the best 22 of a team of players recruited to Melbourne or the bets 22 from our premierships or what about our best 22 of NQRs and delisted players since 2000 (so many to choose from!)?