What 18,810 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, pineapple dee said: I realise now that my support for Collingwood was un ethical, un conscionable and un acceptable. I withdraw it and apologise to all. it is absolutely understandable to want the Pies to win. I will cheer for anyone thats playing against Essendrug. 3 Quote
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Bomber Thompson complaining that it ruined his life: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mark-thompson-says-the-essendon-supplement-scandal-will-probably-end-up-killing-him-20170420-gvogq5.html This is the bit that interests me: "I know what happened. I know that there was things that were added to the report, things were taken out of the report not to be seen." According to him, we are still blind to some of the events. The conflicted nature of the bodies involved compromised the contents of 'the report' (I assume this is the initial ASADA report?). He later implies the whole thing is the AFL's fault for not enforcing WADA's rules when Dank was at Gold Coast. His theory is that if they had, then Essendon wouldn't have hired him and none of this would have happened. I don't buy it. Essendon knew who they were in bed with IMHO. They are not the victims. 4 Quote
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, willmoy said: Maybe Ziggy's Yep, maybe. Either way, the fact that stuff has been removed and inserted into a report is troubling. Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I read that report and with my limited command of Q's English it looked to have been maybe, possibly,slightly, minutely altered but i'm no QC. Quote
What 18,810 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Choke said: Bomber Thompson complaining that it ruined his life: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mark-thompson-says-the-essendon-supplement-scandal-will-probably-end-up-killing-him-20170420-gvogq5.html This is the bit that interests me: "I know what happened. I know that there was things that were added to the report, things were taken out of the report not to be seen." According to him, we are still blind to some of the events. The conflicted nature of the bodies involved compromised the contents of 'the report' (I assume this is the initial ASADA report?). He later implies the whole thing is the AFL's fault for not enforcing WADA's rules when Dank was at Gold Coast. His theory is that if they had, then Essendon wouldn't have hired him and none of this would have happened. I don't buy it. Essendon knew who they were in bed with IMHO. They are not the victims. Didnt the weapon and Dank work at the Cats while Bomber was the senior coach? He would know them better than anyone. Zero sympathy. 3 Quote
Bluey's Dad 3,419 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Petraccattack said: Didnt the weapon and Dank work at the Cats while Bomber was the senior coach? He would know them better than anyone. Zero sympathy. I completely agree. It's the 'adding and removing' things from the 'report' (whichever that may be) that interests me in that article. We'll never know the full story and the full extent of who was complicit (and conflicted) in what action. The whole thing is dirty. Still no club-wide punishment for the doping. Only governance failures. WTF. 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Choke said: I completely agree. It's the 'adding and removing' things from the 'report' (whichever that may be) that interests me in that article. We'll never know the full story and the full extent of who was complicit (and conflicted) in what action. The whole thing is dirty. Still no club-wide punishment for the doping. Only governance failures. WTF. Maybe Thompson also knows where the records and reciepts are hidden if he "knows" what really happened. Tell all Bomba... get it off ya chest Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) It's just amazing, Dank, Hird, Thompson and others all know the truth and want it out but just can't seem to articulate it. It must be a terrible burden the verbal paralysis holding it all in against their will. Edited April 20, 2017 by america de cali 5 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 He needs help. He is still stuck somewhere between denial and anger. 3 Quote
Wadda We Sing 10,685 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 47 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: Maybe Thompson also knows where the records and reciepts are hidden if he "knows" what really happened. Tell all Bomba... get it off ya chest Yeah, after reading that...he knows more. Quote
Dante 2,739 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 How could the Essendon football department be adamant no prohibited substances were given to players, when there are no records and they can't say what they were given. "Thompson never understood why Essendon self-reported on that fateful February day in 2013 because the key figures in the football department were adamant no prohibited substances were given to their players." 2 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said: Yeah, after reading that...he knows more. Always suspected he knew the lot 1 Quote
biggestred 5,311 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Choke said: Yep, maybe. Either way, the fact that stuff has been removed and inserted into a report is troubling. Except he is only 1 person who wasnt conducting the investigation so he doesnt know what others know Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Thompson must know a lot what has happened at his club and at other clubs as well. Same as Dank, Hird etc. A lot of this has to do with being caught whilst others have gotten away with it. They are mightily [censored] off that they may be the scapegoated and made examples of. Problem is they can't say more without incriminating themselves and perhaps other clubs (Geelong, GC?) and paying a much higher price be it admitting a crime, being sued and further trashing their dodgy reputations. Thompson also has a couple of flags to protect. Edited April 20, 2017 by america de cali 3 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Petraccattack said: it is absolutely understandable to want the Pies to win. I will cheer for anyone thats playing against Essendrug. How about ... under certain circumstances. The Pies to win, with each of their 22 belting an EFC player and copping 6 weeks. Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Dante said: How could the Essendon football department be adamant no prohibited substances were given to players, when there are no records and they can't say what they were given. "Thompson never understood why Essendon self-reported on that fateful February day in 2013 because the key figures in the football department were adamant no prohibited substances were given to their players." Double negative. "Thompson never understood why Essendon self-reported on that fateful February day in 2013 because the key figures in the football department were adamant no prohibited substances were given to their players." Fixed. 1 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 3 hours ago, america de cali said: It's just amazing, Dank, Hird, Thompson and others all know the truth and want it out but just can't seem to articulate it. It must be a terrible burden the verbal paralysis holding it all in against their will. God. it must burn Hird up. Knowing that they'll all be in a very good place when the truth comes out. I suppose it's the AFL, Demetriou, McLachlan, ASADA, WADA, CAS, Fed police, ALP, Worksafe, and the boy scouts all colluding to prevent it. Can't be any other explanation. 3 Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Choke said: He later implies the whole thing is the AFL's fault for not enforcing WADA's rules when Dank was at Gold Coast. His theory is that if they had, then Essendon wouldn't have hired him and none of this would have happened. I don't buy it. Essendon knew who they were in bed with IMHO. They are not the victims. Classic logic error. "If the police had been on the ball they would have put in place better security and I wouldn't have been able to rob that bank." 5 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, Ted Fidge said: God. it must burn Hird up. Knowing that they'll all be in a very good place when the truth comes out. I suppose it's the AFL, Demetriou, McLachlan, ASADA, WADA, CAS, Fed police, ALP, Worksafe, and the boy scouts all colluding to prevent it. Can't be any other explanation. Don't forget "swiss family Robinson" 1 Quote
Wilbur 447 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Hope the pies smash the cheating swine. They deserve zero sympathy. Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Ted Fidge said: God. it must burn Hird up. Knowing that they'll all be in a very good place when the truth comes out. I suppose it's the AFL, Demetriou, McLachlan, ASADA, WADA, CAS, Fed police, ALP, Worksafe, and the boy scouts all colluding to prevent it. Can't be any other explanation. Jack Watts? 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 17 hours ago, Choke said: Bomber Thompson complaining that it ruined his life: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mark-thompson-says-the-essendon-supplement-scandal-will-probably-end-up-killing-him-20170420-gvogq5.html This is the bit that interests me: "I know what happened. I know that there was things that were added to the report, things were taken out of the report not to be seen." According to him, we are still blind to some of the events. The conflicted nature of the bodies involved compromised the contents of 'the report' (I assume this is the initial ASADA report?). He later implies the whole thing is the AFL's fault for not enforcing WADA's rules when Dank was at Gold Coast. His theory is that if they had, then Essendon wouldn't have hired him and none of this would have happened. I don't buy it. Essendon knew who they were in bed with IMHO. They are not the victims. That's all based on the assumption that he did anything illegal at the Gold Coast, given he was also involved at the cats I think bomber knew all he needed to know. If you have some evidence bomber please come forwards otherwise stfu 2 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Bomber, like many involved has his version of events at Essendon. Im sure he has his own version too of his time in and arround Geelong Me thinks Mr Thompson talks a lot of shlt. 2 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 Yeah, I too find it hard to believe all these people who claim innocence and blame others yet don't reveal the records or any other info that might clear them. Dank, the Weapon, Bomber, Hird, the players etc. Can't have it both ways. BOMBER, IF YOU ARE INNOCENT THEN SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE GOT, ALL OF IT, OTHERWISE CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR HOLE AND SHUT UP! 7 Quote
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