29 minutes ago, deestar said:

100% .... Our leadership is so lacking and even after an OK season I have always said it ..... Word is it is very known within the club ..... Lack of 2 way running and a touch of the sulks.

I thought vanders had a crack at lifting people today. Tried and was physical ... We really need another tall to ruck in the 22 ... Whenever Gawn is soundly beaten we have bad days. 

Agree with the leadership, but Vanders is ordinary and if we're serious, won't be there in 3 years time.

7 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Jones isn't in the class of any of those you mentioned.

All of the Success stories you mention would be selling vinyl cladding by now if they were in the same boat.

25 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Probably sounds like a load of [censored] but I spoke with a father of a current player during the week who said the club and players were happy with ten wins and didn't care about making finals this year and were all about preparing for next season. Not sure if I buy into this but apparently it's what the player told his old man. I think the cue has been in the rack for the last couple of weeks.

I want my membership $$ back for the last 2 weeks then players. 

27 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Probably sounds like a load of [censored] but I spoke with a father of a current player during the week who said the club and players were happy with ten wins and didn't care about making finals this year and were all about preparing for next season. Not sure if I buy into this but apparently it's what the player told his old man. I think the cue has been in the rack for the last couple of weeks.

If true, it doesn't matter because that attitude is likely to be unchanged next season

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Uh well, like we always say, there's always next season. 

There is always trade season, GNFs "best season".

31 minutes ago, Biffen said:

I'm sure your old man has had worse disappointments Steve.

Just spoke to him and he said he walked out at 3/4 time and read the paper in the car.

As an aside, if the Saints beat Bris by more than a few goals, Essendrug will not get pick 1 in the draft

That player's dad story sounds very unlikely to be true.

In my mind, there's no guarantees of improvement next season. We've got a few players to be excited about, but do we have an entire side tuned in? We've reached a pretty good point, but I think we could go either way from here

2013 Losses

Round	Opposition	For	Against	Margin	Ground
Round 2	Essendon	5.6 (36)	28.16 (184)	148	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 18	North Melbourne	4.4 (28)	22.18 (150)	122	Etihad Stadium
Round 10	Hawthorn	6.12 (48)	21.17 (143)	95	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 21	Fremantle	5.8 (38)	20.13 (133)	95	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 3	West Coast	13.5 (83)	27.15 (177)	94	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 9	Fremantle	6.4 (40)	19.16 (130)	90	Patersons Stadium
Round 11	Collingwood	5.9 (39)	17.20 (122)	83	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 1	Port Adelaide	8.6 (54)	19.19 (133)	79	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 16	Geelong	4.6 (30)	13.20 (98)	68	Simonds Stadium
Round 22	Adelaide	7.10 (52)	18.12 (120)	68	AAMI Stadium
Round 6	Carlton	8.12 (60)	18.13 (121)	61	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 7	Gold Coast	7.12 (54)	16.18 (114)	60	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 19	GWS Giants	12.15 (87)	19.10 (124)	37	Skoda Stadium
Round 13	St Kilda	10.9 (69)	16.8 (104)	35	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 8	Richmond	11.6 (72)	15.16 (106)	34	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 15	Sydney	13.7 (85)	16.20 (116)	31	Melbourne Cricket Ground
Round 5	Brisbane Lions	14.10 (94)	17.20 (122)	28	Gabba
Round 23	Western Bulldogs	13.9 (87)	16.11 (107)	20	Etihad Stadium
Round 17	Brisbane Lions	11.9 (75)	13.16 (94)	19	TIO Stadium
Round 20	Gold Coast	10.17 (77)	13.12 (90)	13	Metricon Stadium

12 minutes ago, von said:

I can't see us finishing above 16th next year based on this performance. Seeing guys like hogan, petracca, brayshaw, hunt, stretch, frost, o Mac, Salem, weideman coming out and dishing up this after a good season or two experience against a bunch of experienced premiership winning has beens just makes me wonder. I refuse to acknowledge that it takes seasons to be fully ready physically and mentally to compete consistently at this level. I refuse to acknowledge that looking at other teams trajectories they have been through similar situations. I refuse to acknowledge that hogan is quite possibly well and truly on track to fulfill his potential when also compared to similar types. I just refuse to have any perspective at all because then who would I take out all my own pain and angst out on. My wife! I refuse to acknowledge where we've come from and that the large majority of those who have carried us at times could not in any reasonable way be asked to do it consistently. Perspective is for hippies and meditating monks. I refuse to notice where we are and where Geelong are in context of the season and how today needed to go. Roos is not welcome at any Melbourne function for the next 50 years. Jackson can go eat a bag of manure then regurgitate it into goodwins useless mouth. The consistent improvement in all aspects of our club. Literally every aspect of our club has been washed away today and never to be seen again until round one when we have a win and we are premiership favourites. I'm going to go and head butt a monk now.

I like it when the players parents and family come here to post and share their views.

42 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Probably sounds like a load of [censored] but I spoke with a father of a current player during the week who said the club and players were happy with ten wins and didn't care about making finals this year and were all about preparing for next season. Not sure if I buy into this but apparently it's what the player told his old man. I think the cue has been in the rack for the last couple of weeks.

''All about preparing for next year.''

Yeh right, players just couldn't be bothered postponing their holiday plans. 

 

 

Edited August 27, 20168 yr by Moneider96

30 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Because we are playing so many inexperienced players today's loss was to be expected. 

Mills 

Heeney

Hewett

Aliir

Papley

Marsh

Naismith

X Richards

 

 

Nankervis.

I haven't seen it mentioned, but one of the more interesting features on a bleak day was Hogan's run up for goal near the end.   It looked almost normal.  I love Hogan despite his indifferent year.  Gee he gets marked hard for a young player. 

Hopefully he takes Petracca to the goal-kicking range.  His set shots are unfathomable for a quality young player. 

2 minutes ago, faultydet said:

I like it when the players parents and family come here to post and share their views.

Thank you. It's important I think to understand the emotional impact that places like this have on the boys and those close to them when they turn against their beloved team.

23 minutes ago, Je Roos Salem said:

Positives today were Brayshaw and Salem. Shame Petracca can't string a full game together though

Salem was so creative today, it's a pity some of his teammates weren't able to take advantage of his clean possession.

And to think he's the first one some of the posters on here want to trade, there are a few I'd put in front of him. 

Judging by the fact we haven't heard from picket on here, unless I've missed it, he must have been happy with today's effort, otherwise he would have indicated that maybe keeping Trenners isn't such a bad idea, unless he didn't think any of the players today needed replacing.

 

After looking at the result my Pepperjack Shiraz all of a sudden tasted like an Aldi $2 red ( more lke paint strippeer ). 

31 minutes ago, JV7 said:

The fact you've even bought this up shows you know nothing... Ever heard of: 

Kennedy

Jack

Parker

Hannebery

Franklin 

Mcveigh 

Grundy

Pretty solid line up to add some youth too

Rather than us.... Jones & ??? Edit: Vince

Where's Rampe? Or don't you know who he is?

 

 

Edited August 27, 20168 yr by Bombay Airconditioning

2 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

After looking at the result my Pepperjack Shiraz all of a sudden tasted like an Aldi $2 red ( more lke paint strippeer ). 

Its the same wine,that's why,

1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Where's Rampe? Or don't you know who he is?

 

 

No I do but thought for arguments sake a 90 game player equates to a Tom Mcdonald so left him out... Probably add Nick Smith to the list though.. Just strengthens my point. Thanks. 

I'll bet youy Roos didn't see that one coming.(the loss)

Roosy was good in the final presser. Said it's important to not say something you regret to the players. Said the club knows they aren't a finals team yet and that today was a really clear lesson of that.

All class.

43 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Because we are playing so many inexperienced players today's loss was to be expected. 

Mills 

Heeney

Hewett

Aliir

Papley

Marsh

Naismith

X Richards

I continue to be amazed by the "arguments" you make on this site.

9 minutes ago, Moneider96 said:

''All about preparing for next year.''

Yeh right, players just couldn't be bothered postponing their holiday plans. 

 

 

In any case, winning would have been the best means of preparing for next year. The two are entirely compatible. 

Really crap attitude from the club, if true. Another example, amongst our players uncanny ability to perform good one week then crap the other (incidentally against bottom teams) that the culture isn't there yet.

6 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

After looking at the result my Pepperjack Shiraz all of a sudden tasted like an Aldi $2 red ( more lke paint strippeer ). 

WTF are you doing drinking Pepperjack ENYAW? It doesn't come in a cask.