angriest i've seen him post match.

Just watched the presser and I'm a lot more sold on him now! I reckon he would have given the players a rocket.

 

effort is a starting point, we will waste our potential if its not matched with effort. 

Goodwin is doing ok, think he's still assessing where we're at, the most disappointing thing about last 2 weeks is disposal, mainly in the first half, has been pathetically weak, it's the most frustrating part of our game, its cost us at least 3 games this year

11 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Sad isn't it. 

Extremely

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

Tom draws a diagram of Melbourne's zone defence for brother Oscar. 

Haha gong him red!

I just watched the presser and my first instinct is he was rightly [censored] off. Haven't seen more angry then that.

Goody is fine. At least he tried a few things which i enjoyed. One thing Roosy never did was try and change things up when we were down. Was pretty one dimensional in his game day changing.

Edited May 8, 20178 yr by dazzledavey36

Just watched the presser and loved it. He was hurting and furious. Glad to see it. He was professional, but clearly very, very frustrated. 

Loved his wraps on Frost and Viney too.

Just as a side note, our midfield has really gone up a cog under his stewardship. 

When was the last time we had 5 mids averaging 25 disposals or more? Imagine if he'd had access to Gawn for more than two and half games.

19 minutes ago, A F said:

Just watched the presser and loved it. He was hurting and furious. Glad to see it. He was professional, but clearly very, very frustrated. 

Loved his wraps on Frost and Viney too.

Just as a side note, our midfield has really gone up a cog under his stewardship. 

When was the last time we had 5 mids averaging 25 disposals or more? Imagine if he'd had access to Gawn for more than two and half games.

Yep was pizzed off...and perplexed, as are we all i think.

8 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Yep was pizzed off...and perplexed, as are we all i think.

I wouldn't have said he was perplexed. More frustrated. He understands (and demands) that there needs to be 100% intensity, otherwise anyone is beatable in such an even competition.

23 minutes ago, A F said:

I wouldn't have said he was perplexed. More frustrated. He understands (and demands) that there needs to be 100% intensity, otherwise anyone is beatable in such an even competition.

It is time that Goodwin demanded 100% intensity at the first bounce. 

Most humans do it naturally, but the MFC have great difficulty remembering this simple rule. 

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It is time that Goodwin demanded 100% intensity at the first bounce. 

Most humans do it naturally, but the MFC have great difficulty remembering this simple rule. 

I imagine he already does..... perhaps the players didn't give 100% intensity?

21 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It is time that Goodwin demanded 100% intensity at the first bounce. 

Most humans do it naturally, but the MFC have great difficulty remembering this simple rule. 

Goodwin will be smacking his forehead and wondering why he didn't think of that.

Goodwin and all the players would be well aware that you need to be switched on from the start. They don't get off to poor starts on purpose. I agree that it's a problem that needs to be addressed, but I doubt the answer is as simple as Goodwin thumping the desk and demanding stuff.

15 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I imagine he already does..... perhaps the players didn't give 100% intensity?

I am sure you are right. But why?

this problem is embedded within the walls

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Goodwin will be smacking his forehead and wondering why he didn't think of that.

Goodwin and all the players would be well aware that you need to be switched on from the start. They don't get off to poor starts on purpose. I agree that it's a problem that needs to be addressed, but I doubt the answer is as simple as Goodwin thumping the desk and demanding stuff.

The players haven't attacked a First Quarter all year. You can dismiss it as a flippant comment if you wish, but this exact problem has taken down a few good coaches at the MFC. 

Look up 1971 results and follow our progress 

classic Melbourne year...

The next couple of seasons will be the judge of Goodwin. At present we are inconsistent, and largely ineffective. If that trend continues then we will finish bottom 6 and Goodwin will have the job ahead of him to turn that around next year. Ultimately I think Goodwin's biggest challenge will be to throw out what doesn't work, and find a way to identify - and implement -  what does work. He may have to target some outside resources (coaches, assistants, etc) in order to get some finer details into his game plan ( or even change his game plan). For so long we have focused on culture, and trying to rebuild some of these damaged souls, but at present we are having a problem with players implementing basic common sense skills. There is no real need in today's game for players to bomb and hack the ball into our forward 50. I was hoping that trait left our club when we offloaded Moloney to the Lions.

1 hour ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I imagine he already does..... perhaps the players didn't give 100% intensity?

I struggle to fully understand the intensity thing sometimes. I understand how one or two players might not be 100% focused as the game started but how is it all 18 on the field? 

The Hawks pressure was immense that game, and obviously something Clarkson was reinforcing the whole game. 

My only conclusion is that Goodwin's emphasis was more on game plan before the game "the run and carry style" and didn't emphasise the pressure and structure stuff because he would just assume they know all that, but without that focus, it wasn't front of mind for them.

11 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I struggle to fully understand the intensity thing sometimes. I understand how one or two players might not be 100% focused as the game started but how is it all 18 on the field? 

The Hawks pressure was immense that game, and obviously something Clarkson was reinforcing the whole game. 

My only conclusion is that Goodwin's emphasis was more on game plan before the game "the run and carry style" and didn't emphasise the pressure and structure stuff because he would just assume they know all that, but without that focus, it wasn't front of mind for them.

Yeah perhaps.

I feel like first quarters are more about intensity. After that the game settles and you can just discuss game plan.

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Goodwin will be smacking his forehead and wondering why he didn't think of that.

Goodwin and all the players would be well aware that you need to be switched on from the start. They don't get off to poor starts on purpose. I agree that it's a problem that needs to be addressed, but I doubt the answer is as simple as Goodwin thumping the desk and demanding stuff.

So i ask. If being aware and actually doing it seem two disencoupled attributes, who wears it ?

There's obviously no simple fix as Simon, im sure , is just smacking himself in the head til a vision of the answer appears.

In the meantime the Mighty Dees get jumped more than the hedges at Warnambool !!

Be laughable if not our Achilles heel !!

Goodwin would be quietly chaffed about beating his old team on their home turf.

Fair to say that he and Bernie had some inside knowledge on how to play that ground and many Crow players strengths and weaknesses.

This game may the one people will look back and say 'Goodwin announced himself as a coach'.  Awesome play by a coach who has been in the hot seat for a few months.  Shows a steely resolve and confidence.

He is doing so much right.  I especially like that in many games this year he has made a lot of moves at half time.  Makes it really unpredictable for op coaches to reset during the game.

Loved the way the team really played for him last night. 

Proud night for all concerned.

Somehow he got them to tackle properly last night-bringing the enemy down to ground and pushing off to get up for the next contest.

i have never seen the players make such good second and third efforts, and such quick recoveries.

The other brilliant thing last night was the taps, knocks,palms,punches and slaps to advantage.

I am certain this was instructed by Goodwin-it stopped the ring a rosy handball and kept momentum moving our way-stopped the flat footed sharing of the previous weeks.

12 minutes ago, Biffen said:

The other brilliant thing last night was the taps, knocks,palms,punches and slaps to advantage.

I am certain this was instructed by Goodwin-it stopped the ring a rosy handball and kept momentum moving our way-stopped the flat footed sharing of the previous weeks.

I was going to be rather humble about my pre-game comments but you give me the perfect segway to bask in a little sunshine.  I don't know how to quote a post from another (Match Preview) thread but here is my post #274:

"When we played StKilda round 1, a turning point was when we stopped trying to take possession of the ball and moved it forward at all costs by any means eg push, tap, kick off the ground.  It was very successful for us and a good way to get the ball out of the pack. Since then we have predominantly relied on handballs which results in overusing the ball.

Hawks and Bulldogs are masters at moving the ball without taking possession - after all without possession you can't be tackled. 

Circular handball will play into the Crows' hands so I would like to see us move the ball without taking possession more often as it works to our advantage being the shorter side and allows our speedier players to go to work".

OK I am showing off so will see myself out now...

Edited May 13, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Said last week the big thing i love about Goody is that he is very proactive in changing things up when we are down. This was my biggest frustration with Paul Roos. Would never change things up and was very one dimensional.

Tmac up forward and Petracca into the guts.

Huge tick for Goody

Today I watched the replay of a game which in my weary arthritic bones -  I have Kneemonia, Toesolitis and very probably dicktheria - I knew we would win. ( I have just returned from a week in SA and have noted the moral decline of the natives there, even though the quality of the drinking water has risen about an inch in quality since last I visited - in 2016. I also have worked out why many South Australians have weird habits. I believe it's because they have totally lost touch with how to get a lather up in the shower. I believe they work so hard to achieve this unattainable level of lathering, they have lost sight of the big picture. It possibly accounts for the weird utterances of the likes of Bernardi, Avanda Manstone and that curiously suited penguin imitator, Cristopher Pain, as they pronounce it at the levels I mix with while I'm over there.)

I had not felt this way ahead of the Geelong, Freemantle, Hawthorn and Richmond games, though in the end, we could have won all four of those.

Goodwin's after game press conference was impressive. He kept pointing out the Demons are a team still learning how to win. He reminded us deluded post-1964 geriatrics - where I remind you we won a flag with Graham Wise as our excuse for a ruckman, perhaps proving Leigh Matthew's point that ruckmen are superfluous - well he may or may not know a thing or two about winning a flag, what we do know for sure, however, is that he was a thug of the first order - that young teams like ours find many ways to circumnavigate certain victory.

 

11 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Goodwin would be quietly chaffed about beating his old team on their home turf.

Fair to say that he and Bernie had some inside knowledge on how to play that ground and many Crow players strengths and weaknesses.

 

I'm thinking this comment may be a slight oversight. Though Adelaide Oval is nearly identical in total square meters to our new spiritual home of Ethiad. Which probably matters when you're running a high zone.

 

I'm loving Goodies creativity.

His an inovater