1 minute ago, Grimes Times said:

Not sure if you understand but Lewis and Mitchel are different people!!!

 

4 hours ago, Grimes Times said:

Might be different players, but Clarko had the same conversation with the same end effect in mind.

Not that hard to understand

Lol. Righto.

 

1 minute ago, Grimes Times said:

Not sure if you understand but Lewis and Mitchel are different people!!!

and so are Mitchell and Mitchell

If rumours of St Kilda using around pick 50 for Koby Stevens are true, I'd prefer to get him than Hibberd.

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

If rumours of St Kilda using around pick 50 for Koby Stevens are true, I'd prefer to get him than Hibberd.

Not for mine. I reckon Hibberd will be an excellent addition. We have enough Koby like players. We have bugger all players who can reliably hit a target 40 plus metres away. 

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Not for mine. I reckon Hibberd will be an excellent addition. We have enough Koby like players. We have bugger all players who can reliably hit a target 40 plus metres away. 

Agreed, loved terry wallac's trade radio review of melbourne and said the most pressing need we had was a hard line breaking half back and Hibbard was exactly that. Made me feel better about giving up our second rounder for him (hopefully next years though).

9 minutes ago, binman said:

Not for mine. I reckon Hibberd will be an excellent addition. We have enough Koby like players. We have bugger all players who can reliably hit a target 40 plus metres away. 

Totally agree.

Stevens is an inside mid who would be a long way behind Viney, Jones, Tyson & even Oliver by the start of next season one would think.

Hibberd is a gun kick and decent defender who will be playing in a part of the ground where I think we had an average age of about 21/22 all season.

Although this trade period there seem to be a few good players who may be gettable such as Deledio, Prestia, Rockliff, Motlop ,Lewis, Vardy etc etc.. our biggest problem is that we don't have much to deal with.

if we end up with a Hibberd and Lewis I'll be pretty happy.

Looking at that Saints deal, it's actually almost criminal how one-sided it is. Assuming the Hawks slide to the bottom half of the 8 (which is a fair expectation), they basically get pick 10 next year in exchange for pick 10 this year, plus 23 and 36 for free (to use on trades or in the draft).

Just now, SaberFang said:

Looking at that Saints deal, it's actually almost criminal how one-sided it is. Assuming the Hawks slide to the bottom half of the 8 (which is a fair expectation), they basically get pick 10 next year in exchange for pick 10 this year, plus 23 and 36 for free (to use on trades or in the draft).

pure desperation. 

The Saints are showing us and a lot of other teams how to do clever deals. 

Walked Membrey through the PSD
Pick 5 for Carlisle + Gresham was a winner last year. 
Steele for next years 2nd rounder a win.
Pick 10 for a 1st rounder, 23 and 36 a huge win.

Still annoys me we gave up so much to GWS for Frost and Tyson/Salem in previous years....

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

My manager just rang me.

So rude.

Choke your manager might also  be on Demonland 

What do Cale Morton and Sam Mitchell have in common?

Are trades still done over the weekend?

While we are all looking at the Hawks it seems that Goldstein may be on the move:  "A source close to the Kangaroos told WAtoday Goldstein wants out of the Roos because of a personal issue and was seriously considering moving west". http://www.theage.com.au/afl/west-coast-eagles/afl-trade-week-shock-is-roos-ruckman-todd-goldstein-heading-to-west-coast-20161014-gs2gd7.html

Hawks and North have both blindsided their players.

Moral of the story: No surprises-  a club can be ruthless but treat your veterans with respect or else other players will be looking for the exit!

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Considering one is already occurring. 

Is that Vanders?

3 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Looking at that Saints deal, it's actually almost criminal how one-sided it is. Assuming the Hawks slide to the bottom half of the 8 (which is a fair expectation), they basically get pick 10 next year in exchange for pick 10 this year, plus 23 and 36 for free (to use on trades or in the draft).

It's a strange one. I don't know why GC wouldn't accept 23, 36 and next years 1st for O'Meara then add all their 2nd rounders this year and move back in to the draft as they see fit. St Kilda have profited a heap from being a 3rd party. 

I think the Hawks hope to come out of it ahead purely because it won't be a standard pick 10 as it will net them O'Meara who would've cost pick 1 + something at some stage when healthy. They are backing themselves big time to get him right. They got Tom Mitchell for unders as well.

Tom Mitchell, O'Meara for 2 first round picks around the 14 mark + Brad Hill + 36, that's still a win. Even more with Vickery for free.

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The Saints are showing us and a lot of other teams how to do clever deals. 

Walked Membrey through the PSD
Pick 5 for Carlisle + Gresham was a winner last year. 
Steele for next years 2nd rounder a win.
Pick 10 for a 1st rounder, 23 and 36 a huge win.

Still annoys me we gave up so much to GWS for Frost and Tyson/Salem in previous years....

Why? Tyson two top 5 B&F finishes, just about to hit his prime, Frost exciting developing backman and Salem, if we can get his health issues sorted, could be anything

5 minutes ago, DubDee said:

What do Cale Morton and Sam Mitchell have in common?

Went to West Coast for pick 88!

Just now, jnrmac said:

Went to West Coast for pick 88!

Meat tray for Jnrmac

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The Saints are showing us and a lot of other teams how to do clever deals. 

Walked Membrey through the PSD
Pick 5 for Carlisle + Gresham was a winner last year. 
Steele for next years 2nd rounder a win.
Pick 10 for a 1st rounder, 23 and 36 a huge win.

Still annoys me we gave up so much to GWS for Frost and Tyson/Salem in previous years....

I think will have done well with the Tyson/Salem deal but a bit more time on the ground for Salem and we will see.

I also think last year was a masterstroke bringing in Oliver and Weed....but time will tell.

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The Saints are showing us and a lot of other teams how to do clever deals. 

Walked Membrey through the PSD
Pick 5 for Carlisle + Gresham was a winner last year. 
Steele for next years 2nd rounder a win.
Pick 10 for a 1st rounder, 23 and 36 a huge win.

Still annoys me we gave up so much to GWS for Frost and Tyson/Salem in previous years....

Nah, we're the trendsetters for clever trading 

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a strange one. I don't know why GC wouldn't accept 23, 36 and next years 1st for O'Meara then add all their 2nd rounders this year and move back in to the draft as they see fit. St Kilda have profited a heap from being a 3rd party. 

I think the Hawks hope to come out of it ahead purely because it won't be a standard pick 10 as it will net them O'Meara who would've cost pick 1 + something at some stage when healthy. They are backing themselves big time to get him right. They got Tom Mitchell for unders as well.

Tom Mitchell, O'Meara for 2 first round picks around the 14 mark + Brad Hill + 36, that's still a win. Even more with Vickery for free.

Because as they've repeatedly said they want a player not draft picks....

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Why? Tyson two top 5 B&F finishes, just about to hit his prime, Frost exciting developing backman and Salem, if we can get his health issues sorted, could be anything

I like both of them, but we gave up pick 2 and pick 20. That's a massive amount of currency for what became pick 9 and solid player worth about something similar to another pick 9 or so in Tyson. I'm not saying it was a loss. But there's always a chance to have big wins in trades and we haven't had a trade like that for a long time. For us to get something we often have to pay top dollar, which is fine, but to improve quickly we need a win. The saints have pulled off a number of big wins of late.

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a strange one. I don't know why GC wouldn't accept 23, 36 and next years 1st for O'Meara then add all their 2nd rounders this year and move back in to the draft as they see fit. St Kilda have profited a heap from being a 3rd party. 

I think the Hawks hope to come out of it ahead purely because it won't be a standard pick 10 as it will net them O'Meara who would've cost pick 1 + something at some stage when healthy. They are backing themselves big time to get him right. They got Tom Mitchell for unders as well.

Tom Mitchell, O'Meara for 2 first round picks around the 14 mark + Brad Hill + 36, that's still a win. Even more with Vickery for free.

You get what you pay for...

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I like both of them, but we gave up pick 2 and pick 20. That's a massive amount of currency for what became pick 9 and solid player worth about something similar to another pick 9 or so in Tyson. I'm not saying it was a loss. But there's always a chance to have big wins in trades and we haven't had a trade like that for a long time. For us to get something we often have to pay top dollar, which is fine, but to improve quickly we need a win. The saints have pulled off a number of big wins of late.

Didn't the Frost deal also include the pics that git us ANB, and O Mac?