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4 hours ago, ProDee said:

He was back to his insipid best.

No marks, no goals, no influence.  And you'd be ecstatic with a game like that ?  

Nothing surprises me on here.

I’d be ecstatic if we beat Sydney. That’s the point. JW played a role in Port doing that, we haven’t done it in 8 years! Your lack of comprehension astounds me.

 
3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

People are missing the importance of Jack in Port's structure yesterday!

Having him forward enabled Hinkley to make the match winning move of Dixon to ruck the 2nd half, without leaving a gaping hole in forward 50.  He also took a key defender which enabled a young kid (Todd Marshall) to kick 3 goals.  And, Jack's hand pass to Boake for his first goal helped spark the turnaround to win the game.   

I'm sure people will get a lot of laughs this year from looking at Jack's stats and ridiculing him.  But that just shows they probably haven't watched the game and don't understand the role Hinkley is asking of him. 

TBH, I just don't get the lingering antipathy towards him.  We pushed him out.  He is gone.  You don't need to wish him well.  But this petty ridicule just makes posters look mean spirited.

Bang on, Ken Hinkley agreed with you, from AFL.com:

In the past, Dixon playing on the ball would leave a gaping hole inside Port's forward 50.

But Hinkley said Saturday night's slippery conditions, as well as the addition of Jack Watts, who arrived from Melbourne in the off-season, meant Dixon's absence was less important.

18 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

I’d be ecstatic if we beat Sydney. That’s the point. JW played a role in Port doing that, we haven’t done it in 8 years! Your lack of comprehension astounds me.

Port beating Sydney had zero to do with your pinup boy.

Watts had 4 kicks, no marks, and no goals.

Played his role ?  Is his role to do nothing ?

You're very easily pleased.

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9 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Port beating Sydney had zero to do with your pinup boy.

Watts had 4 kicks, no marks, and no goals.

Played his role ?  Is his role to do nothing ?

You're very easily pleased.

See the post right above yours.

5 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

See the post right above yours.

I saw it.  It's nice he's giving Jack a cuddle.  We all know he responds better that way.

Have you seen young Marshall of Port play ?

Now there's a talent.  


25 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I saw it.  It's nice he's giving Jack a cuddle.  We all know he responds better that way.

 

Two games into the season and Hinkley already feels the need to talk up Watts after a dismal game.

He will be out of the side by the halfway point of the season.

25 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I saw it.  It's nice he's giving Jack a cuddle.  We all know he responds better that way.

Have you seen young Marshall of Port play ?

Now there's a talent.  

Marshall got the second defender because of Watts, he’s definitely a talent and Watts is definitely playing a role in the form side of the competition. 

59 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Two games into the season and Hinkley already feels the need to talk up Watts after a dismal game.

He will be out of the side by the halfway point of the season.

You just love sticking the knives in don't you Petra? Sad to have so much hatred for one individual. Really sad. He's gone, you got your way but still the spite.

 
2 hours ago, deejammin' said:

Marshall got the second defender because of Watts, he’s definitely a talent and Watts is definitely playing a role in the form side of the competition. 

Port got Watts for a reason.  They thought he'd improve their structure.  I understand that.  And he'll play some good games.  We've all seen his handy contributions.

7 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Port got Watts for a reason.  They thought he'd improve their structure.  I understand that.  And he'll play some good games.  We've all seen his handy contributions.

Its a pleasant change to see you say something so balanced about Watts.   Much better than deriding anyone who has a positive word to say about Watts as him being their 'pin-up boy'. 

Watts' critics are in a no-lose situation.  If he flops at Port it will prove their point, if he succeeds it will because he needed a boot up the bum and a change of environment.  If he plays a useful but non dominant role in Port's flag, this thread will go on forever.


There seems to be a bug in the system.  I just got notified via alert that I have a notification from this thread, but it's from an ignored user.   Strange.

Why is it some posters still want the hang it on watts. 

He is gone whether u liked him or not he is gone and the need for some to continue to hang it on him is amazing. 

Let it go he doesn’t play fo us anymore. 

2 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Why is it some posters still want the hang it on watts. 

He is gone whether u liked him or not he is gone and the need for some to continue to hang it on him is amazing. 

Let it go he doesn’t play fo us anymore. 

yep, arguing the same stuff again and again is getting really really boring

24 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Why is it some posters still want the hang it on watts. 

He is gone whether u liked him or not he is gone and the need for some to continue to hang it on him is amazing. 

Let it go he doesn’t play fo us anymore. 

Yes you're right, it's as amazing as those who find it necessary to keep sticking up for him. He became irrelevant to us as soon as he left the club, except when he plays against us of course.

I was not unhappy about trading JW last year and am enthused about the prospects of Fritsch. But I'd like to see Watts have a really good year and kick 50+ just to see his bashers on Land eat schadenfreude 

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1 hour ago, DemonOX said:

Why is it some posters still want the hang it on watts. 

He is gone whether u liked him or not he is gone and the need for some to continue to hang it on him is amazing. 

Let it go he doesn’t play fo us anymore. 

I don't want to hang it on him. 

Then neither should he be seen as some sort of football genius who was sent away to atone for the sins of the MFC.

 

4 hours ago, deejammin' said:

Bang on, Ken Hinkley agreed with you, from AFL.com:

In the past, Dixon playing on the ball would leave a gaping hole inside Port's forward 50.

But Hinkley said Saturday night's slippery conditions, as well as the addition of Jack Watts, who arrived from Melbourne in the off-season, meant Dixon's absence was less important.

What a load of rubbish.  Yeah it’s real important to have a player in your structure that has no impact.  That’s  exactly why they have a 2nd rd pick up for him.   

To think you actually believe this from a coach I’d laughable

 

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5 hours ago, deejammin' said:

I’d be ecstatic if we beat Sydney. That’s the point. JW played a role in Port doing that, we haven’t done it in 8 years! Your lack of comprehension astounds me.

Maybe Sydney just aren’t as good as we thought? Buddy and questionable umpiring saw them past the Eagles, if he goes down they’ll be in serious trouble 

57 minutes ago, Goffer said:

Maybe Sydney just aren’t as good as we thought? Buddy and questionable umpiring saw them past the Eagles, if he goes down they’ll be in serious trouble 

I hope so, Geelong aren’t looking that good either atm.

47 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

I hope so, Geelong aren’t looking that good either atm.

Equalisation is working. No gimmes this year. 


It's great the games are tight this year... anyway back to JW... Hinkley and co - knows Jack does very few contested things... he wasn't brought in for that (although that clearly matters to Goodwin) - Watts is there for the spine (as someone pointed out yesterday) and also for the silk - which he has always had... he'll be a good fit for them... its irrelevant what anyone in the football public think of Jack and his softness (rightly or wrongly) - he is not there as a power forward and he is not a 'bull' - he is someone who they  got to jag goals  and help on the spread...heaven knows the Dee's need a few outside runners now (where are you J Gysberts).

Yes we should not have a vendetta against Jack and should not celebrate his poor games.

Screw that. I’m happy to say that I was happy he didn’t do that well and will continue to be the next time he plays a honker. There’s many times as a supporter when you just have to eat it over a bad trade. I’ll be darned if I’m eating it over this.

 
On 26/03/2018 at 4:04 AM, Jimcor2 said:

Without wanting to labour the point, how nice would it have been to have had a player who can kick a goal from a set shot at the end of a game or one who could find a team mate's chest with a pass rather than trying to bounce one on his head all day?

 

Like he did over in the west against Fremantle 

 

JW makes a substantial, at this stage, IQ offset to Port's forward line when Dixon isn't there. Might be different later........ 


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