1 minute ago, Roger Bonnici said:

Absolutely crazy Watts traded for a pick in the 30's. I wonder if he comes back to bite us in the bum what's going to be said, too late he is gone I personally hope he will go on and shove it up Goodwin's a##e GO WATTSY AND THANK YOU BUDDY

Interesting if you would have this opinion if Watts was lining up to kick the winning goal against us in the Grand Final...

People really need to relax... It is one player who every other club would say has done bugger all in 9 years!

13 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

Plough is list managing MFC on Trade Radio right now...which if I have to listen to much more of without any news I'LL SPEW UP!! 

"I'd draft Tambling, overlook Roughead and Franklin, and get sacked a few years later. But I've managed to carve out a niche for myself in the media as 'The List Manager'. In the words of Harry Who, 'amazing'."

1 minute ago, the rolling fog said:

Plough is list managing MFC on Trade Radio right now...which if I have to listen to much more of without any news I'LL SPEW UP!! 

he really didn't say anything that we haven't been saying on this forum

we're there or thereabouts, expectation is finals in 2018, we have a reasonable amount of talent on the list at long last

and like everyone he expects t mac to play forward with lever coming in and watts going out

13 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

In the main I agree with this.  I find it difficult to understand why the club has been so public about Jack's so-called shortcomings.  Sure, go to the trade table with him if you want to, but do it quietly behind closed doors.  Regardless of his failings, JW does not deserve such a public airing of his perceived faults.

That said, I get a sense that there is a lot more to this than we know.  But just what that may be, who knows?

What exactly has the club said publicly....Jones ...Mahoney...alluded to some unprofessional training standards ...everyone knew that....never heard any other untoward criticism....but happy to be directed to the relevant statements that support your claims

3 minutes ago, A F said:

Who do you support? Watts or the coach and the FD of the MFC?

WATTS WATTS WATTS

2 minutes ago, wattsindawes said:

Didn’t say you shouldn’t have an opinion I said you’re a person focusing on the negative. Sure you’re entitled to your negative opinion as I’m entitled to my positive one. Which to my belief is two ways to look at the situation. Hardly an oxymoron. 

I've spoken about Watts on numerous occasions in a positive light. Stop assuming everyone that doesn't share your sentiments hasn't had anything positive to say about him at any point. Assumptions never lead to productive discussion.

13 minutes ago, Roger Bonnici said:

WATTS WATTS WATTS

Haha, I see. At least we're honest.

3 minutes ago, Roger Bonnici said:

WATTS WATTS WATTS

Hope you know the words to never tear us apart and holding up a scarf like a complete dbag

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by DSP

4 minutes ago, Krazy Jaeger O'Smeara said:

Interesting if you would have this opinion if Watts was lining up to kick the winning goal against us in the Grand Final...

People really need to relax... It is one player who every other club would say has done bugger all in 9 years!

That's why three Final Eight Clubs are chasing him!?

3 minutes ago, Smokey said:

I've spoken about Watts on numerous occasions in a positive light. Stop assuming everyone that doesn't share your sentiments hasn't had anything positive to say about him at any point. Assumptions never lead to productive discussion.

As have I.. I’m talking about his football not him as a person. I think you’re missing the point. 

2 minutes ago, CBDees said:

That's why three Final Eight Clubs are chasing him!?

but no one who wants to use his as an integral player; he's the cream, and after nine years his time at the dees has obviously seen it curdle

2 minutes ago, wattsindawes said:

As have I.. I’m talking about his football not him as a person. I think you’re missing the point. 

And what's the point exactly? That I'm incorrect in saying that I believe he has a NET negative impact on our team and expressing that on a public discussion forum?

Consider my use of the term net.

 

And who's talking about him as a person? I thought we were talking about footy ...

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by Smokey

4 minutes ago, CBDees said:

That's why three Final Eight Clubs are chasing him!?

Chasing?  Only one made an offer didn't they?

If the MFC was Seinfeld:

Watts = Jay Buhner

Lever = Ken Phelps

Steinbrenner = Goodwin

 

Just now, The Chazz said:

Chasing?  Only one made an offer didn't they?

The others offered a bag of chips.

Just trade him for something, anything, so we can shut up and just move on.  

11 minutes ago, A F said:

"I'd draft Tambling, overlook Roughead and Franklin, and get sacked a few years later. But I've managed to carve out a niche for myself in the media as 'The List Manager'. In the words of Harry Who, 'amazing'."

Wouldn't have gotten Dusty without him!

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Just trade him for something, anything, so we can shut up and just move on.  

I'm looking forward to the moving on part. We've had to deal with this polarizing rubbish for too long.

Just now, Clintosaurus said:

The others offered a bag of chips.

Exactly.  Hardly banging his/our door down with lucrative deals.

The three sides can see that it's a risk that is worth taking.  If it doesn't work, they haven't lost a lot.  Geelong also have a track record of thinking they can fix our players, with not a great deal of success mind you.

16 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

No sickly feeling with me, SONS.  I'm one of the supporters that you speak of, and I'm quite content with it.

I tell you what, I wanted the whole team to cop a hiding after the way they finished off the season.  I'll excuse some of the young kids that ran out of puff.  I will never accept that a senior player/s didn't prepare as good as they could've.  If Watts was the biggest culprit, then I'm glad they have made an example of him.

I was quite numb after not making the finals, and lost a lot of interest in the finals series in general.  Insipid performances from my team did this to me.  I feel some sense of relief that Goodwin and co won't accept mediocrity.

The telling point about all this is that out of 18 sides, from what has been reported, only 3 expressed an interest in picking up Watts.  That's telling.

Perhaps only 3 suitors when MFC says Watts is to be traded due to non adhering to team standards and character requirements. Not a great sales campaign 

Agree that missing finals hurt.  It was a kick in the guts. 

But remove missing finals as due to Watts!!

that was due to inconsistency by the WHOLE team (excl Oliver) and poor Jesse Hogans many issues. 

Didnt see Watts in the last quarter v Lions when they kicked 5 goals in 7 minutes.  22 others that day turned a percentage boost into a heart stopper. That and the Magpie loss effectively killed our season. 

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by spirit of norm smith
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I'd be happy with a straight swap for Ollie Wines.  Simples!  Get it done, MFC!!

7 minutes ago, DSP said:

Hope you know the words to never tear us apart and holding up a scarf like a complete dbag

Are you referring to me or Goodwin

Just now, spirit of norm smith said:

Agree that missing finals hurt.  It was a kick in the guts. 

But remove missing finals as due to Watts!!

that was due to inconsistency by the WHOLE team (excl Oliver) and poor Jesse Hogans many issues. 

Didnt see Watts in the last quarter v Lions when they kicked 5 goals in 7 minutes.  22 others that day turned a percentage boost into a heart stopper. That and the Magpie loss effectively killed our season. 

The Brisbane game cost us the most.  A game that would've secured our spot in the 8, and where was Watts?  Running around in the [censored] 2s.

I have always had respect for Jack and had hoped a visit to our first final in what is now eleven years would of had him in the side. His work this year when he came into the side was amazing and Port will benefit greatly from Watts on their list. 

I know he has had his knockers and critic but the fella can play. Not every player needs to get their head knocked off to get the ball. In saying this, I understand he does at times not do this enough. Admittedly we have never really played him where he should have played, as a forward. 

Would just like to say to Jack, thank you for being at the Dee's and thankfully, you played 150 games. I hope Port is a place where you get the best out of yourself and play to the potential you have. As much as it will pain me when you kick a few against the Dee's, it will be great to see you out there doing what you do best.

 

...And we better get a good deal out of this or I will be P&sse$!