Would it seriously hurt to give this guy a crack on the rookie list where a full time professional environment could do him good? Been a shining light over the finals series and at 192cm and 92kg he could add depth next year as a 3rd tall while Weidemen and Hulett continue to develop.

He'd be a massive upgrade on Dawes, and has that Russell Robertson X Factor where he can pull marks out of his ass from no where.

What i also love about him is his forward pressure and tackling, something our tall forwards struggle to do. Hits them hard and harasses when inside 50.

31 goals this year which is a great effort.

Thoughts?

I'd be shocked if he isn't drafted, i'd absolutely be looking at him, especially with at least one of Dawes and Pedo leaving. 

we've had a very close look so we're in a very good position to make a call.

He'll get a gig somewhere. Have to say I can't believe he's 192cm. Just from the little footage I've seen of him I'd always assumed he were a small forward, maybe 180cm.

Hasn't been invited to any National combine or state trial so hopefully we can get first dibs on him.

Edited September 26, 20168 yr by dazzledavey36

He's certainly improved his consistency.  I love his defensive pressure and he's always been able to take a big mark. 

I agree it couldn't hurt to bring him in and see if he can take another step.  He's in the right age bracket and importantly he's a good kick which we desperately need. 

He certainly hasn't hurt his chances this finals series.

Good on him for having faith in himself, he could have taken the easy way and earned a lot of cash playing in the locals.

Wouldn't be unhappy to see us take him on. 

  On 26/09/2016 at 02:52, dazzledavey36 said:

Would it seriously hurt to give this guy a crack on the rookie list where a full time professional environment could do him good? Been a shining light over the finals series and at 192cm and 92kg he could add depth next year as a 3rd tall while Weidemen and Hulett continue to develop.

He'd be a massive upgrade on Dawes, and has that Russell Robertson X Factor where he can pull marks out of his ass from no where.

What i also love about him is his forward pressure and tackling, something our tall forwards struggle to do. Hits them hard and harasses when inside 50.

31 goals this year which is a great effort.

Thoughts?

I've been wanting him on our list for the past couple of years. I thought he had some talent to explore.

Now maybe he is mature enough?  Don't know why he hasn't been rookied before now.

I hope we do.  They're is a bit of Brett Lovett about him in some way?

Is the rookie list continuing next year? I think it's AFLPA that wants it scrapped and playing lists extended (mainly to up the pay of those who would previously have been rookies). Would the change matter anyway, if the club wanted him?

I've seen him play quite a few times and add my enthusiasm, for his Robertson-skills and Lovett-hardattheballness. However (and maybe someone out there knows him?) would there be a query on his capacity for the constant training and other rigours at AFL level? He seems to be in the 'country footballer' mould (apologies to country footballers present and past!)

I've watched a lot of Tim Smith iver the last few years and have always been a fan.

He's always been a very good mark, however he was very inconsistent and used to be an average shot for goal at best.

His goal kicking improved over one off season however and this year he has been far more consistent, being named ar CHF in the VFL team of the year.

Don't know if we'd be the team to draft him unless they think of moving Hulett to defense, as i think any key forwards we add in the off season will have an ability to play ruck or in worst case scenario and Hogan goes, be a stop gap option till Weideman's ready like Jay Schulz.

Could see him walking into Richmond's 22 however as that 3rd tall forward.

  On 26/09/2016 at 07:03, AngryAtCasey said:

Don't know if we'd be the team to draft him unless they think of moving Hulett to defense, as i think any key forwards we add in the off season will have an ability to play ruck or in worst case scenario and Hogan goes, be a stop gap option till Weideman's ready like Jay Schulz.

Could see him walking into Richmond's 22 however as that 3rd tall forward.

 

This.

 

He looks like an ideal third tall, but in I remain to be convinced he suits our structure.

 

Now watch us not draft him and dominate  2017 for his afl club!

I keep thinking of Tory Dickson when I think of Tim Smith, but I'm completely unaware if he has put in the work on the track and shown the commitment/attitude/work ethic, or if he just turns up on the weekend and gets by on talent.

  On 26/09/2016 at 02:52, dazzledavey36 said:

Would it seriously hurt to give this guy a crack on the rookie list where a full time professional environment could do him good? Been a shining light over the finals series and at 192cm and 92kg he could add depth next year as a 3rd tall while Weidemen and Hulett continue to develop.

He'd be a massive upgrade on Dawes, and has that Russell Robertson X Factor where he can pull marks out of his ass from no where.

What i also love about him is his forward pressure and tackling, something our tall forwards struggle to do. Hits them hard and harasses when inside 50.

31 goals this year which is a great effort.

Thoughts?

How old is he?

How old is Tim Smith? anyone

  On 26/09/2016 at 08:41, Demons11 said:

How old is he?

 

  On 26/09/2016 at 09:50, ENYAW said:

How old is Tim Smith? anyone

Turns 26 in Feb.

  On 26/09/2016 at 07:42, Mach5 said:

I keep thinking of Tory Dickson when I think of Tim Smith, but I'm completely unaware if he has put in the work on the track and shown the commitment/attitude/work ethic, or if he just turns up on the weekend and gets by on talent.

Same. Not sure he's as good a goal kicker as Dickson. But I think he's more athletic, takes a bigger grab and is more of a bull with his tackling.

If he was 21 all the clubs would want him, at 25 I'm not so sure. 

He battled away pretty well in the grand final given he got a nasty corky.

  On 26/09/2016 at 02:54, Abe said:

I'd be shocked if he isn't drafted, i'd absolutely be looking at him, especially with at least one of Dawes and Pedo leaving. 

we've had a very close look so we're in a very good position to make a call.

Some people are easily shocked.

  On 26/09/2016 at 22:50, Nasher said:

Some people are easily shocked.

CHF in the vic team of the year, in a VFL side that made the GF and has shown some very clear AFL level attributes, if it were my call i'd absolutely be taking him, would love to see the rationale of a person who didn't want him on their list, even as a rookie

  On 26/09/2016 at 22:55, Abe said:

CHF in the vic team of the year, in a VFL side that made the GF and has shown some very clear AFL level attributes, if it were my call i'd absolutely be taking him, would love to see the rationale of a person who didn't want him on their list, even as a rookie

I get the logic and the love, but was just amused by "shocked". I wouldn't be at all shocked, players like this, especially at his age, are overlooked *all the time*. Personally I'll be surprised if he is drafted - as a general pattern, clubs won't use a place on their list on undersized, most goal output forwards.

  On 26/09/2016 at 22:58, Nasher said:

I get the logic and the love, but was just amused by "shocked". I wouldn't be at all shocked, players like this, especially at his age, are overlooked *all the time*. Personally I'll be surprised if he is drafted - as a general pattern, clubs won't use a place on their list on undersized, most goal output forwards.

Kennedy has one Nasher.

  On 26/09/2016 at 06:50, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Is the rookie list continuing next year? I think it's AFLPA that wants it scrapped and playing lists extended (mainly to up the pay of those who would previously have been rookies). Would the change matter anyway, if the club wanted him?

I've seen him play quite a few times and add my enthusiasm, for his Robertson-skills and Lovett-hardattheballness. However (and maybe someone out there knows him?) would there be a query on his capacity for the constant training and other rigours at AFL level? He seems to be in the 'country footballer' mould (apologies to country footballers present and past!)

Like a bulldozer, he has a low centre of gravity, hurts opponents, & can launch in the air as well.  I don't know what his vision & hands are like inside, but I'd like Us to find out.

 

  On 26/09/2016 at 07:03, AngryAtCasey said:

I've watched a lot of Tim Smith iver the last few years and have always been a fan.

He's always been a very good mark, however he was very inconsistent and used to be an average shot for goal at best.

His goal kicking improved over one off season however and this year he has been far more consistent, being named ar CHF in the VFL team of the year.

Don't know if we'd be the team to draft him unless they think of moving Hulett to defense, as i think any key forwards we add in the off season will have an ability to play ruck or in worst case scenario and Hogan goes, be a stop gap option till Weideman's ready like Jay Schulz.

Could see him walking into Richmond's 22 however as that 3rd tall forward.

could he be a larger version of Rockliff ?

  On 26/09/2016 at 09:59, AngryAtCasey said:

 

Turns 26 in Feb.

We're short on for 26Yr olds.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2016&sby=15

  On 26/09/2016 at 22:55, Abe said:

CHF in the vic team of the year, in a VFL side that made the GF and has shown some very clear AFL level attributes, if it were my call i'd absolutely be taking him, would love to see the rationale of a person who didn't want him on their list, even as a rookie

Certainly at least a rookie spot.

  On 27/09/2016 at 12:28, DV8 said:

We're short on for 26Yr olds.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2016&sby=15

Agree 100% when you look at that 25-29yo bracket it's very thin.  Hibberd does add one to it.

  On 27/09/2016 at 23:25, Fifty-5 said:

Agree 100% when you look at that 25-29yo bracket it's very thin.  Hibberd does add one to it.

Yep, our talent up in that age bracket gets thin after de-listings, and those getting closer to it.  We do need to bring in some more maturity, but ones who can play, & lead. 

 

They don't have to be stars, but they must be high quality & tough.

  On 27/09/2016 at 12:28, DV8 said:

Like a bulldozer, he has a low centre of gravity, hurts opponents, & can launch in the air as well.  I don't know what his vision & hands are like inside, but I'd like Us to find out.

 

could he be a larger version of Rockliff ?

We're short on for 26Yr olds.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2016&sby=15

Wait a year and we should be right...

  On 28/09/2016 at 10:24, Mach5 said:

Wait a year and we should be right...

Its  a rolling famine.

31	Grimes, Jack	100	27yr 4mth	11 May 1989	187cm	84kg	Northern Knights	Defender
36	Garlett, Jeff	146	27yr 1mth	3 Aug 1989	180cm	75kg	Swan Districts	Forward
46	Terlich, Dean	35	26yr 9mth

After these guys leave,  2017 we will be short on for 27Yr old leaders.