This will get done but seems like a 12:00 + deal on Tuesday. Whoever blinks first

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Getting in Lewis hasn't helped the next year scenario. We suddenly look like a decent side, and if we get into the finals, that second-round pick is going to be even further back than where it is now.

The draft has been like the finals for the dees. I have looked forward to it every year for almost a decade. We normally have a top pick. This year we didn't and all of a sudden we land Jordan Lewis.

9 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

This will get done but seems like a 12:00 + deal on Tuesday. Whoever blinks first

you mean thursday?

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

you mean thursday?

Yeah sorry meant thursday

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Dear Essendon,

You still don't know what you injected Michael Hibberd with, stop being a bunch of pricks.

Yours sincerely,

Clint Bizkit

Except that everyone knows that EFC know what they were injected with, which is why they are still hiding the records  

2 hours ago, ENYAW said:

EFC aka drugcheats should get zilch for Hibberd and we should get compo for Marksham. We still are a sad club when nobody wants Dawes,Garland,Spencer and hopefully satin inc. takes Dunn.

Sorry, ENYAW.....can't see the logic train that equates nobody wanting a couple of our underperforming oldies, one of whom is injury ridden and can't get on the track, a ruckman who as far as I am aware the club wants to hold as back up for Max, and whatever you mean by satin inc. takes Dunn to us being a sad club.  Seems far more like a case of a sad ENYAW who can't be happy about a serious change of direction, upwards, of our club's standing in the eyes of the players in the competition as a whole.  

1 hour ago, Demon17 said:

I don't understand why Hibberd doesn't just take Essendon to court and have his contract terminated for the Bombers negligence and lack of Duty of Care to him as an employee.?  And seek the court to order his costs payable by Bombers while he's at it.

No brainer.

17.  I guess you don't understand the vagaries of our "legal system".  If Hibberd did take EFC to court etc etc as you mentioned, given EFC's penchant for obfuscation, it would possibly be heard in time for the 2019 trade season.  

I agree that he should but sadly it is impracticable.

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

And Essendon may regard that as a compliment, that they are tough.

According to Barret today Dodoro has reacted poorly to his assertion that Essendon is hard to deal with. Evidently Dodoro not thrilled with the reputation he's built for himself.

 

Is it true Pies are the same?

17 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

According to Barret today Dodoro has reacted poorly to his assertion that Essendon is hard to deal with. Evidently Dodoro not thrilled with the reputation he's built for himself.

 

Is it true Pies are the same?

He could rid himself of that reputation by accepting our 2017 2nd Round Pick.

11 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Our desire to use 2017 2nd means we have someone in mind around 29 this year and/or we don't want to waste an entire year of prospect analysis by JT and the recruiting team by having first pick at 57.  If we have to do 29 for Hibberd it should be possible to trade next years 2nd to one of the clubs who end up with multiple 2nds this year.

Also it helps us spread the age group of our kids, so they will likely develop at differing stages.  We don't want too many all under 22Yrs.

 

See what happens with the Hawks when all their guns are over 30 during the same seasons.  There comes a time when we need to spread our ages a bit.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Getting in Lewis hasn't helped the next year scenario. We suddenly look like a decent side, and if we get into the finals, that second-round pick is going to be even further back than where it is now.

I think we were looking like a decent side before we got Lewis...

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think we were looking like a decent side before we got Lewis...

I know,  those browngold colours put the vision off colour, don't they.

1 hour ago, Dappa Dan said:

According to Barret today Dodoro has reacted poorly to his assertion that Essendon is hard to deal with. Evidently Dodoro not thrilled with the reputation he's built for himself.

 

Is it true Pies are the same?

Essendon supporters seem pretty happy with Dodoro. That is all he should care about.

14 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Essendon supporters seem pretty happy with Dodoro. That is all he should care about.

Wait till the end of next year.......

I seriously hope we don't cave in, play hard ball, if they don't except next years 2nd round pick, then bad luck, let them keep Hibberd for another year. We have to use 3 picks in this draft and we have the bonus of picking up Lewis, keep pick 29.

1 hour ago, rjay said:

I think we were looking like a decent side before we got Lewis...

You can see the narrative the press are going to run with though, can't you? Sprouting things like 'Will Lewis lift Melbourne into the top 8'. They seem to be saying yes, but certain pockets of the media (if not all of it) clearly didn't think we'd make it next year without him.

Prior to Lewis coming on board, I would have been very surprised that if we'd been relatively injury-free that we wouldn't win 12-14 games. That would get us probably into 8th position.

But with Lewis, there's no doubting his experience in tight contests will help us and perhaps be the difference at least once, if not more next season.

If things go really well, it's not impossible to see us finishing on the cusp of the top 4. It all depends on how quickly our guys grow and develop. The Oliver's and the Petracca's in particular.

 

Edited October 18, 20168 yr by A F

11 hours ago, deefella said:

Tom Browne on ch 7 expect deal will get done end of trade week can't come quick enough 

To be fair, that's like me saying my mate Dave from down the pub expects the deal will get done.

There was a bit of talk around that Essendon wanted this years picks so they could package a few up and have a crack at O'meara

perhaps now that's not a factor they'll be more receptive to our 2017 pick, we need a deal breaker, because they will just wait this out and force our hand as it sits, we'd have to be willing to lose Hibberd to take that chance 

6 hours ago, Males said:

I seriously hope we don't cave in, play hard ball, if they don't except next years 2nd round pick, then bad luck, let them keep Hibberd for another year. We have to use 3 picks in this draft and we have the bonus of picking up Lewis, keep pick 29.

I think we want Hibberd more than we want any one of those 2nd round picks, it will be this years 2nd. Essendon have the cards

Edited October 18, 20168 yr by DominatrixTyson

The Age said negotiations for Essendon defender Michael Hibberd's move to Melbourne were not progressing, with the Demons insisting that the Bombers accept a second-round pick for next season rather than this year's second-round pick.

I don't think we're going to be the ones to blink first.

18 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

The Age said negotiations for Essendon defender Michael Hibberd's move to Melbourne were not progressing, with the Demons insisting that the Bombers accept a second-round pick for next season rather than this year's second-round pick.

I don't think we're going to be the ones to blink first.

I Like your confidence. I read the exact same thing and cant help think we will be blinking first. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the clock runs out on the Hibberd deal, can't we get him for nothing as he's able to leave the bombers as a free agent? If so, that changes who holds the cards, and the bombers should be the ones to blink.

(I also don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that sitting out a year of footy has lessened his value.)

4 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I Like your confidence. I read the exact same thing and cant help think we will be blinking first. 

I reckon we may play Russian roulette and have him go into the PSD.

Put a price on his head and have him declare he refuses to move interstate.  Essendon wont re-draft him, and after that he will need to get past Brisbane, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Carlton, Richmond & Collingwood

Edited October 18, 20168 yr by AngryAtCasey

2 minutes ago, bananas said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the clock runs out on the Hibberd deal, can't we get him for nothing as he's able to leave the bombers as a free agent? If so, that changes who holds the cards, and the bombers should be the ones to blink.

(I also don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that sitting out a year of footy has lessened his value.)

Not a free agent.

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Not a free agent.

Aye, but I thought I read somewhere (if it was on here, could easily have been inaccurate!) that any banned player could choose to leave the bombers as a free agent if they didn't want to go back.

Seems a bit rough to force players to go back to the club that screwed them over so badly.

Edited October 18, 20168 yr by bananas

Lloyd just said in trade radio the deal will get done today for this years 2nd rd pick... 

Could just be Lloyd being an Essendon man saying what he wants to happen.

Just now, bananas said:

Aye, but I thought I read somewhere (if it was on here, could easily have been inaccurate!) that any banned player could choose to leave the bombers as a free agent if they didn't want to go back.

If they feel like going through the rigmarole of court proceedings.  Far too late in the day for that now.