The Importance of Jordan Lewis

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#freetrengove

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Agree with most posters. He has really underperformed.

Hopefully he puts in a good one today. 

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Cooked completely move on mate

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How smart was he to get to the right spot so Nibbler could pass it to him.

 I think he was better than most think, he isn't meant to be a star for us, but he did a few nice things whilst getting 20+ possessions.

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Workrate was up, and he was clever in close when he kept his feet. Don't remember him going to ground so often in the past...

Anyway, he stepped up in the first game of a month that we need him to.

Had a few other passengers today, good to get a win when you are just going.

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On 05/07/2017 at 2:25 PM, Is Dom Is Good said:

I think his numbers in both possessions and tackles will rise quite dramatically over the next 3-4 weeks. He will be playing a lot more through the middle of the ground to cover the losses of Jones & Viney.

 

On 05/07/2017 at 2:38 PM, Lord Travis said:

He hasn't been great but hopefully he has a big few weeks playing through the middle and relishing his leadership role.

Disappointing that he hasn't taken on the on field leadership role when the skippers went down.

Very happy that he offered ANB that option at the death knell today though.  And kicked the goal - you never know it could even make a difference re percentage.

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The bloke thinks !!!

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In a team lacking experience and nous just think would rather him than not!

 

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I thought he was pretty good today. And clearly he's a better on field leader than anyone we could replace him with. 

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You can see at the very end after ANB took the mark that Lewis started talking to him almost straight away, telling him what to do. ANB then went from watching the clock to looking out the corner of his eye to make sure Lewis was still in space. 

The percentage move for Demons of old would be to go for the goal. Obvious risk is that if they missed, they then give the opposition 30 seconds to get up the other end for a goal.

Percentage move now is what Lewis orchestrated last night. Remove all doubt, and guarantee victory.

Thats experience, and you can't teach that.

#lewisfan

 

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1 minute ago, JTR said:

You can see at the very end after ANB took the mark that Lewis started talking to him almost straight away, telling him what to do. ANB then went from watching the clock to looking out the corner of his eye to make sure Lewis was still in space. 

The percentage move for Demons of old would be to go for the goal. Obvious risk is that if they missed, they then give the opposition 30 seconds to get up the other end for a goal.

Percentage move now is what Lewis orchestrated last night. Remove all doubt, and guarantee victory.

Thats experience, and you can't teach that.

#lewisfan

 

It took the heat off ANB as well. If he'd had the shot and missed it could well have cost us the game. I was crapping myself watching ANB line up. Everyone I was watching with just started laughing when he passed off to Lewis. The relief of the pressure dissipating was palpable.

Where were the Carlton defenders? In their shoes I'd be filthy that they didn't force ANB to take the shot.

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I reckon many comments are a bit harsh.

Lewis has added an on field presence that distracts opposition teams from their own game. This gives us an edge.

His on field positioning and direction are always valuable and never better evidenced than the last few minutes this week.

No one else in the squad brings what he does to the game. I'm happy that the coach recognises contribution value over the statistical count.

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Silenced a few doubters in here with quality leadership last night. Good to see.

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He will be worth Gold in September

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1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He will be worth Gold in September

Too many people here think that when players like him don't get 30 touches every week they're useless. Completely baffling lack of understanding from some. He removed any possibly of a loss last night.

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1 minute ago, yoSMOKIE said:

Silenced a few doubters in here with quality leadership last night. Good to see.

Jordie was very smart in the last minute but was aided by some of the worst defence you're likely to see.  How did Carlton not cover him? 

But his playing days are fast coming to an end.  He struggles to keep up, he goes to ground, he doesn't apply pressure and he's losing his awareness and his elite disposal under pressure.  Had it not been for his final 60 seconds it was just a game from Jordie and was secondary to players like Oliver, Petracca, Frost, Jetta, McDonald, ANB and a few others.

It's indicative that his finest moment had nothing to do with footy skills.  I still think that he'll struggle for a game next season, all the signs are there.

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42 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Jordie was very smart in the last minute but was aided by some of the worst defence you're likely to see.  How did Carlton not cover him? 

But his playing days are fast coming to an end.  He struggles to keep up, he goes to ground, he doesn't apply pressure and he's losing his awareness and his elite disposal under pressure.  Had it not been for his final 60 seconds it was just a game from Jordie and was secondary to players like Oliver, Petracca, Frost, Jetta, McDonald, ANB and a few others.

It's indicative that his finest moment had nothing to do with footy skills.  I still think that he'll struggle for a game next season, all the signs are there.

Boy he goes to ground a lot.

Edited July 10, 2017 by ProDee

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3 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Jordie was very smart in the last minute but was aided by some of the worst defence you're likely to see.  How did Carlton not cover him? 

But his playing days are fast coming to an end.  He struggles to keep up, he goes to ground, he doesn't apply pressure and he's losing his awareness and his elite disposal under pressure.  Had it not been for his final 60 seconds it was just a game from Jordie and was secondary to players like Oliver, Petracca, Frost, Jetta, McDonald, ANB and a few others.

It's indicative that his finest moment had nothing to do with footy skills.  I still think that he'll struggle for a game next season, all the signs are there.

He contributed plenty last night - 24 touches, 10 contested and 7 marks.

Stop thinking he needs to be one of our elites - that's not what he was brought to the club for. Of all those players you mentioned - none of them had the presence of mind to instruct ANB to chip and effectively seal the win beyond all doubt.

Good game from Lewis IMO

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The biggest concern is his kicking skills and decision making, they were supposed to be a strength of his but they have been poor so far.

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17 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The biggest concern is his kicking skills and decision making, they were supposed to be a strength of his but they have been poor so far.

Lewis is the best kick I have ever seen. Golfers and table tennis players normally hook or slice depending on the shot they play. 

Watch Lewis hold the ball when he kicks at goal he tilts it to get the curve he wants with a drop punt. Then he kicks on the the right plane for it to work. I've never seen any player do that before.

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Just now, Wrecker45 said:

Lewis is the best kick I have ever seen. Golfers and table tennis players normally hook or slice depending on the shot they play. 

Watch Lewis hold the ball when he kicks at goal he tilts it to get the curve he wants with a drop punt. Then he kicks on the the right plane for it to work. I've never seen any player do that before.

It would be handy if he could actually execute this skill in games and under pressure for Melbourne.

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18 minutes ago, yoSMOKIE said:

He contributed plenty last night - 24 touches, 10 contested and 7 marks.

Stop thinking he needs to be one of our elites - that's not what he was brought to the club for. Of all those players you mentioned - none of them had the presence of mind to instruct ANB to chip and effectively seal the win beyond all doubt.

Good game from Lewis IMO

I didn't say it wasn't a good game, I just said it wasn't an influential one.  And I'm a long way from expecting him to be one of our elites, believe me.

You won't see anywhere that I've said he's not worth his spot in the team.  I've said that many here overrate his influence and that he has a short shelf life.  Interestingly now that I, along with a very few others, have questioned his football output there is a growing awareness of his footballing weaknesses.

I'm projecting that he is closer to the end than many think.  I don't rate his on field leadership as much as others but I fully accept that yesterday in the last minute he was very smart.  I was one of the first to call out Lumumba and was roundly criticised for it.  I might be right or I might be wrong with Lewis but his situation is similar to Trengove - he is slow by AFL standards and despite all the other attributes he has that is a deal breaker when it reaches a certain point.

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15 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I didn't say it wasn't a good game, I just said it wasn't an influential one.  And I'm a long way from expecting him to be one of our elites, believe me.

You won't see anywhere that I've said he's not worth his spot in the team.  I've said that many here overrate his influence and that he has a short shelf life.  Interestingly now that I, along with a very few others, have questioned his football output there is a growing awareness of his footballing weaknesses.

I'm projecting that he is closer to the end than many think.  I don't rate his on field leadership as much as others but I fully accept that yesterday in the last minute he was very smart.  I was one of the first to call out Lumumba and was roundly criticised for it.  I might be right or I might be wrong with Lewis but his situation is similar to Trengove - he is slow by AFL standards and despite all the other attributes he has that is a deal breaker when it reaches a certain point.

Good post, I hear what you're saying and won't try to argue with any of that. 

 

Time will tell - lets hope you're wrong! (If we play September this year I think we'll see why we need him more than ever)

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57 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Boy he goes to ground a lot.

Yeah, I don't remember him being that way in the past.

Of course, being juxtaposed against Viney, Oliver, and Petracca doesn't help because they rarely go to ground when picking up the footy.

My main issue is the glaring wasting of the footy from time to time - looks needless. I would like to put it down to a new system and getting used to the kicks that were 'there' are not 'there' anymore in a new system with a different set of players.

But, again, he was better and he will need to maintain it for the next month.

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Boy he goes to ground a lot.

He goes to ground a lot trying to lay a tackle or compete for the ball.  It's more a lung trying to make up for a lack of pace.