AFLCA Gary Ayres Award

[Mach5 4,767]

The new AFLCA "finals MVP" essentially. It is just like the regular season AFLCA award, where each coach gives 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1 votes to a player, and the player with the most votes at the end of the finals will win...

I wonder if they have considered that players from teams in the top 4 that win in the first week will be disadvantaged, as they will have one less game in which to accrue votes..?

Anyway, just occurred to me that it is ill-conceived.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

51 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

The new AFLCA "finals MVP" essentially. It is just like the regular season AFLCA award, where each coach gives 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1 votes to a player, and the player with the most votes at the end of the finals will win...

I wonder if they have considered that players from teams in the top 4 that win in the first week will be disadvantaged, as they will have one less game in which to accrue votes..?

Anyway, just occurred to me that it is ill-conceived.

Not many teams play four finals though

[Mach5 4,767]

6 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Not many teams play four finals though

Yeah, but you might. 

Just seems ill-conceived when you could accrue more votes through being on a team that loses. 

[daisycutter 29,614]

8 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Not many teams play four finals though

didn't dorks play 4 last year? (iirc)

[Mickey 4,684]

To be fair, if a player is in the top 5, 4 games in a row... they are prob ably going to deserve it.

[Mach5 4,767]

8 minutes ago, Mickey said:

To be fair, if a player is in the top 5, 4 games in a row... they are prob ably going to deserve it.

Moreso than a player who is in the top 5 for 3 games in a row, but only plays in wins?

Juat saying, it lends itself to an anomaly that may be publicly perceived as unfair.

[Mickey 4,684]

7 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Moreso than a player who is in the top 5 for 3 games in a row, but only plays in wins?

Juat saying, it lends itself to an anomaly that may be publicly perceived as unfair.

I see what you mean, but yes. At least one of those games is a loss, and to do it over 4 games, while polling more than a player who has only played in wins, and therefore is more likely to poll, would be seriously impressive

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So, if a player is second-best on ground in all four finals, he will accrue 4 x 4 x 2 (four matches x four votes x two coaches) = 32 votes.

If a player is best on ground in three winning matches, he will accrue 3 x 5 x 2 = 30 votes.

I think the 3 x BOG will have been dudded. But he will likely have a Premiership and Norm Smith Medal to console himself with.

[Go the Biff 3,420]

I fail to see the point of having it at all

[Deestroy All 14,266]

Give it to Eddie Betts now.

[Go the Biff 3,420]

Still don't see the point of this but surely it's Liam Picken

[Lord Travis 10,730]

Can't see it listed anywhere who won. I through $10 on Josh Kennedy so hoping he won it. He dominated all series and probably should've got the Norm Smith. Definitely a big game player. He cracked 20 contested possessions in 5 finals now. Most since the stat has been recorded. Next closest player...Sam Mitchell has done it twice.

[Mach5 4,767]

Anyway, I knew there was more to this than just losing matches - the players on teams that finish outside the 8 and go through, have a distinct advantage over teams that finish in the top 4.

So Picken should win, but has he been consistently better than JPK? No, in the game he's played, Kennedy has been better, but Picken will likely shade him.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

14 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Anyway, I knew there was more to this than just losing matches - the players on teams that finish outside the 8 and go through, have a distinct advantage over teams that finish in the top 4.

So Picken should win, but has he been consistently better than JPK? No, in the game he's played, Kennedy has been better, but Picken will likely shade him.

Well, that's an achievement in itself.

[Biffen 12,943]

On 1 October 2016 at 10:42 PM, Lord Travis said:

Can't see it listed anywhere who won. I through $10 on Josh Kennedy so hoping he won it. He dominated all series and probably should've got the Norm Smith. Definitely a big game player. He cracked 20 contested possessions in 5 finals now. Most since the stat has been recorded. Next closest player...Sam Mitchell has done it twice.

Kennedy sooking away like a 5 year old was magic.

Possession count isn't everything either.

He needs to suffer .

[Lord Travis 10,730]

Kennedy won it and won me my money haha

He had a great finals series and is a real big game player. No other player in the last 25 or so years has won as much contested ball in finals as he has. Hopefully in the future guys like Oliver and Viney will be able to have similar impacts during finals for us.