FA & Trade Whispers

[Redleg 40,304]

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

Ha - thanks Jumbo. It's just clicked what the No T$ no B$ thread means (often wondered, but got started on that thread obviously 3 years too late)

But you are very welcome to post there.

[SaberFang 7,151]

All I'll say is: I'll believe it when I see it.

This is the same as last year's Luke Parker rumour.

Or the Dangerfield/Kennedy rumours the year before.

None eventuated.

[HulkHogan 69]

Just now, SaberFang said:

All I'll say is: I'll believe it when I see it.

This is the same as last year's Luke Parker rumour.

Or the Dangerfield/Kennedy rumours the year before.

None eventuated.

I feel these are stronger imo

[HulkHogan 69]

1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said:

I just was Facebook messaging the Facebook page - Zanotti Files. He posted a rumour and was very adamant that his sources were correct in saying Rockliff will be a demon. Read what you like from it..

Posted the pics on Might Dees fb group but the screenshots I took are too big to upload so I'll just copy the convo in here 

Me: Hey Zanotti. What are your thoughts on the Rockliff to Melbourne situation?

Zanotti: From our source it's almost done. Lions paying portion of his salary 
The only stumbling block will be if a team swoops in late to pay his full salary and he agrees to go.

Me:  Ok. Mark Robinson tweeted earlier that he hadn't heard anything. The original rumour came from DemonLand (Melb forum site), and the poster claimed it had come out of the mouth of his uncle who is apparently very close with David Noble, who supposedly said it himself. If you don't mind me asking, who are your sources?

Zanotti: Can't reveal exactly who but it comes from inside Melbourne's 4 walls.

Me: If you had to call it now, do you reckon it'll happen 

he then forwarded me a message that supposedly was from his sources

Zanotti: Just don't release the info until maybe tomorrow morning? Because although Lewis is 100%, Rocky is about 99.99%. I think for the pages sake, wait until tomorrow when rumours start flying around.
But in the end, you're call!

Me: when did you receive the info?

Zanotti: today. Getting an update tomorrow 

Me: how have you had access to these sources?

Zanotti: I'm just someone that luckily has stumbled across some people in the right places.

I then went on about how it could be big for him if he's right, but backlash if he's wrong. He then said - 

Zanotti: 

Haha.. we get the info and pass it on.

Had Mitchell and Lewis spot on.

Considering the source we have we'll at least get an explanation if it falls over..

Comes with the territory though!

 

take what you want from it guys...

What was in the message from the source?

 

[Redleg 40,304]

Interestingly, no mention on Sunday Trade Wrap Up, on the AFL site, of us, since an 8.00am article, about us offering Lewis a 3 year contract.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

4 minutes ago, HulkHogan said:

What was in the message from the source?

 

It's in the post.... Obviously his source has recommended he hold off releasing it until rumours start swirling tomorrow...

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

If Trade Week has taught me one thing.....

It's....

There is a reason I am a paid member of Demonland and do not frequent the depths of BF 

What a cesspool.... Off to have a shower...

[Redleg 40,304]

Isn't it funny, some are delirious and at this stage nothing has happened.

[HulkHogan 69]

6 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

It's in the post.... Obviously his source has recommended he hold off releasing it until rumours start swirling tomorrow...

In the post? DemonLad said he forwarded a message from the source however never told us what he said 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

3 minutes ago, HulkHogan said:

In the post? DemonLad said he forwarded a message from the source however never told us what he said 

he then forwarded me a message that supposedly was from his sources

Zanotti: I read it as this IS the message from his source, telling him not to release earlier for his FB pages sake ---> Just don't release the info until maybe tomorrow morning? Because although Lewis is 100%, Rocky is about 99.99%. I think for the pages sake, wait until tomorrow when rumours start flying around.
But in the end, you're call!

 

I could be wrong though.... Not uncommon 

Edited October 16, 2016 by KrazyJay

[DemonLad5 1,642]

3 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

he then forwarded me a message that supposedly was from his sources

Zanotti: I read it as this IS the message from his source, telling him not to release earlier for his FB pages sake ---> Just don't release the info until maybe tomorrow morning? Because although Lewis is 100%, Rocky is about 99.99%. I think for the pages sake, wait until tomorrow when rumours start flying around.
But in the end, you're call!

 

I could be wrong though.... Not uncommon 

Yep apparently that is what Zanotti was sent by his sources regarding Rocky.

[kurtneverdied 204]

18 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

Yep apparently that is what Zanotti was sent by his sources regarding Rocky.

Now that's 2 people convinced he's coming. Fingers crossed it's all true. Can't wait for tomorrow!

Edited October 16, 2016 by kurtneverdied

[Ted Lasso 18,862]

40 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

All I'll say is: I'll believe it when I see it.

This is the same as last year's Luke Parker rumour.

Or the Dangerfield/Kennedy rumours the year before.

None eventuated.

There is no doubt that's the best approach, what i will add though is that Demonland has a funny way of treating a non trade as confirmation of an unreliable source, this is not the case in all instances, the club can be very interested in a player, and even have a level of confidence in a trade being done and have an unforseen variable crop up, Dion Prestia is a great example of this.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

Just wondering how people would react if out of the 3 names we keep talking (Lewis, Rockliff & Hibberd)

That we got none of them and went in with our current draft picks...

I am not sure if DL is ready for such a thing....

[ILLDieADemon 804]

When I heard the breaking news of Lewis On Trade radio I came straight to this page and the rumour had already been talked about for 5 hours by then.

Rumours seem to start here first and most of the time they end up being true. 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

1 minute ago, ILLDieADemon said:

When I heard the breaking news of Lewis On Trade radio I came straight to this page and the rumour had already been talked about for 5 hours by then.

Rumours seem to start here first and most of the time they end up being true. 

One of the loosest things I have ever read 

Edited October 16, 2016 by KrazyJay

[Tram 74 80]

On 17/09/2016 at 5:57 PM, Tram 74 said:

Players changing clubs tend to fall into two categories, those chasing a premiership and those chasing money.  I may be proven wrong but I venture that those looking for a flag are far better performed than those counting their cash. We should be careful about paying over the market for players and wait for the one's looking for success to find us or we find them.

This was my first post and I promise I will never do this again. Whilst I admit it doesn't tick every box it does sound a lot like Lewis

[Beetle 4,542]

3 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

Just wondering how people would react if out of the 3 names we keep talking (Lewis, Rockliff & Hibberd)

That we got none of them and went in with our current draft picks...

I am not sure if DL is ready for such a thing....

 

[Adam The God 29,563]

2 minutes ago, Tram 74 said:

This was my first post and I promise I will never do this again. Whilst I admit it doesn't tick every box it does sound a lot like Lewis

You mean the guy that supposedly turned down more money at the Suns to play for less than he was getting at Hawthorn? His name is Jordan Lewis.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

2 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

One of the looser things I have ever read 

I've been on this site for a while now and most of the time I find out about football events on here before they ends up being reported.

[Tram 74 80]

8 minutes ago, A F said:

You mean the guy that supposedly turned down more money at the Suns to play for less than he was getting at Hawthorn? His name is Jordan Lewis.

And he found us first by all reports.

[Akum 2,660]

30 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

Just wondering how people would react if out of the 3 names we keep talking (Lewis, Rockliff & Hibberd)

That we got none of them and went in with our current draft picks...

I am not sure if DL is ready for such a thing....

Interesting point.

If we're about getting "exactly what we need", none of them fit the bill. Though all of them would add something, it's not like we couldn't get by without them.

Hibberd fits the "what we need" space best, but even he'd be competing with a growing list of promising HBFs who are potential distributors. While Hibberd's probably the best / toughest / most experienced / best kick of them all, he's not a massive gain on the likes of Salem, Hunt, Wagner, Jetta if any of them steps up another level.

Perhaps this reflects where the team is at - we don't have massive gaps to fill any more, we just need fine-tuning in certain areas, but that might come anyway with further improvement in any of a number of current players. Then again, it might not.

Edited October 16, 2016 by Akum
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[Deestroy All 14,262]

34 minutes ago, KrazyJay said:

Just wondering how people would react if out of the 3 names we keep talking (Lewis, Rockliff & Hibberd)

That we got none of them and went in with our current draft picks...

I am not sure if DL is ready for such a thing....

The ignore Olisik button will break the internet.

[jnrmac 19,913]

21 minutes ago, Akum said:

Interesting point.

If we're about getting "exactly what we need", none of them fit the bill. Though all of them would add something, it's not like we couldn't get by without them.

Hibberd fits the "what we need" space best, but even he'd be competing with a growing list of promising HBFs who are potential distributors. While Hibberd's probably the best / toughest / most experienced / best kick of them all, he's not a massive gain on the likes of Salem, Hunt, Wagner, Jetta if any of them steps up another level.

Perhaps this reflects where the team is at - we don't have massive gaps to fill any more, we just need fine-tuning in certain areas, but that might come anyway with further improvement in any of a number of current players. Then again, it might not.

Sorry but you are kidding yourself. You're saying Hibberd is no better )or massive gain) than Wagner? Please. He is also certainly better than what Salem has shown. Yes, you put a caveat on it by saying 'if they step up to another level' but the statement IMO is plain wrong. He would be a very solid get for us and an upgrade on what we have.

The second part I think you are over rating our list massively. We aren't that good and we have a number of very average players.

 

Edited October 16, 2016 by jnrmac

[Adam The God 29,563]

25 minutes ago, Akum said:

Interesting point.

If we're about getting "exactly what we need", none of them fit the bill. Though all of them would add something, it's not like we couldn't get by without them.

Hibberd fits the "what we need" space best, but even he'd be competing with a growing list of promising HBFs who are potential distributors. While Hibberd's probably the best / toughest / most experienced / best kick of them all, he's not a massive gain on the likes of Salem, Hunt, Wagner, Jetta if any of them steps up another level.

Perhaps this reflects where the team is at - we don't have massive gaps to fill any more, we just need fine-tuning in certain areas, but that might come anyway with further improvement in any of a number of current players. Then again, it might not.

To me, the possible recruitment of any of these guys would signal we're keen to fast track our success. Go for A graders and go for experience. It's a bold, but still thought out strategy.

We would love to have two A graders and an elite kicking B grader into our squad. As of 2016, we have Gawn as our only A grader, Jones on the cusp and a bunch of the young guys like Viney and Tyson ready to take the step into that next bracket too.

So from the end of 2016, where we have one A grader, all of a sudden with natural improvement, 2017 could see us have six A graders in Viney, Tyson, Lewis, Rockliff, Gawn and even Jones with that experience supporting him. And if Jetta can rise once more, he'll be an A grader for mine too.

But without the injection of Hibberd's experience and kicking skills in our back six; without the experience, decision-making, disposal and leadership of Lewis in our midfield; as well as Rockliff's experience, ball-winning ability and goal-kicking ability in our midfield and forwardline, we don't make the same level of progress. These guys will take the pressure of all those already at the club and allow them to rise even further.

If it comes to fruition, I think it will have been an inspired recruiting period, along with whoever Taylor manages to snare in the national draft - and all of this from a starting position of pick 26.

We're a serious football club off the field these days and I love it. It won't be long before we're a serious club onfield too. Hopefully starting next year.

Edited October 16, 2016 by A F