Big call a few on here maybe angry with this but we just are not good or most importantly HUNGRY enough for it.

When these players/so called leader grow a real and proper Backbone we may see some at long last change at the MFC. I’m tired of this club been constantly bullied by the likes of Hawthorn for decades and we never seem to do anything about it...??

All this talk of sacking Goodwin, is silly at this stage, how many more coaches can we go through?

Honestly our so called Leaders need to decide what to do to properly change this Culture. PJ is doing his off the field now the players must.

Until we change properly membership will only increase at snails pace because of the actions of these players on the field. Go Dees

Edited April 15, 20186 yr by deefella

You'll change your mind when we win next week. Richmond had an easy game, while we had a shocker we must breathe fire and hit a shocked Richmond right between the eyes.

I’ve read some knee-jerk stuff on here before but this takes the cake, mate.

Today was rubbish but there’s still 19 more rounds.

 

This needs to be merged with the thread predicting our 10th place finish.

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I’ve read some knee-jerk stuff on here before but this takes the cake, mate.

Today was rubbish but there’s still 19 more rounds.

 

When the players put the ‘cue in the rack’ you know it’s troublesome. Problems aplenty. We’ll struggle to make 10th

5 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I’ve read some knee-jerk stuff on here before but this takes the cake, mate.

Today was rubbish but there’s still 19 more rounds.

 

Truth hurts ey? The proof is in the pudding. Something drastically has to change in 19 rounds and it’s hard to see. 

2014 - Geelong lose to Sydney by 110 points, make the 8.

2015 - Fremantle lose to Port and Hawthorn by 60+ points, are minor premiers

2016 - Hawthorn lose to GWS by 75 points, make the 8.

2017 - Richmond lose to Adelaide and St Kilda by 80 and 67 points, are premiers.

Calm your farm.

3 minutes ago, deefella said:

Truth hurts ey? The proof is in the pudding. Something drastically has to change in 19 rounds and it’s hard to see. 

Well, not so much truth hurts as knee-jerk hurts, if you're standint oo close to the person who knee-jerks.

1 minute ago, Krabo said:

2014 - Geelong lose to Sydney by 110 points, make the 8.

2015 - Fremantle lose to Port and Hawthorn by 60+ points, are minor premiers

2016 - Hawthorn lose to GWS by 75 points, make the 8.

2017 - Richmond lose to Adelaide and St Kilda by 80 and 67 points, are premiers.

Calm your farm.

One thing your forgetting is these sides have good players.... we don’t have enough sadly

Have no doubt that Max wants to make amends for last year. Same for Oliver, Petracca and Hoges. These blokes truly die for the cause. 

The rest haven’t shown either a spine or ability. In some cases both.

Hunt and Stretch should have been in the side from the start . Both have skills and smarts and Harms , Melksham and others simply don’t. 

Amazes me the coaches have missed this.

Also excited about Viney and TMac being back in about 4 months when we are in about 14th.

 

 

13 minutes ago, deefella said:

Truth hurts ey? The proof is in the pudding. Something drastically has to change in 19 rounds and it’s hard to see. 

 

15 minutes ago, WattsUp2312 said:

When the players put the ‘cue in the rack’ you know it’s troublesome. Problems aplenty. We’ll struggle to make 10th

Sydney were 0-6 at the start of last season.

Calm down a little bit if that’s at all possible.

22 minutes ago, McQueen said:

 

Sydney were 0-6 at the start of last season.

Calm down a little bit if that’s at all possible.

We aren’t Sydney.... nor do we have the quality of there players 

19 hours ago, WattsUp2312 said:

When the players put the ‘cue in the rack’ you know it’s troublesome. Problems aplenty. We’ll struggle to make 10th

And to think the players almost had me conned when they said "they were hurting" after the Round 23 loss last year!

19 hours ago, deefella said:

We aren’t Sydney.... nor do we have the quality of there players 

We do have quality players.

Where we lack quality is between the ears.

The reaction to this loss is as ferocious as I’ve seen since the Neeld days. I would think everyone is on notice as the scrutiny will be severe.

21 hours ago, deefella said:

One thing your forgetting is these sides have good players.... we don’t have enough sadly

We have enough good players more than we think, However we have some DUMB ones playing at the moment and they need to be banished  to Magoos .  

These sorts of threads would have a lot more merit if they were written before a big loss...

4 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

We have enough good players more than we think, However we have some DUMB ones playing at the moment and they need to be banished  to Magoos .  

How many are you referring too?

The references to Sydney, Geelong, Richmond are ridiculous. They at least had credibility before the quoted losses.

Sydney had played finals for years and years. Geelong too. Richmond played finals in 2013/2014/2015. When did MFC last play finals? 

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

The reaction to this loss is as ferocious as I’ve seen since the Neeld days. I would think everyone is on notice as the scrutiny will be severe.

Reaction by whom, chook?

Certainly from supporters, but it definitely remains to be seen whether there will be any “ferocious reaction” by the coaching staff, the selectors or the players.  Will have to revisit the question on Anzac Day.  

Hope the reaction by those who can make a difference (coaches and players) is thermonuclear but won’t hold my breath.  

Was planning on going Anzac Eve but honestly so disheartened after Sunday that I am not so sure I will.

As others have said, this mob has lost my trust in a big way - yet again?

Edited April 16, 20186 yr by monoccular

53 minutes ago, deefella said:

How many are you referring too?

There are a good 4 to 5 keep making same mistakes. However you work it out.

I will give you one though  if you were watching the game or games lately. 

Can hardly hold a mark and mainly fumbles, kicks short most of the time and can't hit his target, looks to handball when in a panic and strays. However when in possession  oh no! not again mainly holding the ball. How many times must you think?  Loose man defence and not one on one thank  ..G..

Please don't ask me . ???????? Work it out for yourself.  I am sure l have support.

 

Geelong, Richmond and Sydney have/had geneuine talented A graders, you can’t compare us to them. We have a bunch of meat and potato B grade plodders. 

20 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Reaction by whom, chook?

Certainly from supporters, but it definitely remains to be seen whether there will be any “ferocious reaction” by the coaching staff, the selectors or the players.  Will have to revisit the question on Anzac Day.  

Hope the reaction by those who can make a difference (coaches and players) is thermonuclear but won’t hold my breath.  

Was planning on going Anzac Eve but honestly so disheartened after Sunday that I am not so sure I will.

As others have said, this mob has lost my trust in a big way - yet again?

Supporters and Press. Not sure about coaches, remains to be seen but they are feeling the heat too. Goodwins comment about Hawks structure being superior to ours is damning. The selectors have a bit to explain as well - they seem to put fit runners ahead of players with some skills and footy smarts. Not sure all is lost but a 4 quarter effort is required immediately.

27 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Reaction by whom, chook?

Certainly from supporters, but it definitely remains to be seen whether there will be any “ferocious reaction” by the coaching staff, the selectors or the players.  Will have to revisit the question on Anzac Day.  

Hope the reaction by those who can make a difference (coaches and players) is thermonuclear but won’t hold my breath.  

Was planning on going Anzac Eve but honestly so disheartened after Sunday that I am not so sure I will.

As others have said, this mob has lost my trust in a big way - yet again?

Unfortunately Mono I agree! Another false Dawn!

Richmond? What credibility? They'd lost 3 elimination finals in a row against teams they should have beaten (including a team that finished 9th), had a dreadful 2016 and were in off field turmoil at season's end. There was a lot of discussion heading into 2017 about how re-signing Hardwick was a disastrous decision. Sure, he turned it around and won a premiership, but let's not pretend Richmond had stacks of credibility heading into 2017.

Freo have even less credibility. 3 wins in 7 finals since Lyon took over. Lyon himself has only had a draw from 4 grand finals.

I'll give you the other two have more credibility. And it was a terrible, terrible result Sunday. But [censored] happens.

Edited April 16, 20186 yr by Krabo
Grammatical error.