Unrestricted free agent and a clear upgrade on someone like Mitch hannan or James harmes. 

Surely worth a look?

2 hours ago, Abe said:

Unrestricted free agent and a clear upgrade on someone like Mitch hannan or James harmes. 

Surely worth a look?

Cost nothing but money, and has much more talent than the overwhelming majority on our list.

Would love to see him play for us, but injuries surely a concern?

Very lazy player who often finds himself in space due to the fact he doesn't follow a man wen out of possession.  Has had 22 tackles and 15 1%s from 17 games this year.

 

We often criticise Watts and Gartlett for their defensive efforts:

Jack Watts 42 tackles from 16 games.

Jeff Gartlett 74 tackles from 21 games.

54 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Very lazy player who often finds himself in space due to the fact he doesn't follow a man wen out of possession.  Has had 22 tackles and 15 1%s from 17 games this year.

 

We often criticise Watts and Gartlett for their defensive efforts:

Jack Watts 42 tackles from 16 games.

Jeff Gartlett 74 tackles from 21 games.

Pretty damning stats there

1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Very lazy player who often finds himself in space due to the fact he doesn't follow a man wen out of possession.  Has had 22 tackles and 15 1%s from 17 games this year.

 

We often criticise Watts and Gartlett for their defensive efforts:

Jack Watts 42 tackles from 16 games.

Jeff Gartlett 74 tackles from 21 games.

So he already has a handle on game plan and culture. It's a yes from me.

3 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Very lazy player who often finds himself in space due to the fact he doesn't follow a man wen out of possession.  Has had 22 tackles and 15 1%s from 17 games this year.

 

We often criticise Watts and Gartlett for their defensive efforts:

Jack Watts 42 tackles from 16 games.

Jeff Gartlett 74 tackles from 21 games.

Ouch. Close thread before Slobo gets hold of it

Would be a great pick-up if we don't value forward pressure. The guy can kick goals, but is incapable of pretty much anything else. Suspect body too.

Firm no.

Similar to JT for me. Has the talent but lacks the speed/agility and ability to apply pressure. you cannot play fwd without this unless if a very good team

They are reporting that Cats are thinking about whether to give him a contract even though he kicked 30 odd goals

its a pity that athletic ability is surpasing talent as a pre-requistite but there you go

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Similar to JT for me. Has the talent but lacks the speed/agility and ability to apply pressure. you cannot play fwd without this unless if a very good team

They are reporting that Cats are thinking about whether to give him a contract even though he kicked 30 odd goals

its a pity that athletic ability is surpasing talent as a pre-requistite but there you go

No it's not athletic ability surpassing talent, but rather effort.

Has some x-factor but as mentioned in an earlier post, his defensive pressure is a serious concern. I'd prefer getting more games into Hannan. Maybe even Fritsch if we draft him.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

No it's not athletic ability surpassing talent, but rather effort.

we reckon he is not trying?  well he wont last long on anyones list if thats the case

agree to disagree

17 minutes ago, DubDee said:

we reckon he is not trying?  well he wont last long on anyones list if thats the case

agree to disagree

I think that's why Geelong is not rushing to sign him.

Menzel is a very good footballer but I just can't see this being a good fit. Decent overhead but we need much more defensive forward pressure. Also fear for him breaking down at any second. 

He can take a grab, and if there is something we need more of its contested marks.

Shame about the lack of pressure/effort though.

Factor in his injury history and its a reluctant pass from me.

 

Perfect player for us... his lazyness will give us a permanent forward inside 50. Lol

I am sick of seeing an empty forward 50 when going forward. 

If we dont have to give up a draft pick or player. I would consider. Dangerous player and can kick goals. And is surprisingly 190cm. Allows Garlett to work up the ground and use his pace.

8 goals in two games v Dees. Match winner!

More chance of returning to Adelaide and playing with his brother. Could be key to any potential 3 way trade for Lever if Menzel does leave.