24 minutes ago, olisik said:

I know Hawks have a knack to get deals done but even they can't manage a deal on Lewis with the Dee's with Mahoney so tied up and busy with make or break deals like what pick to give up for Hibbered. 12 months worth of planning has gone into this decision so he must get it right!

Coming to the end of week 1, it is gonna be tight to get this over the line.

Sorry osilik ive been patient. But this sort of repetitive, uninformed tosh wears me down.

You can join my very small number of posters i have on ignore. 

30 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Dodged a bullet. Lewis is nearing the end. Plays well one week, struggles to do anything the next. 

i agree that he mightn't have been ideal for us, but he came second in their B & F? he can't have been that inconsistent..

29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Dodged a bullet. Lewis is nearing the end. Plays well one week, struggles to do anything the next. 

Its not about the playing, how good he is, its about his leadership, his attitude, his bravado, & his 'doing his part'.  He doesn't need to be the star, to help us.

It is in what his in his mind, & his spirit, that is 'what is his value'.

I hate trade period.

For discussion...

Seems there has been a bit of ducks & drakes played with the Tiges & Hawks re Vickery.

The AFL might decide this compo is getting to hard and knock it on the head. What if there is a feeling this will happen before this trade period ends?

How would Freo react to this... could they lose Fyfe next year and get nothing back?

Would they then feel the need to trade him this year?

1 minute ago, rjay said:

For discussion...

Seems there has been a bit of ducks & drakes played with the Tiges & Hawks re Vickery.

The AFL might decide this compo is getting to hard and knock it on the head. What if there is a feeling this will happen before this trade period ends?

How would Freo react to this... could they lose Fyfe next year and get nothing back?

Would they then feel the need to trade him this year?

If Essendon offered say Pick 1 and pick 19 that would have to tempt them if they thought it was 50/50 that he'd go.

I reckon they'll win 10 games or so next year and get maybe pick 8-9 as their first rounder and maybe 9-10 as compo if he leaves.

and the risk compo picks may be removed.

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Is her name Philippa?

Ha ha. Don't think she is big into the meat pies.

44 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Stevens and Clark have both totally knocked it on the head.  Knew there was nothing in it.

Wasn't exactly "nothing" though:

Hawks list manager Graham Wright: "There was an enquiry, but he's a contracted player and a required player."

 

Just now, stuie said:

Wasn't exactly "nothing" though:

Hawks list manager Graham Wright: "There was an enquiry, but he's a contracted player and a required player."

 

What's interesting is i would have thought they'd have said both those things about Mitchell, but now he's off to WCE so that seems to have less meaning if a really good offer/opportunity comes on

I've always thought Wines would leave Port. Whether it happens this off season or not, it just feels inevitable for some reason.

If he did come to Melbourne, how's this for a chain of events:

- Port supporters gloat about Wines over Toumpas

- Port supporters talk up their chances of luring Viney

- Port supporters boast about "de-Melbourning" Toumpas after picking him up

- Viney re-signs with Melbourne

- Toumpas fails and gets delisted (likely)

- Wines leaves Port to join Viney at Melbourne

 

Mm. Tasty.

16 hours ago, stuie said:

Wasn't exactly "nothing" though:

Hawks list manager Graham Wright: "There was an enquiry, but he's a contracted player and a required player."

Hardly sounds a convincing rebuttal - usually that is code for 'we are open to discussions'.

Hawks still need to get the O'Meara deal done and take 3 picks to the draft.  Currently their picks in 2016 are: 23, 36, 54, 72, 90 and 108.  So they give up a batch of 2017 picks and or players...some water to go under the bridge before they land the the Big O!

If not Lewis maybe we can lure someone else away form Hawks?

Edited October 13, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

And here we go....

Hawthorn star Jordan Lewis’ management approached Melbourne in shock trade talks

"Lewis has spoken to the Demons including coach Simon Goodwin. The move has not been ruled out but it appears that Hawthorn is less keen to move Lewis given the upcoming departure of Mitchell. Lewis chose Melbourne himself and is understood to view the club’s list and potential favourably."

 

Any news on the Ollie Wines rumour?  Havent been able to keep up to date

While it is frustrating to get to the end of each trade day and see we have done nothing, if we do something noteworthy, in the next week,  then it is great that we know we don't leak.

That is one sign of a professional administration.

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hardly sounds a convincing rebuttal - usually that is code for 'we are open to discussions'.

Hawks still need to get the O'Meara deal done and take 3 picks to the draft.  Currently their picks in 2016 are: 36, 54, 72, 90 and 108.  So they give up a batch of 2017 picks and or players...some water to go under the bridge before they land the the Big O!

Trade Radio Barrett and Wallace don't seem to be writing this off at all, both saying they're hearing it from a lot of different people so it's a real chance of them backflipping on this one. 

as the article Stuie just posted showed, where there is smoke, there is generally fire in the AFL world, 

my take is i think Lewis wants to come, the Hawks don't want to lose both he and Mitchell at the same time.

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

And here we go....
Hawthorn star Jordan Lewis’ management approached Melbourne in shock trade talks

"Lewis has spoken to the Demons including coach Simon Goodwin. The move has not been ruled out but it appears that Hawthorn is less keen to move Lewis given the upcoming departure of Mitchell. Lewis chose Melbourne himself and is understood to view the club’s list and potential favourably."

A destination club at last!!

I would imagine a number of Hawk players would be feeling less secure knowing the 'encouragement' Clarko gave Mitchell to go to WCE and starting to look elsewhere!

Edited October 13, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

And here we go....

Hawthorn star Jordan Lewis’ management approached Melbourne in shock trade talks

"Lewis has spoken to the Demons including coach Simon Goodwin. The move has not been ruled out but it appears that Hawthorn is less keen to move Lewis given the upcoming departure of Mitchell. Lewis chose Melbourne himself and is understood to view the club’s list and potential favourably."

 

Destination club, oh yeah???

Just now, Abe said:

Trade Radio Barrett and Wallace don't seem to be writing this off at all, both saying they're hearing it from a lot of different people so it's a real chance of them backflipping on this one. 

as the article Stuie just posted showed, where there is smoke, there is generally fire in the AFL world, 

my take is i think Lewis wants to come, the Hawks don't want to lose both he and Mitchell at the same time.

He is the likely Captain in 2017. That would crown his career. One club player. Why leave?

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

Destination club, oh yeah???

I knew it. In that win, he was throwing punches in frustration while we destroyed them in that last quarter. Can't beat em, join em!

 

Edited October 13, 20168 yr by DominatrixTyson

Channel 7 news now running with the Lewis to the Dees trade rumour. 

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He is the likely Captain in 2017. That would crown his career. One club player. Why leave?

If they kept Sam Mitchell and got Jaeger right there's half a chance Lewis would see playing time in the VFL. He knew that and saw a chance to jump before he was pushed. Instead they've moved Sam Mitchell on, but if that's happening they won't let Lewis go.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He is the likely Captain in 2017. That would crown his career. One club player. Why leave?

I can't speak for Jordan, but i suspect it's the security, at the Dees it'd likely be a 4 year deal 2 years as a player and 2 as a coach maybe and what's he got one more at the Hawks with no transition plan in place. 

The Hawks have also been keen to move the older guys to flanks and allow the younger guys to shoulder the middle a lot more, i am not sure Lewis is as equipped as a Hodge or Burgoyne to move to Half back, so he might be looking at VFL time potentially as well which is why i don't see him as a lock for being Captian

Jordan Lewis saw us first hand when we beat them while they were two games clear on top...  this is why every game matters, all 22 of them, even dead rubbers.

Now he is interested in coming to the MFC.....  I was cold on him coming an hour ago for the simple fact of where does he fit in.. but now I want him to come as it sends  a message to the AFL world, we are no joke anymore.

1 hour ago, olisik said:

I know Hawks have a knack to get deals done but even they can't manage a deal on Lewis with the Dee's with Mahoney so tied up and busy with make or break deals like what pick to give up for Hibbered. 12 months worth of planning has gone into this decision so he must get it right!

Coming to the end of week 1, it is gonna be tight to get this over the line.

If it helps to get Hibberd to Melbourne, I'd support Demonland trading Olisik to Bomberblitz.

 

Just now, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

If it helps to get Hibberd to Melbourne, I'd support Demonland trading Olisik to Bomberblitz.

 

Not sure there is a lot of value for the Bombers in that one LDC