Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
3 hours ago, Choke said:

Except I didn't actually post on the schools issue.

I posted on Dutton's quote of what constitutes a 'normal environment'. I even said the carols thing isn't a big issue for me. I didn't tell anyone to not celebrate anything. Hell I'm an athiest and I don't get offended when some says Merry Christmas. Honestly not that big a deal.

Did you actually read my post? Or just assume I was a leftie getting angry because the right are complaining about carols? I wasn't.

 

DC's probably right. I'm likely to thin skinned on the issue. Just that I don't like Dutton's exclusionary definition of what constitutes 'normal', especially given the trend of reducing religious belief. Probably a non-issue for a lot of people. Made me angry was all.

It's OK Choke.  When bereft of calm and rationale debate, people resort to epithets such as 'leftie'.  If 'leftie' means questioning the status quo then so be it.  I am a leftie and proud of it

  • Like 3

Posted
2 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

It's OK Choke.  When bereft of calm and rationale debate, people resort to epithets such as 'leftie'.  If 'leftie' means questioning the status quo then so be it.  I am a leftie and proud of it

iv'a, I'm sure that if you are searching for calm and rational, we are unlikely to see you anywhere near the hipster uni student protest movement?

Or any left wing protest for that matter. The last bastion of calm and rational, for sure.

I thought the post Trump election, Demmycrats dummy spit was a hoot. 

 

 

 

 

Posted
22 minutes ago, faultydet said:

iv'a, I'm sure that if you are searching for calm and rational, we are unlikely to see you anywhere near the hipster uni student protest movement?

Or any left wing protest for that matter. The last bastion of calm and rational, for sure.

I thought the post Trump election, Demmycrats dummy spit was a hoot. 

 

 

 

 

I am not a protesting Uni student, though I was during the Vietnam war days.  That said, standing up for what you truly believe in is not something that should automatically be trashed, simply because others disagree with a particular stance.  Name calling is the last bastion of scoundrels, much the same as jingoistic patriotism nationalism.

We live in a global economy.  That's fine, as it underwrites your superannuation.  But a global humanity?  No way. 

Posted
1 hour ago, faultydet said:

iv'a, I'm sure that if you are searching for calm and rational, we are unlikely to see you anywhere near the hipster uni student protest movement?

Or any left wing protest for that matter. The last bastion of calm and rational, for sure.

I thought the post Trump election, Demmycrats dummy spit was a hoot. 

 

 

 

 

Because the right wing was so rational when Obama won in 08?

http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855

My personal favourite:

ph569iqxc02qbwe.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

There are nut jobs on both sides FD.

Posted
5 hours ago, Choke said:

Because the right wing was so rational when Obama won in 08?

http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855

My personal favourite:

ph569iqxc02qbwe.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

There are nut jobs on both sides FD.

Scum

Nothing more needs to be said. The extremes are certainly ugly, aren't they.

Posted
5 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

I am not a protesting Uni student, though I was during the Vietnam war days.  That said, standing up for what you truly believe in is not something that should automatically be trashed, simply because others disagree with a particular stance.  Name calling is the last bastion of scoundrels, much the same as jingoistic patriotism nationalism.

We live in a global economy.  That's fine, as it underwrites your superannuation.  But a global humanity?  No way. 

If by global humanity, you mean open borders, then, I agree. No way.

 

I don't think you actually mean that though, do you?

Posted
10 hours ago, faultydet said:

If by global humanity, you mean open borders, then, I agree. No way.

 

I don't think you actually mean that though, do you?

What I mean is, while we are happy to reap the dividends of the cash in our super funds swilling around the world, it would be nice to also have some global humanity which recognises that commonly used cliches, urban myths and labels do not apply to all and sundry.

We have border control.  It is called the Migration Act and Regulations of Australia, with a recurring subclause regulation contained within the various Schedules of the Regulations that; the Minister must be satisfied.  By this clause alone, herein lies the unfettered power of the Minister.

But, rather, we choose to believe the tabloid media, rather than codified Law.

I find it pretty ironic that most people who wish to tarnish those seeking to come to Australia, also call themselves Christians.  Perhaps those same people might like to read the Beatitudes.

Anyway, that comes from a 'leftie', so feel free to dismiss it out of hand. 

  • Like 1

Posted
23 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

I am not a protesting Uni student, though I was during the Vietnam war days.  That said, standing up for what you truly believe in is not something that should automatically be trashed, simply because others disagree with a particular stance.  Name calling is the last bastion of scoundrels, much the same as jingoistic patriotism nationalism.

We live in a global economy.  That's fine, as it underwrites your superannuation.  But a global humanity?  No way. 

Can I ask a serious question please?

Were you one of the people who spat on the returning soldiers?

Not insinuating anything at all, but interested to know.

Posted (edited)
Quote

Can I ask a serious question please?

Were you one of the people who spat on the returning soldiers?

Not insinuating anything at all, but interested to know.

Not at all.  I have the utmost respect for those who fought a war foisted upon them by the government of the time.  I admire those who fought for what they believed in, even if I did not.  On one trip to the 'G this year, there was a fella selling 50 year Vietnam anniversary badges in Yarra Park.  I made a point of buying a $20 badge and I wore it with pride.

The period of the Vietnam War was part of me; it helped form what I am today.  But you highlight a point I have been trying to make.  Just because you may not agree with something, does not mean you have to trash talk those that do.

I go to Vietnam a lot for my work and when I do, I try to go to the places where the Aussies fought and sadly died.  

Edited by iv'a worn smith
  • Like 1

Posted

I protested the Vietnam War at the same time my brother was over there as a National Serviceman.

I had respect for the soldiers, but not for the government decision to involve our country in it. It was a stupid and needless war.

I wanted to bring my brother home as much as I wanted the war to end.

  • Like 3
Posted
4 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Not at all.  I have the utmost respect for those who fought a war foisted upon them by the government of the time.  I admire those who fought for what they believed in, even if I did not.  On one trip to the 'G this year, there was a fella selling 50 year Vietnam anniversary badges in Yarra Park.  I made a point of buying a $20 badge and I wore it with pride.

The period of the Vietnam War was part of me; it helped form what I am today.  But you highlight a point I have been trying to make.  Just because you may not agree with something, does not mean you have to trash talk those that do.

I go to Vietnam a lot for my work and when I do, I try to go to the places where the Aussies fought and sadly died.  

I didn't highlight any point.

I asked a question, pure and simple. No malice intended.

Trash talking would get me banned.

I've been to Long Tan. Absolutely heroic deeds done in our name.

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

What I mean is, while we are happy to reap the dividends of the cash in our super funds swilling around the world, it would be nice to also have some global humanity which recognises that commonly used cliches, urban myths and labels do not apply to all and sundry.

 

Wishy washy.

 

What do you actually mean?

 

I'm reading it as "some of your super is invested overseas, so we should do something something for overseas people maybe involving nice words"?

Edited by faultydet
Posted
4 hours ago, mauriesy said:

I protested the Vietnam War at the same time my brother was over there as a National Serviceman.

I had respect for the soldiers, but not for the government decision to involve our country in it. It was a stupid and needless war.

I wanted to bring my brother home as much as I wanted the war to end.

Hope he made it home mate.

Posted
On 16/12/2016 at 1:09 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Dutton is a right wing liberal, so don't expect too much. 

Their attitude i "My Way or else"

Dutton along with Brandis is on a par with Peter Reith for my most despised Canberra List Clogger

Ex-Queensland cop say no more

Posted
13 hours ago, faultydet said:

I didn't highlight any point.

I asked a question, pure and simple. No malice intended.

Trash talking would get me banned.

I've been to Long Tan. Absolutely heroic deeds done in our name.

"A boy cries out for his mama, before he dies for his home"

Posted
12 hours ago, faultydet said:

Wishy washy.

 

What do you actually mean?

 

I'm reading it as "some of your super is invested overseas, so we should do something something for overseas people maybe involving nice words"?

Mate, why are you being so antagonistic?   What is wishy washy about the fact that the majority of superannuants, other than those with self managed funds, will have at least a portion of their super invested in overseas markets and cash.  Pure fact.  So the point is, while we may be happy to reap the benefits which flow from a global economy, not many are happy to accept the sometimes harsh reality of a global humanity.  Rather ironic.

 

  • Like 2
Posted
24 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Mate, why are you being so antagonistic?   What is wishy washy about the fact that the majority of superannuants, other than those with self managed funds, will have at least a portion of their super invested in overseas markets and cash.  Pure fact.  So the point is, while we may be happy to reap the benefits which flow from a global economy, not many are happy to accept the sometimes harsh reality of a global humanity.  Rather ironic.

 

Im seeking an answer.

What is your actual definition of a "global humanity", as I have never heard of that term before.

Are you advocating open borders, freedom of movement? What the hell does the term mean?

 

I don't give a [censored] where my super is invested. Could not care less. Am I supposed to think I am part of suppressing the poor masses with my super?

Bloody hell mate, get a grip.


Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, faultydet said:

Im seeking an answer.

What is your actual definition of a "global humanity", as I have never heard of that term before.

Are you advocating open borders, freedom of movement? What the hell does the term mean?

 

I don't give a [censored] where my super is invested. Could not care less. Am I supposed to think I am part of suppressing the poor masses with my super?

Bloody hell mate, get a grip.

I have not stated that anywhere in any of my posts mate.  Unfortunate that you need a definition of what a global humanity might be.  As I have previously stated, I have never advocated open borders.  We already have Laws in this country that protect our borders, known as the Migration Act and Regulations of Australia.  But to demonise people who seek to come here is an entirely different issue.  I think it might be you who needs to get  grip on the facts.  You have missed the point entirely.

Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth.

 

Edited by iv'a worn smith
Posted
3 hours ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Mate, why are you being so antagonistic?   What is wishy washy about the fact that the majority of superannuants, other than those with self managed funds, will have at least a portion of their super invested in overseas markets and cash.  Pure fact.  So the point is, while we may be happy to reap the benefits which flow from a global economy, not many are happy to accept the sometimes harsh reality of a global humanity.  Rather ironic.

 

A lot of SMSF's actually have overseas exposure as well via managed funds, so it might be even more Australians than you thought.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Choke said:

A lot of SMSF's actually have overseas exposure as well via managed funds, so it might be even more Australians than you thought.

I suspect you are right Choke, but I was trying to be conservative on that one

  • Like 1
Posted
On 12/19/2016 at 1:12 PM, daisycutter said:

who wants to be 'normal', choke :o

i dream of being normal....alas.....sigh...

Posted
On 12/19/2016 at 1:26 PM, iv'a worn smith said:

  When bereft of calm and rationale debate, people resort to epithets.

 This will just about do it.

 

Posted (edited)
On 23/12/2016 at 5:27 PM, daisycutter said:

ok nut, you are a white, racist, capitalist colonial. feel any better?

I must confess that as a left wing radical youth I opposed men like Dutton.

As the labour movement finds transgender transitioning, Refugees and a leader with a pronounced speech impediment to be the way forward I find myself drawn  now towards those who speak the truth.

Duttons denouncement of the Lebanese families who support terrorism and have caused 70% of the terrorist acts here won me over.

Multiculturalism works only when you have a reasonably compatible intake of people.

I like Brexit and I'm enthused byTrumps victory .

 The white colonial has brought with him the rule of law, medicine as we know it, and respectable governance wherever he lives.

We hear a lot of criticism of whitey but as far as colonising goes the British and French improved the world.

Africa,India and the Middle East would be nowhere without them.A fact that irks many of them but they would still be flogging spice with an abacus if  the white colonial devil didn't come proselytising .

Waleed Aly will come out and knock Duttons speech in parliament which is his right.

Waleed Aly reads co written speeches seeking mass appeal. He is wedged by facts. He speaks of Colonialism as the chief destroyer of the magnificent Ottoman Empire and its revered institutions.

Tough luck to the Ottomans.

I really don't see an alternative to Western Democracy in  a world still under the spell of ancient religion.

 

 

 

Edited by Biffen
  • Like 2

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    2024 Player Reviews: #15 Ed Langdon

    The Demon running machine came back with a vengeance after a leaner than usual year in 2023.  Date of Birth: 1 February 1996 Height: 182cm Games MFC 2024: 22 Career Total: 179 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 76 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5 Melbourne Football Club: 5th Best & Fairest: 352 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 6

    2024 Player Reviews: #24 Trent Rivers

    The premiership defender had his best year yet as he was given the opportunity to move into the midfield and made a good fist of it. Date of Birth: 30 July 2001 Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 100 Goals MFC 2024: 2 Career Total:  9 Brownlow Medal Votes: 7 Melbourne Football Club: 6th Best & Fairest: 350 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 2

    TRAINING: Monday 11th November 2024

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin, Slartibartfast & Demon Wheels were on hand at Gosch's Paddock to kick off the official first training session for the 1st to 4th year players with a few elder statesmen in attendance as well. KEV MARTIN'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Beautiful morning. Joy all round, they look like they want to be there.  21 in the squad. Looks like the leadership group is TMac, Viney Chandler and Petty. They look like they have sli

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    2024 Player Reviews: #1 Steven May

    The years are rolling by but May continued to be rock solid in a key defensive position despite some injury concerns. He showed great resilience in coming back from a nasty rib injury and is expected to continue in that role for another couple of seasons. Date of Birth: 10 January 1992 Height: 193cm Games MFC 2024: 19 Career Total: 235 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 24 Melbourne Football Club: 9th Best & Fairest: 316 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons

    2024 Player Reviews: #4 Judd McVee

    It was another strong season from McVee who spent most of his time mainly at half back but he also looked at home on a few occasions when he was moved into the midfield. There could be more of that in 2025. Date of Birth: 7 August 2003 Height: 185cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 48 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 1 Brownlow Medal Votes: 1 Melbourne Football Club: 7th Best & Fairest: 347 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    2024 Player Reviews: #31 Bayley Fritsch

    Once again the club’s top goal scorer but he had a few uncharacteristic flat spots during the season and the club will be looking for much better from him in 2025. Date of Birth: 6 December 1996 Height: 188cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 149 Goals MFC 2024: 41 Career Total: 252 Brownlow Medal Votes: 4

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 9

    2024 Player Reviews: #18 Jake Melksham

    After sustaining a torn ACL in the final match of the 2023 season Jake added a bit to the attack late in the 2024 season upon his return. He has re-signed on to the Demons for 1 more season in 2025. Date of Birth: 12 August 1991 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 229 Goals MFC 2024: 8 Career Total: 188

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 7

    2024 Player Reviews: #3 Christian Salem

    The luckless Salem suffered a hamstring injury against the Lions early in the season and, after missing a number of games, he was never at his best. He was also inconvenienced by minor niggles later in the season. This was a blow for the club that sorely needed him to fill gaps in the midfield at times as well as to do his best work in defence. Date of Birth: 15 July 1995 Height: 184cm Games MFC 2024: 17 Career Total: 176 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 26 Brownlow Meda

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8

    2024 Player Reviews: #39 Koltyn Tholstrop

    The first round draft pick at #13 from twelve months ago the strongly built medium forward has had an impressive introduction to AFL football and is expected to spend more midfield moments as his career progresses. Date of Birth: 25 July 2005 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 10 Goals MFC 2024: 5 Career Total: 5 Games CDFC 2024: 7 Goals CDFC 2024: 4

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 9
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...