Pies fans want out of QB Big freeze match

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

16 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

we will need to have a sustained run of many years to replace the big boys.

FTA television is interested in one thing only as it continues its death spiral (see Channel 10) ... ratings and we don't deliver it.

The Bulldogs were a fairy tale story and got a few prime time games this year but in truth their crowds have been disappointing. St Kilda v Bulldogs ... the then up and comers against the Premiers drew a crowd of around 35,000.

It's going to be a hard road for a team that a few weeks ago played on a non FTA game before 5000 people when on the same weekend Essendon and Richmond drew 90,000.

The plus is that it is much easier to get a good seat for most MFC games

The AFL has always wanted a strong club to identify with the city of Melbourne for the national competition and downplay the surburban parochialism. If we become great it will pump up the us vs the rest of them scenario and the benefits will flow. Problem is we have under performed for decades and yes we do need sustained success to become great again. 

[beelzebub 23,383]

Eddie's been very quiet of late ...

[whatwhat say what 22,948]

10 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

It would be sad if the Melbourne-Collingwood QB fixture was dumped for precisely this reason: it is one of the few blockbuster matches that reflects the cultural history of the game rather than the contrived marketing of modern blockbusters such as the Essendon-Collingwood Anzac Day game.

Demons and Pies on QB harks back as someone else noted in this thread to 1958 and the biggest ever home and away attendance on...wait for it...Queen's Birthday. That was also an era in which a Melb-Coll grand final was played with thousands of spectators sitting inside the boundary line so great was the rivalry and the interest. (That was 1955 or '56. Ticketing was introduced the following year.)

So when I say our QB fixture reflects cultural history I mean it's authentic and evolved from the game's pre-commercial, pre-industrialised past. It's from the time when no-one talked about the football 'industry' and when retired footballers went back to the bush to coach or simply went back to their old jobs and were not guaranteed a future as media personalities.

 Kevin Sheedy's Anzac option at the beginning was opportunistic and phoney by comparison, although it has developed into something more since. Other true blockbusters would be Carlton-Richmond, Collingwood-Carlton - rivalries that reflect the battles of the past and raise passions. Hawthorn-Sydney and Geelong-Hawthorn are genuine modern blockbusters, especially the Cats and Hawks.

I doubt QB will go at least in part because this year was such a brilliant contest and neutrals loved it. They loved it for the closeness and the quality of the game, Howe's screamer and finally because Collingwood lost. Narrowly.

Whatever the Magpie nuffies think, the deal the MCC gave the Woods, gifting them a social club area for every game they play at the 'G means they gain plenty commercially from QB even if we do win the gate. 

interesting you say this - tim lane on the pregame 3aw coverage on monday was calling it the original contrived blockbuster, from when games were drawn out of a hat (apparently?), it was always amazing how melbourne-collingwood got miraculously 'drawn' to be on qb.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Melb v Filth qbw

IS the prototype of all footy big-games.

Like so much about this game...we start it.....others usurp us.

Time to take back our rightful position and become powerful again.

Collingwood should be thankful they get to play us on such an occasion. It's the only way they can garner any class.

[pitmaster 3,578]

24 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

interesting you say this - tim lane on the pregame 3aw coverage on monday was calling it the original contrived blockbuster, from when games were drawn out of a hat (apparently?), it was always amazing how melbourne-collingwood got miraculously 'drawn' to be on qb.

The time I am talking about Tim would have been kicking a Coles plastic footy in the back lanes of Hobart - he might have missed something.

[rolling fog 1,208]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Eddie's been very quiet of late ...

He was practically begging for Trac to move to the Pies (club he supported as a kid) in the interview I heard on MMM yesterday morning

[beelzebub 23,383]

8 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

He was practically begging for Trac to move to the Pies (club he supported as a kid) in the interview I heard on MMM yesterday morning

let him beg...it becomes him !!

[mauriesy 7,357]

This thread is much ado about nothing.

I hardly think the AFL is going to pay much attention to Collingwood supporters who get on BigFooty and produce stuff like this ...

"Lol at melbourne supporters use are a rubbish team. If use actually dont believe yesterdays game was rigged use dont know footy. Some of the calls we absolute ridiculous. Even so you have had essendon Richmond and hawthorn supporters saying who dont like us even a little. With all the draft picks and the hope of making top 4 use have absolute no chance after beating a collingwood team with 26 men on your team and a weakened collongwoof side missing many key players. "

[pineapple dee 2,892]

6 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

This thread is much ado about nothing.

I hardly think the AFL is going to pay much attention to Collingwood supporters who get on BigFooty and produce stuff like this ...

"Lol at melbourne supporters use are a rubbish team. If use actually dont believe yesterdays game was rigged use dont know footy. Some of the calls we absolute ridiculous. Even so you have had essendon Richmond and hawthorn supporters saying who dont like us even a little. With all the draft picks and the hope of making top 4 use have absolute no chance after beating a collingwood team with 26 men on your team and a weakened collongwoof side missing many key players. "

This was one of the more articulate and compelling comments  Mauriesy. 

[Emerald 1,744]

I think the filth supporters are only seeing the small picture. I remember a few occasions where they gave us a hiding on QB, they were not complaining then.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

Monday afternoon must have really really hurt those creatures.????? In 2007 we received 4 Friday night games after winning a final against St.Kilda in 2006 we would have to do something similar this year to reicieve something similar. But look at St.Kilda, what have they done? 3 Friday Night games for them, guessing the AFL thought their performances were going to spike and ours not so much.

[daisycutter 29,743]

from a pies bulletin board - enjoy

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darky the protector  Joined: 06 May 2015

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:20 pm   Post subject: Not happy at all today  Played a lot of footy and never never have I seen such bias, it's reached a new level.  Momentum changes game results, always has , and now with 36 different umpires you get 36 interpretations.games and flags have been won or lost for years in this event called AFL.  These wipes have now destroyed our game.  First time this year didn't bother watching ANZAC day , listening or going fed up with the AFL agenda.  I agree with BEN  It's time to go hard  1. All supporters not attend our next game and play the reserves , managed players after speaking to sponsors  2. No access to journos  3 limit all afl activities  4 get someone on the commission  5 no more charity games ( extra 100,000) in our footy department pre tax budget to make up for all the support over the years we have provided all these other LEECH clubs  6 court challange mrp always  7 adopt a 110% combative attitude  8 establish a fighting fund against Injustice ,  9 produce and publish each week our own tapes re decisions and publish them on our website.  10 if they don't like it litigate , it can't get any worse and it didn't harm St KILDA  NOTHING Else matters , drafting ,game plan , coaching, money, speculation , facilities NOTHING, unless we are given a equal playing field.  We have been systematically screwed ever since JACK Hamilton moved on.  Our imput has never been replaced and our influence diminishes  The whole fiasco is about propping up non supported clubs and giving hope.  New immigrants support WINNERS , so do there kids  We're are we placed , now is our line in the sand moment  Sycophants in the media won't do jack  ITS UP TO US _________________

 

[danielE288 779]

Yeah cut yourself off from the AFL, great tactic. Embarrassing.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

17 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

from a pies bulletin board - enjoy

 

Filth v Filth at Victoria Park

cool with me

Vic Park was a Slag Heap that the MFC actually assisted The Filth in purchasing so they could establish a home. 

Off you go...

Edited June 14, 2017 by Sir Why You Little

[beelzebub 23,383]

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Filth v Filth at Victoria Park

cool with me

Vic Park was a Slag Heap that the MFC actually assisted The Filth in purchasing so they could establish a home. 

Off you go...

Whats the story there WYL ..Mfc Vpark ?

[pineapple dee 2,892]

12 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

from a pies bulletin board - enjoy

 

This thinking beggars belief.   " Get someone on the commission"  The commission is the clubs, all 18 of them not just Collingwood. 

" We want a level playing field ".  Oh really, so do the " leech " clubs who don't make hundreds of thousands of dollars every time their team plays at the MCG by virtue of the fact the the Pies have been gifted the Ponsford stand by the MCC  and can do and charge what they like for the privilege of going in there. 

Take all MRP decisions to court. Well a certain merit to this one I have to admit since the MRP seem to make it up as they go along. And some clubs suffer injustice as a result.

Maybe just maybe Collingwood was beaten on Monday by a better team. Think about that for a moment Magpie muppets.

[Robot Devil 1,895]

Isn't this just their supporters saying "You can't fire me because I quit!"?

They know they are spiraling into the abyss so are trying to lessen the hurt by saying they didn't want this game anyway.

Next logical step is them losing the right to the Anzac Day game and then eventually relegation to whatever league wants a team supported by a legion of headcases declaring they won't turn up if they're not guaranteed a win.

 

[daisycutter 29,743]

1 minute ago, pineapple dee said:

This thinking beggars belief.   " Get someone on the commission"  The commission is the clubs, all 18 of them not just Collingwood. 

" We want a level playing field ".  Oh really, so do the " leech " clubs who don't make hundreds of thousands of dollars every time their team plays at the MCG by virtue of the fact the the Pies have been gifted the Ponsford stand by the MCC  and can do and charge what they like for the privilege of going in there. 

Take all MRP decisions to court. Well a certain merit to this one I have to admit since the MRP seem to make it up as they go along. And some clubs suffer injustice as a result.

Maybe just maybe Collingwood was beaten on Monday by a better team. Think about that for a moment Magpie muppets.

don't try to understand it or take it seriously, pd, just have a good laugh

the more they bleat and feel robbed the better the schadenfreude

[beelzebub 23,383]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

don't try to understand it or take it seriously, pd, just have a good laugh

the more they bleat and feel robbed the better the schadenfreude

It's a beautiful noise !!!! 

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Whats the story there WYL ..Mfc Vpark ?

We assisted Carringbush to purchase the land. 

It is part of early history

[rolling fog 1,208]

CAN'T BELIEVE IT WASN'T TYPED IN ALL CAPS

[daisycutter 29,743]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

We assisted Carringbush to purchase the land. 

It is part of early history

i always thought the council owned it and that was part of their problems

remember all the fights with council when they left about restoring facilites to a good state. plus if they owned it they would have sold it to developers

 

[beelzebub 23,383]

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We assisted Carringbush to purchase the land. 

It is part of early history

Ungrateful shlts !! lol

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

i always thought the council owned it and that was part of their problems

remember all the fights with council when they left about restoring facilites to a good state. plus if they owned it they would have sold it to developers

 

Not sure what happened in the years that followed, but the MFC was definately involved to some degree in the original purchase

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

24 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not sure what happened in the years that followed, but the MFC was definately involved to some degree in the original purchase

Couldn't find any mention of MFC... (great history by the CFC one has to admit)

http://cfc-forever.qodo.com.au/a-famous-patch-of-turf/

http://cfc-forever.qodo.com.au/victoria-park-is-born/

http://cfc-forever.qodo.com.au/football-comes-to-victoria-park/

"Victoria Park was first purchased by John Dight in 1838 for 13 pounds and 12 shillings an acre. Dight bought 84 acres bounded by Johnston St and Reilly St, between Hoddle St and the Yarra River, and bequeathed the family name to the land until the 1870s (hence its less than flattering original tag of Dight’s Paddock)"

The next bit is straight out of Power without Glory

"The land was sold a year after that proclamation for almost 20 times its original purchase price. Its new owner, Edwin Trenerry, had no association with Collingwood or the increasingly popular pastime of Australian Rules. He lived almost 20,000km away in England.

The sale was orchestrated by solicitor David Abbott and clerk Frederick Trenerry Brown, the latter a nephew of the new owner. Trenerry’s land would skyrocket in value almost immediately, thanks to some astute business nous from Abbott. Abbott made a proposal to the Collingwood Council for them to take possession of part of the land for use as a community recreation reserve. On face value, it was a noble gesture. However, the offer of 10-and-a-quarter acres carried a catch – the Council had to agree to spend 250 pounds per acre towards ‘the making of the streets around and leading to the reserve’. That sum was precisely the amount Trenerry had paid for the land and it was clear that any such work on making the road around the Paddock would dramatically raise the value of the land."