Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 4 hours ago, jumbo returns said: HL is a required player and will have a great year in 2017. The biggest myth about Lumumba is that he is quick. Over his first five metres he's not much quicker than Trengove, if you don't have quick acceleration then you're not quick. Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 I did a bit of checking on HL's contract and I think it is a 3 year deal (ie OOC 2017) with an 'optional' year for 2018. I'm guessing this is like the Cloke, Bartell contracts where the 'optional' year is based on certain triggers. Unless, H retires (and there is no indication of that) I can't see him being delisted. Quote
Mazer Rackham 14,972 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 55 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said: The biggest myth about Lumumba is that he is quick. Over his first five metres he's not much quicker than Trengove, if you don't have quick acceleration then you're not quick. How would we know? He always seems to find a pack less than 5 metres away and runs into it. 11 Quote
jackaub 1,402 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 Love your sense of humour Fidge But so right! Quote
Redleg 42,154 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 6 hours ago, jumbo returns said: HL is a required player and will have a great year in 2017. I was hoping for a good HL year in 2015 and 2016. 1 Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Redleg said: I was hoping for a good HL year in 2015 and 2016. He got concussed. What we know about concussion now constitutes as a serious injury, not to mention the psychological impact. I reckon he'll be back and do very, very well. Quote
Redleg 42,154 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, jumbo returns said: He got concussed. What we know about concussion now constitutes as a serious injury, not to mention the psychological impact. I reckon he'll be back and do very, very well. Don't think he was concussed in 2015. Just played terrible football in the main season, after some good games in the NAB Cup. 4 Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Abe said: I suspect in a lot of cases the decisions have been made and the players possibly already know, or have a strong indication of which way it'll go. I was wondering yesterday after Plapps statement on the Mfc website thanking everyone during the week, IF Roosy told them, all who are going, before he finished his last week. I thought that Plapp statement, sounded to me like bad timing, Re the VFL Grand Final. The boys seemed to come out flat after half time, after banging in earlier. Were they distracted, and did they take their minds eye off the ball. dis appointed. Quote
Vineytime 855 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 The players find out this week if they will stay or go. Quote
Redleg 42,154 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, DV8 said: I was wondering yesterday after Plapps statement on the Mfc website thanking everyone during the week, IF Roosy told them, all who are going, before he finished his last week. I thought that Plapp statement, sounded to me like bad timing, Re the VFL Grand Final. The boys seemed to come out flat after half time, after banging in earlier. Were they distracted, and did they take their minds eye off the ball. dis appointed. It wouldn't be Roosy doing the telling and it is highly unlikely it would be done while a team had a live chance. Will happen in the coming days. 3 Quote
Lord Ivanhoe 311 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, DV8 said: I was wondering yesterday after Plapps statement on the Mfc website thanking everyone during the week, IF Roosy told them, all who are going, before he finished his last week. I thought that Plapp statement, sounded to me like bad timing, Re the VFL Grand Final. The boys seemed to come out flat after half time, after banging in earlier. Were they distracted, and did they take their minds eye off the ball. dis appointed. Agree DV8. There was something not quite right with both the timing and wording of Plapp's statement( It was more suited to after the VFL GF). Does Goodwin want someone else coaching Casey? Edited September 26, 2016 by Lord Ivanhoe 1 Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, DV8 said: I was wondering yesterday after Plapps statement on the Mfc website thanking everyone during the week, IF Roosy told them, all who are going, before he finished his last week. I thought that Plapp statement, sounded to me like bad timing, Re the VFL Grand Final. The boys seemed to come out flat after half time, after banging in earlier. Were they distracted, and did they take their minds eye off the ball. dis appointed. So you're suggesting that they had a crack till half time, remembered that they had been told they were being delisted, and came out flat after half time? What sort of logic is that? 8 Quote
bing181 9,473 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Redleg said: Don't think he was concussed in 2015. Just played terrible football in the main season, after some good games in the NAB Cup. The fact that he had operations in both ankles at the end of 2015 would suggest that he was dealing with some kind of injury issue throughout 2015. Thought he had a couple of really solid games after he came back in - before the concussions etc. etc. 1 Quote
bing181 9,473 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said: What sort of logic is that? Demonland logic. 5 Quote
jumbo returns 6,745 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Redleg said: Don't think he was concussed in 2015. Just played terrible football in the main season, after some good games in the NAB Cup. 2015 was a terrible year for the whole club. He tried his guts out and will be an important player in 2017. Quote
thesleepinggiant 160 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 I think a lot of people will be surprised with trades/delisting this year. I wouldn't be surprised with Grimes - Most likely traded if possible (out of respect) or Delisted. Terlich - Delisted Michie - Delisted Dawes - 1 yr deal (as emergency) with deal in place with emphasis on coaching. Pedersen - 1 or 2 yr deal Anb - Cant believe ppl talk about trading this little gem. I personally think he is not playing in his preferred position that suits his attributes. Nobody can deny he cant get the footy. 25-30 touches each vfl game which to me says he can get it, knows where to hunt it so he should be forward pocket which for all we know he will be as the coaching instructions have been to play him midfield to fir certain reasons unknown to us. Will not be traded. Newton - Can play but odds on to be delisted or traded Matt Jones - Traded or delisted King - deliste Dunn/Garland - 1 will be traded * almost back to a normal footy club where its obvious 4 each year get turfed. Note though we also have 2 decent players in b category in maynard and Smith most have forgotten we have which is like 2 extra picks next year Thoughts? 3 Quote
junk 342 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Posted September 26, 2016 With so many potential candidates to get rid of, I can't see us making the eight next year due to no 1st round pick (keep or trade ) and we lack key backup players.Really we need a miracle. to Moonshadow IDGARA on your cryptic comment. Quote
leehow 303 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, ENYAW said: With so many potential candidates to get rid of, I can't see us making the eight next year due to no 1st round pick (keep or trade ) and we lack key backup players.Really we need a miracle. to Moonshadow IDGARA on your cryptic comment. Do you honestly believe us making the eight hinges on whether or not we have 1st round pick? 1 Quote
junk 342 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Posted September 26, 2016 Leehow,if we had a 1st round pick we could trade it for more later picks,keep it or pick up someone of value and since we don't seem to have many reserve players to step up to senior level we will struggle next year. We may very well make the eight next year and would be good. Where do you expect us to finish next year? Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 Michie (Rookie), Max King (rookie), Terlich, Newton, Matt Jones, Pedersen, Dawes = delist Grimes = walk as free agent Dunn, Garland = trade for what we can get Hogan traded in worst case scenario and Nibbler if we get offered something good for him Wagner upgraded White to get a 3rd year on rookie list & Smith a 2nd year So that gives us 7 senior list vacancies (if Hogan & Nibbler stay) & 3 rookie list spots. Would allow us to trade in Hibberd and possibly one more experienced player, 4 picks at the draft and maybe a DFA. Or someone like Matt Jones may in fact get a 1 year extension. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 agree... ANB will be a player. Give him another 12 months development. 1 Quote
Salems Lot 2,692 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) On 25/09/2016 at 5:16 PM, spirit of norm smith said: agree... Gone - Dawes Terlich M.Jones Newton Grimes Garland (trade) Spencer (trade) Michie(r) Max King (r) ins ... Hibberd & Melksham... more pace & heart. Melksham already in Edited September 26, 2016 by Salems Lot Quote
Lil_red_fire_engine 11,383 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) I saw enough of ANB on the weekend to validate his decision making and execution by foot are not up to it. In contract but trade if opportunity to improve position is there. Edited September 26, 2016 by big_red_fire_engine 9 Quote
Akum 2,660 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 20 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said: I saw enough of ANB on the weekend to validate his decision making and execution by foot are not up to it. In contract but trade if opportunity to improve position is there. An atypical game for ANB. He was excellent in the Qual final when we smashed them by 12 goals, and the Dogs picked him out as the one to be paid special attention. And they picked right - once they stopped him, we found it really difficult to move the ball forward and get any flow going, despite Clarrie's great clearance game. He was wearing Jed Adcock like an extra shirt for much of the game. Who tags anybody in the VFL?? He's prob never been tagged in his life before. The Dogs realised far better than we did how much the Scorps' running game - which carved them up in the Qual final - and that he was the key to it, and they did a brilliant job of stopping him. 3 Quote
Dr John Dee 1,057 Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 On 9/25/2016 at 11:21 PM, Moonshadow said: I think you should change your name to TSIMISSEP Shouldn't that belong to Old Dee, Moonie, since he's turned himself around this year? 1 Quote
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