2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I really don't give a rats what Roos thinks. He constantly talked about changing the culture on and off the field. Goodwin is taking action and should be applauded.

I seriously can't believe how much people are overrating Watts' importance to the team.

You have got to be kidding about that Roos part.

Where would we be without him coming on board? Talk about changing the culture... Goodwin is riding Roos' coattails.

Can we keep the sooking out of the trade rumor thread

33 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

https://www.sen.com.au/podcasts/dee-tales/

 

Dee tales podcast

Roos & the Ox have just increased Watts trade value... Top 5 Pick now. Lol

Surely MFC will backflip now. Sounds like his potential trade will put MFC in meltdown.

He is contracted. So it will be interesting to see what clubs will offer.

We shouldnt be talking about this if Jack pulled his finger out.

54 minutes ago, mrtwister said:

Watts for the two homesick GWS boys?

Would Kennedy and smith fit. If so watts and second rounder. 

If it fails at least Carlton will need to step up.

Have always been a fan of watts and he has shown resilience that many others would not. Prefer him to stay but if he wishes out we owe it to him. 

This trade period will be very interesting. Still think we should look at ac chee. Can get him for cheap as he is also out of contract. His younger brother in SA is a gun and he may want to play with his older brother. 

List of targets

Lever

Gaff

Ac Chee

Kennedy GWS

Preuss (north ruckman)

Tom Lamb ( last round pick)

Motlop ( I know he is a risk but I think we learnt a lot from jurrah and believe under Jetta, Garlett and Ac Chee he would be guided well)

Most important is to improve our bottom end. Depth is essential and why I think the crows may do richmond on the weekend.

Unless hogan wants out he is going no where. Him and pedo could cause a lot of damage next year.

Any others we should look at?

42 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I can deal with losing Watts but to hear there is divide and infighting? Maybe the questions asked of Goodwin are fair? We can't afford anymore of this off field crap, I guy like Lever could pull out or stay away in the future. We need to get this right.

Where Ian the talk of divide/infighting coming from? 

2 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Where Ian the talk of divide/infighting coming from? 

No one who has any idea of what is going on inside the club

Should Roos really be saying anything? He chose goody as coach so should be backing in his decision not a good look 

17 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Where Ian the talk of divide/infighting coming from? 

Wasn't that what SWYL said before? maybe I read it wrong?

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Just heard what Roosy said

I don’t like this situation at all. There is a divide within the club..

@Cards13

5 minutes ago, brendan said:

Should Roos really be saying anything? He chose goody as coach so should be backing in his decision not a good look 

His comments were in relation to a question he was asked about Jack.  He was careful in his response.  He said he was a massive Jack Watts fan and he thought it would be a mistake to trade him, but he wasn't criticising the club and said he didn't know what was going on there.  He also made mention of outsiders commenting on the inner workings of a club when they weren't in full possession of the facts.

Funny time of the year. I really like Watts when he plays well, uses his skills, vision etc. Equally he frustrates hugely at times.

I don't actually care who we move on, as long as it helps our momentum continue into finals next year.

I'd prefer Lever to Watts if that was the choice. Not having a highly talked about player each week might help also, he seems to be the first question to anyone 15 weeks of the year.

We moved forward this year, I'm happy to back in Goody and PJ to do again next year. If they think Watts doesn't make a significant difference that's fine.

Time to trade, trade hard Demons.

Joel Smith to HFF.

10 minutes ago, SFebey said:

@Cards13

Opinion, no facts. 

They want to trade Watts. I don't see that as an issue if the club gets something of value in return and maybe sends the message to the playing group enough is enough. Fans in a huff about it is not a club divided. 

4 hours ago, Luther said:

Fair enough, this is a discussion board after all 

I feel that if Jack's season hadn't been interrupted by injury (obviously not his fault) he would have rated ahead of Hartlett. But Hartlett did a lot of great intercept work this season was quite consistent. Hall beats both of them IMO - massive metres gained and even though he can be inconsistent, wins a heap of the ball and drives it long. He has that X factor with his ability to run and break lines too, so I rate him quite highly.

He also played well against us, which is admittedly the prime reason for a lot of my trade hype. I dont watch GCS on most other occasions.

12 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Opinion, no facts. 

They want to trade Watts. I don't see that as an issue if the club gets something of value in return and maybe sends the message to the playing group enough is enough. Fans in a huff about it is not a club divided. 

The Ox was fairly adamant this afternoon that certain coaches and recruiters were against the trade..

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

You have got to be kidding about that Roos part.

Where would we be without him coming on board? Talk about changing the culture... Goodwin is riding Roos' coattails.

Rubbish, let's not forget it was the great Roos who coached Melbourne to a 100 point loss this time last year. The crap being dished out to Goodwin is bordering on pathetic.

16 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Opinion, no facts. 

They want to trade Watts. I don't see that as an issue if the club gets something of value in return and maybe sends the message to the playing group enough is enough. Fans in a huff about it is not a club divided. 

I think you'll find that David Schwarz mentioned this on the radio

2 minutes ago, SFebey said:

I think you'll find that David Schwarz mentioned this on the radio

This is the same David Schwarz who declared we should trade him only a few years ago.

I love the Ox, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

This is the same David Schwarz who declared we should trade him only a few years ago.

I love the Ox, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Makes me wonder if they are playing along with this talk so we get a decent return for Jack in a trade. Who knows mate, it's all smoke n mirrors out there.

56 minutes ago, brendan said:

Should Roos really be saying anything? He chose goody as coach so should be backing in his decision not a good look 

Just because he chose him as his successor it doesn't mean he should agree with everything he says and does. Goodwin wouldn't want him to either. Being an AFL coach appears to be a very tough job. Roos questioning Goodwin's possible trade scenario's would be the least of his worries.

Edited September 28, 20177 yr by KingDingAling

Dougal Howard and a pick from Port wouldn't be a bad result

45 minutes ago, grazman said:

His comments were in relation to a question he was asked about Jack.  He was careful in his response.  He said he was a massive Jack Watts fan and he thought it would be a mistake to trade him, but he wasn't criticising the club and said he didn't know what was going on there.  He also made mention of outsiders commenting on the inner workings of a club when they weren't in full possession of the facts.

Thanks grazman, that puts it into context. It's a shame the OP couldn't do the same.

Port have some okay outside runners that may be worth a look. 

I wonder if they'd package up jake Neade and Sam grey for us?

53 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Rubbish, let's not forget it was the great Roos who coached Melbourne to a 100 point loss this time last year. The crap being dished out to Goodwin is bordering on pathetic.

You are responding to my comment about the change in our culture. That is all Roos. The people he brought in from Sydney on day one, yes, even bringing in Goodwin, but the club needed to be altered - Jackson chased him down and Roos delivered. 

6 minutes ago, rpfc said:

You are responding to my comment about the change in our culture. That is all Roos. The people he brought in from Sydney on day one, yes, even bringing in Goodwin, but the club needed to be altered - Jackson chased him down and Roos delivered. 

Agree with that RPFC but i do think Goodwin deserves more credit than he is given for helping change the culture of the place

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

This is the same David Schwarz who declared we should trade him only a few years ago.

I love the Ox, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Isn't it hilarious.

The media have been saying we should part ways with Jack for years and years and then, when it actuallly looks like something might happen, these same people ask wtf are we doing.