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14 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

 

 

It is 2018 not 1970, the AFL has to compete in a global market where you can watch everything from European Champions League to farting contests 24 hours a day if your little heart desires

The days of the 'workers and silvertail clubs' and suburban rivalry  are long gone, I live in the Collingwood annexe to East Melbourne, but can't quite carry off the man bun with my luxuriant solver lockd

The clubs are a business, get the right people in and the business thrives, a bit of on field success helps

'Employee' movement is also part of this new look, hands up who hasn't changed jobs for more money, success, not feeling appreciated etc etc

Jack Watts kicks 6, Howe takes a hanger etc, who cares, not me, they are not with MFC anymore

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11 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

It is 2018 not 1970, the AFL has to compete in a global market where you can watch everything from European Champions League to farting contests 24 hours a day if your little heart desires

The days of the 'workers and silvertail clubs' and suburban rivalry  are long gone, I live in the Collingwood annexe to East Melbourne, but can't quite carry off the man bun with my luxuriant solver lockd

The clubs are a business, get the right people in and the business thrives, a bit of on field success helps

'Employee' movement is also part of this new look, hands up who hasn't changed jobs for more money, success, not feeling appreciated etc etc

Jack Watts kicks 6, Howe takes a hanger etc, who cares, not me, they are not with MFC anymore

I have never questioned that the clubs are not a business now. Players get paid

but the game of Australian Rules Football is not what it was, and i consider that a shame. 

It has always been popular to the extreme because of it’s differences. These differences should be promoted, not diluted

The people who run the AFL are mere custodians of the game for a short while, are driven now to change the game yearly, so we have something that is vastly different to what it was

AFLX will become a hybrid Soccer Competition, is that necessary?

I say no

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    2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

    It is 2018 not 1970, the AFL has to compete in a global market where you can watch everything from European Champions League to farting contests 24 hours a day if your little heart desires

    Compete in a global market? lol. Nobody cares about the game outside of Australia and that's why it is such a sacred and special game given the popularity of it in our home country. I think you mean nationally, we are competing with soccer, which is a global game?

    The only reason the AFL continue to 'Americanise' the game is to make it more attractive globally and because $$$. As Australians, we kiss so much US dick it's disgusting.

     

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    1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

    Compete in a global market? lol. Nobody cares about the game outside of Australia and that's why it is such a sacred and special game given the popularity of it in our home country. I think you mean nationally, we are competing with soccer, which is a global game?

    The only reason the AFL continue to 'Americanise' the game is to make it more attractive globally and because $$$. As Australians, we kiss so much US dick it's disgusting.

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    @stevethemanjordan - Agreed with all of this, and enjoy most of your posts...

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    2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

    Compete in a global market? lol. Nobody cares about the game outside of Australia and that's why it is such a sacred and special game given the popularity of it in our home country. I think you mean nationally, we are competing with soccer, which is a global game?

    The only reason the AFL continue to 'Americanise' the game is to make it more attractive globally and because $$$. As Australians, we kiss so much US dick it's disgusting.

     

    Absolutely 100% If AFLX is the long term future of the game, i will be glad to be Six Feet Under. 

    The main problem with the AFL now is that they give the game no time to breath, 2-3 rule changes are enforced at the same time and we have to live with it. 

    But the main modern rule that has changed the game the most, interchange rotations remains. 

    It is still a “good” game, but when CHF’s and CHB’s went into battle for an afternoon, that was Aussie Rules as a highly original and tough game

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    8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Absolutely 100% If AFLX is the long term future of the game, i will be glad to be Six Feet Under. 

    The main problem with the AFL now is that they give the game no time to breath, 2-3 rule changes are enforced at the same time and we have to live with it. 

    But the main modern rule that has changed the game the most, interchange rotations remains. 

    It is still a “good” game, but when CHF’s and CHB’s went into battle for an afternoon, that was Aussie Rules as a highly original and tough game

    you left out the pathetic standard of umpiring

    when will we get professional umpires?

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    14 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    you left out the pathetic standard of umpiring

    when will we get professional umpires?

    Probably when about 100 cameras are trained on the ground with an AI engine continually analysing all the video, thereby eliminating human umpires entirely.  

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    1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

    you left out the pathetic standard of umpiring

    when will we get professional umpires?

    Agreed. But umpires have always been abused. It’s part of the game!! :)

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    On 11/03/2018 at 8:27 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Personally didn't want to see us trade Jack Watts, but please lets not have this commentary everytime he plays well, poorly or indiferent.  

    Good that this has happened in preseason so it doesn't take up discussion space during the season proper when I will only be interested in our current listed players and how the team is traveling towards the ultimate success - move on Watts lovers.

     

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    On 11/03/2018 at 3:05 PM, Demonland said:

    I'll just leave this here:

     

    Didn’t listen to the commentary but were he in rednblue the cheap free he got would have gone the other way. He was out marked in the contest too.

    otherwise, some nice kicks, but no hard stuff needed 

    22 hours ago, ProDee said:

    I wish him no luck at all.  I don't wish any opposition player "luck".

    When his career is over I'll have some fond memories and respect him as a former MFC player.  But for now he wears colours I can't stand.

    The grey was however a nice change from teal. 

    18 hours ago, picket fence said:

    Then if Praccy games are meaningless we have actually done Jack S heeeeit in the pre season!!

    Stand by for a Demonland Meltdown if The [censored] ? beat us Round 1 

    And one other thing I rate JW ahead of a Billy Stretch anyday and it appears he will play round 1. I wouldn't play him but what do I know??So best 22 and if Watts was still A Dee he would? should play. 

    Forget about outside run No 29 CAN achieve that in spades on a wing... And we should still have an excellent finisher!! Would Watts have missed the gimme Bugg fudged in the first quarter?? 

    Well there you have it.

    Should still be  DEE but isn't it a fascinating season to unfold for DEES and Port Adelaide!

     

    How pathetic is the auto censor. Can’t call a ? a 9u55y FCS. 

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    57 minutes ago, sue said:

    Probably when about 100 cameras are trained on the ground with an AI engine continually analysing all the video, thereby eliminating human umpires entirely.  

    Oxymoron. 


    3 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

    Nobody

    You need to have a look, it is hugely popular in Ireland, Sth UK, East Coast of America and growing in Asia

    On 3/11/2018 at 3:13 PM, Akum said:

    It's simple - Watts fits Port's game style better than ours.

    Classic win-win - he'll play better with Port (and they'll play better with him); we'll play better without him.

    Should be an interesting GF! 

    Reminds me of the comment that when one of our players left to play with another team, the average IQ of both clubs rose.

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    1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

    You need to have a look, it is hugely popular in Ireland, Sth UK, East Coast of America and growing in Asia

    source and stats please

    I am an avid reader of newspapers including those circulating in the UK and SE Asia

    Have never seen an article on AFL.

    In fact the only place I have ever seen it in Asia is the sports bars in Kuta which is not exactly "overseas" if you get my drift.

    BTW ... it does not even get  a guernsey on the main pay TV Sports channels in Asia but rather it is low definition on the Australia channel which doesn't exactly rate its socks off and is promoted as a lifestyle channel.

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    11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    source and stats please

    I am an avid reader of newspapers including those circulating in the UK and SE Asia

    Have never seen an article on AFL.

    In fact the only place I have ever seen it in Asia is the sports bars in Kuta which is not exactly "overseas" if you get my drift.

    BTW ... it does not even get  a guernsey on the main pay TV Sports channels in Asia but rather it is low definition on the Australia channel which doesn't exactly rate its socks off and is promoted as a lifestyle channel.

    Promoting AFL overseas makes the AFL feel big and important. But they would be better off getting clubs out of debt and improving all training facilities, so all clubs  are on an even base when any recruits are drafted in. 

    reminds me of channel 7's intros to the GF years ago.............

    "Beaming to 150 million viewers world wide"

    Of course few if any of those viewers were actually watching !


    7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    reminds me of channel 7's intros to the GF years ago.............

    "Beaming to 150 million viewers world wide"

    Of course few if any of those viewers were actually watching !

    Expat Sports Bars are the only places (and they are great) but this bullsh!t about growing the game international is a joke. 

    It gives the AFL a chance to fly on an international junket. That is all

    Watts kicks 6?  Who cares.  In fact, he is building Port up for the disappointment in the real season.  He can be the March Coleman medallist.

    he is no longer with us, and no longer fits who the demons are becoming.  So stiff kaka.

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    Maybe Adelaide should have moved Lever onto him.....Oh wait!

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    On 11/03/2018 at 2:30 AM, Demon Disciple said:

    Agree Pates.

    Wish him all the best and hope he does well, just not too well when he plays us.

    afaic, we are a poorer team as a result of his departure.

    Hes a likeable enough bloke but I"m afraid that if he goes gangbusters this year I will feel a tad shortchanged and feel like he didnt do enough for Melbourne.

    Catch 22 for me.

    Best to just move on and accept that he will be pretty much the same player except when he plays his old team and  like the rest of them seem to do .... kick a huge bag. Just the way it is. I do hope we that  don't treat him like Scully though.

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    If he starts getting a few kicks during the season someone will clip him around the ear and that folks, will be that.
    Be hearing footsteps, ducking his head and dropping sitters for the rest of the year.
     

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Expat Sports Bars are the only places (and they are great) but this bullsh!t about growing the game international is a joke. 

    It gives the AFL a chance to fly on an international junket. That is all

    correct weight sir.

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    5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    source and stats please

    I am an avid reader of newspapers including those circulating in the UK and SE Asia

    Have never seen an article on AFL.

    In fact the only place I have ever seen it in Asia is the sports bars in Kuta which is not exactly "overseas" if you get my drift.

    BTW ... it does not even get  a guernsey on the main pay TV Sports channels in Asia but rather it is low definition on the Australia channel which doesn't exactly rate its socks off and is promoted as a lifestyle channel.

    ESPN carries it for a start

    But it's geographic

    The AFL are trying to make it more wudespread, you do get highlights on a lot of news service

    What's a newspaper?

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    14 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

    Hes a likeable enough bloke but I"m afraid that if he goes gangbusters this year I will feel a tad shortchanged and feel like he didnt do enough for Melbourne.

    Catch 22 for me.

    Best to just move on and accept that he will be pretty much the same player except when he plays his old team and  like the rest of them seem to do .... kick a huge bag. Just the way it is. I do hope we that  don't treat him like Scully though.

    Watts may conceivably win the Brownlow, win the Norm Smith Medal and the Coleman medal with Port Adelaide this year. All that matters though, is whether he would have performed to that standard if he had stayed with us. The evidence to date suggests that he would not. Hence, the club decided it was time for him to move on. Will I feel shortchanged if he stars for PA? Maybe, but my chagrin will be not for trading him, but for woefully mismanaging him in the early years.  

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    Geez a second or third key forward who can kick 6 goals and give off a few would be handy if Tom McDonalds foot injury keeps him out for an extended period...

    I said it when we traded him and I see no reason to change, it was a silly decision to trade away a talented player capable of playing as a second or third forward when our KPF stocks are so thin. We are now down to Hogan and Pederson for round one, any bad luck with injury or suspension and we will be forced to play Weiderman or Smith. I hope those guys play as well as Jack will for Port or we’ll look very, very silly.....

    Watts kicks 6 goals in a JLT community game and the posters who wanted to keep him use this as a ‘I told you so’. Wow wee. 

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