watchtheeyes 1,429 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I'm gonna try and hold my excitement until someone with some credibility come out and says its being discussed. So far all we have is dear old Demonland spawn 7 pages of speculation off very little more than a single unsubstantiated sentence. I love this time of year.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 its that "anything can happen " time of year
Akum 2,660 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Hartlett to Demons Pick 24 GCFC to Demons Pick 6 MFC to Suns Howe to Suns Dixon to Port Adelaide Just wanted to bump this from a few pages back for those who might have missed it, because it's such a good solid proposal. It's a genuine win-win-win - all 3 clubs get what they want, while giving up something that they are either gonna lose anyway (Dixon, Howe) or can live without in order to get a bigger prize (Hartlett, and to some degree Howe). * We get Hartlett & ND24 and lose Howe & ND6. * Port get Dixon & lose Hartlett. * GCS get Howe & ND6 and lose Dixon & ND24. And I'm assuming that as Prestia is said to be "seeing out his contract", we'll pick him up next year not this year.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Just wanted to bump this from a few pages back for those who might have missed it, because it's such a good solid proposal. It's a genuine win-win-win - all 3 clubs get what they want, while giving up something that they are either gonna lose anyway (Dixon, Howe) or can live without in order to get a bigger prize (Hartlett, and to some degree Howe). * We get Hartlett & ND24 and lose Howe & ND6. * Port get Dixon & lose Hartlett. * GCS get Howe & ND6 and lose Dixon & ND24. And I'm assuming that as Prestia is said to be "seeing out his contract", we'll pick him up next year not this year. Im not 100% au fait with the values ..but the dynamics of the merry- go-round seem to work but for me its too dear A pick of around 1-12 ought to get Hartlett to us... this deal costs us 6 and Howe for HH and 24...thats far too much imho
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Deal is perfect. Everyone wins. Effectively we give #6 for Hartlett. We get pick 24 for Howe. That's fair currency. Hartlett walks in as a Top 5 player to MFC ... and remember Howe's 2015 was average at best. An early 2nd rounder is fair.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Deal is perfect. Everyone wins. Effectively we give #6 for Hartlett. We get pick 24 for Howe. That's fair currency. Hartlett walks in as a Top 5 player to MFC ... and remember Howe's 2015 was average at best. An early 2nd rounder is fair. I prefer my merry go round SONS...in so far as we'd end up with potentially 2 very good mids..albeit no picks . I dont mind that Pick 24 ?? whats that worth in this draft ? Not a lot Id say
Akum 2,660 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Im not 100% au fait with the values ..but the dynamics of the merry- go-round seem to work but for me its too dear A pick of around 1-12 ought to get Hartlett to us... this deal costs us 6 and Howe for HH and 24...thats far too much imho I see your point, they're definitely not bargains. But I think they're still pretty solid as individual trades - HH for 6 & then 24 for Howe do pinch a bit. If we could then get, say, Hrovat (not Melksham) for 24, we've given our midfield a major boost for the next few years.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I see your point, they're definitely not bargains. But I think they're still pretty solid as individual trades - HH for 6 & then 24 for Howe do pinch a bit. If we could then get, say, Hrovat (not Melksham) for 24, we've given our midfield a major boost for the next few years. please... I like the idea within SONS trade...much merit.. just for me , possibly a price either too high..or there might be the idea/opportunity that a side trade goes wanting . Otherwise theryre all reasonable ideas I should think. Not all dis-similar in a way..maybe details Our illustroius FD have proven rather eot of late in pulling rabbits out of hats so Im intrigued (as we all are I supsect ) as to what magic wil lbe conjured this time around
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I thought this from Generation Dee on the other thread might bear repeating here , hope not being too presumptive http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38451-delistingstrades-at-end-of-the-season/?p=1161574 "G Sorry for the typoday all. This is a very drunken message from bali. But I will tell you what I heard tonight. Ollie wines had his heart set on coming to Melbourne. Todd viney rang him 2 days our from the draft to tell him we were not going to pick him. Basically was told we wanted to pick him but we're not sure if we could let Toumpas slide. Ollie was gutted at the time amd for 18 months after. He won't leave port for anyone now as in his words it turned out for the best for him. I can not answer if it was Todd or neeld who said let him slide, my understanding is it was neeld as Todd called Ollie to tell him prior to the draft. The rumour out of port adelaide is they do not expect Hamish hartlett to play there in 2016. He didn't turn up for the footy trip, apparently we offered a huge deal amd if it isn't us, it is sydney. Ollie knows Jimmy Toumpas from underage level and he said Jimmy will be a seasoned afl player. As much as he initially hated not being picked by us, he understands that politics played there part, but I gathered that he won't leave port adelaide period. To.orrow the melbourne players arrive, Sorry for typo. I'm drunk. But that's all I can give for now "
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Posted September 21, 2015 Just out of interest, apart from the comments attributed to Caro and those of an inebriated Generation Dee, has there been any confirmation from elsewhere that Port Adelaide is putting Hartlett up for trade bait?
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Just out of interest, apart from the comments attributed to Caro and those of an inebriated Generation Dee, has there been any confirmation from elsewhere that Port Adelaide is putting Hartlett up for trade bait? I was going to say the same thing WJ. There has been nothing at all outside of Caro to suggest there is any legs to this rumour. I hope there is, but there isn't too much to it at the moment.
jumbo returns 6,744 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I thought this from Generation Dee on the other thread might bear repeating here , hope not being too presumptive http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38451-delistingstrades-at-end-of-the-season/?p=1161574 "G Sorry for the typoday all. This is a very drunken message from bali. But I will tell you what I heard tonight. Ollie wines had his heart set on coming to Melbourne. Todd viney rang him 2 days our from the draft to tell him we were not going to pick him. Basically was told we wanted to pick him but we're not sure if we could let Toumpas slide. Ollie was gutted at the time amd for 18 months after. He won't leave port for anyone now as in his words it turned out for the best for him. I can not answer if it was Todd or neeld who said let him slide, my understanding is it was neeld as Todd called Ollie to tell him prior to the draft. The rumour out of port adelaide is they do not expect Hamish hartlett to play there in 2016. He didn't turn up for the footy trip, apparently we offered a huge deal amd if it isn't us, it is sydney. Ollie knows Jimmy Toumpas from underage level and he said Jimmy will be a seasoned afl player. As much as he initially hated not being picked by us, he understands that politics played there part, but I gathered that he won't leave port adelaide period. To.orrow the melbourne players arrive, Sorry for typo. I'm drunk. But that's all I can give for now " Wow! Good effort for someone who's so pizzed!
daisycutter 30,004 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Wow! Good effort for someone who's so pizzed! magic mushrooms?
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 People who consume mushrooms in bali wake up three days later naked in a cold cell being forced to pay a bribe. Chang the bribe to a contract and maybe we could shout Danger a flight to Bali?
Cards13 9,117 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I'm gonna try and hold my excitement until someone with some credibility come out and says its being discussed. So far all we have is dear old Demonland spawn 7 pages of speculation off very little more than a single unsubstantiated sentence. I love this time of year. This time of year?! It's still finals ffs hahahha.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Just out of interest, apart from the comments attributed to Caro and those of an inebriated Generation Dee, has there been any confirmation from elsewhere that Port Adelaide is putting Hartlett up for trade bait? Possibly not. My friends in Adelaide are all but Crows supporters..Only Port devotee is only good for deliberations on Para v Hoffmans v .... Still that said , and given the Silly season proper hasn't been heralded in just yet there are jungle drums banging away. They go more to the idea of who WON'T be shifted from PA... leaves us mortals to wonder...that's all really
grazman 7,539 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Just out of interest, apart from the comments attributed to Caro and those of an inebriated Generation Dee, has there been any confirmation from elsewhere that Port Adelaide is putting Hartlett up for trade bait? Take it for what it's worth, but a PA supporter on BF thinks that Caro's mail on things happening at Alberton are pretty much on the money.
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Take it for what it's worth, but a PA supporter on BF thinks that Caro's mail on things happening at Alberton are pretty much on the money. She is generally on the money with the rumours she puts out there. I'm interested to see if she elaborates on it on Footy Classified tonight.
Shmity29 61 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 @3AWSportsToday: Scoop McClure: 'Hamish Hartlett could be the player squeezed out of Port Adelaide for Charlie Dixon. Adel and Melb have made inquires'
Ryan Dee 140 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Negativity Negativity Negativity Bernie Vince ,Jeff Garlett, Lumumba and Dawes came to Melbourne so why not? We have a stable coaching structure and a great bunch of young kids led by guys by Hogan and Brayshaw. We also have plenty of money. You are a perfect example of the type of poster on here that struggle to READ and interpret at a basic level. Bernie Vince (2013), Garlett, Lumumba and Dawes have nothing to do with the sort of player my entire post was talking about. I don't even know why I bother on here anymore. You basically read my post and then decided to talk about a complete set of different players. Also, how on earth is it negativity? It is pure fact. Look where the big players go in recent history. We will have to pay up big. I am hopeful as hell, but be realistic people.
DeeZee 7,496 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 It's negativity because you were saying that no one wants to come to Melbourne . What if we land someone in this period who wants to come to Melbourne, and is a contracted player? You are a perfect example of a hopeless supporter who revels in shooting those with a little hope of what may come for their beloved team down in flames and sink the boots in. I'm sorry but I'm not the type to get pleasure from that sort of behaviour and would rather talk up the team I love.
Demon Disciple 12,530 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 @3AWSportsToday: Scoop McClure: 'Hamish Hartlett could be the player squeezed out of Port Adelaide for Charlie Dixon. Adel and Melb have made inquires' Well if Danger leaves for the Cats, the Crows will have ample space in the cap (like us), but will only be a short trip down the road (unlike us).
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Danger, Harlett, Prestia, O'Meara. Please god let us get one!
mo64 5,910 Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 Well if Danger leaves for the Cats, the Crows will have ample space in the cap (like us), but will only be a short trip down the road (unlike us). Not necessarily. If the Crows match Geelong's offer as expected, there could be a long drawn out trade negotiation, and the Crows would have to factor in Danger's salary until the trade is done. Can't see how they could sign Hartlett until the Danger trade is completed.
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